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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 12 2018 23:48 GMT
#522
I am sorry but what are you guys smoking? I am literally voting for someone i have pegged as mafia and i am being called out for it (regardless of my reasoning), just if i do vote for them, or if i dont. I think Kelsier is mafia. For Meapak i am mafia because i did not stick with my vote on Kelsier (which i gave reasoning for), and now i am mafia because i am voting for Kelsier (so i am sticking with it).

Why am i annoyed? Hmm.. idk, you fucking figure...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 12 2018 23:49 GMT
#523
On September 13 2018 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
whatever you are not getting majority on rels unless it is mafia, so take that into account, 100% truth.

There are still 8 people left my dude...

yeah 3 of those are mafia and i am not so 4-4 ends up in either kelsier being scum or lose.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 12 2018 23:50 GMT
#524
I am pretty close doing "my way or highway".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 12 2018 23:51 GMT
#525
So think about it, i am going to sleep now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 12 2018 23:56 GMT
#526
One more thing, i am sorry if i offended someone. It was not my intention.

I just get really angry when someone tells me i am scum because i did a thing X and then i am scum because i did not do thing X, and i even can't throw it onto their face because i don't think they are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 13 2018 00:01 GMT
#529
Kelsier top 1 mafia
Rels top 2 mafia
Damdred top 2 mafia

I picked Damdred over Rels for the reasons i have staed D2.

Yes, it would be totally logical for me to vote for Rels now.
You caught me, i was also roleblocker, RoL is the godfather and Rels is jsut vanilla mafia.
You can confirm by a cop check.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 13 2018 00:02 GMT
#530
I am sorry team i let you down.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 13 2018 00:03 GMT
#531
I somehow messed up with my logic between D2 and D3, like a bolt struck me, shit i should call kitaman and tell him to cancel this game from the database.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 13 2018 00:05 GMT
#532
I should just have sticked with Kelsier (town) over Damdred (town) so i should not have been seen as defending Vivax (town) into defending Rels (scum). Such a ploy i definitely needed to make happen so noone could catch me and Rels.

I am sorry Rels. I fucked up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 13 2018 00:11 GMT
#533
On September 13 2018 08:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2018 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry but what are you guys smoking? I am literally voting for someone i have pegged as mafia and i am being called out for it (regardless of my reasoning), just if i do vote for them, or if i dont. I think Kelsier is mafia. For Meapak i am mafia because i did not stick with my vote on Kelsier (which i gave reasoning for), and now i am mafia because i am voting for Kelsier (so i am sticking with it).

Why am i annoyed? Hmm.. idk, you fucking figure...

For people who aren't rayn, here's the difference.

D2, there was almost no consolidation, if rayn had felt this strongly Kelsier was scum, a townie could have put in the effort to try and make a Kelsier lynch happen, the stakes were also lower as it was not lylo, and there was less information to make a decision. Instead rayn switched to damdred (thus indicating he thinks damdred is scummier) but also names rels as someone he'd vote for (thus suggesting rels is scummier as well).

D3, we're at lylo, we already know rayn thinks rels is as scummy as damdred (who he voted for over kelsier) but instead of voting for rels (who he indicated he would have voted for if others wanted to) he goes back to kelsier. The issue is the prioritization is wrong for a townie. He already indicated D2 he thought rels was scummier than Kelsier during the whole damdred lynch. Now that there are several people who also want to lynch rels, a townie would be happy to see their read is finally getting pushed. Instead we have this quasi meltdown over the kelsier vote which ends up sounding like cornered mafia.

The logic between D2 and D3 does not add up.

You are an idiot. Nothing more, nothing less. Just an idiot.
I have no intention in discussing anything with you, unfortunately i think you are town.

I think you should change your perspective when making scumreads. We will see if i was right or not. I know you are not. "Good luck".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 13 2018 00:14 GMT
#534
ftr that was an indication i am not gonna waste time on this game anymore.
just fyi
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 11:37 GMT
#555
On September 14 2018 01:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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On September 13 2018 23:29 Qatol wrote:
Think of it this way: if you believe Meapak is town and think his roleblock claim is legit, then the town most likely loses with literally almost any other vote except in the situation where a single vote is placed on a mafia member, unless mafia supports a lynch on their own member.

It's not instant majority. We have time to discuss stuff.

I'm probably going to focus here.

Day 1
Kaley [3]: Qatol, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare, Rels

Day 2
Damdred [3]: Vivax, prplhz, raynpelikoneet

I know it is kind of an inactive game, but I imagine among this group the common denominator is scum. As an aside, I voted for him after reading that post I quoted but before I even knew he also ended up being the common denominator on 2 bad lynches.

Then tell me what were the "good lynches" i should have participated in?

Also your argument is easily debunked by the following:
On September 09 2018 07:18 kitaman27 wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count



Kaley [3]: Qatol, raynpelikoneet, Rels
Koshi [1]: Sergiovan
raynpelikoneet [1]: Kaley
Vivax [1]: KelsierSC
Holyflare [1]: Koshi
RebirthOfLeGenD [1]: Vivax
Qatol [1]: Koshi, Holyflare

Not Voting [4]: Meapak_Ziphh, RebirthOfLeGenD, Damdred, prplhz

On September 12 2018 07:47 kitaman27 wrote:

Day 2 Vote Count



Damdred [3]: Vivax, prplhz, raynpelikoneet
Vivax [2]: Qatol, Sergiovan
Qatol [1]: Rels
Rels [1]: Meapak_Ziphh

Not Voting [3]: RebirthOfLeGendD, Damdred, KelsierSC

I greened the confirmed townies who weren't lynched on D1 and D2, but were voted (also you because i assume you consider or pretend to consider yourself as town). For your argument to make any sense at all there must be a mafia player i am "protecting" (aka voting for someone to lynch them over my teammate), otherwise the "common nominator" theory doesn't make any sense since i don't really have to stick my neck out as mafia. We can clearly see that is not the case here, because on D1 i could have voted maybe 5 different people over Kaley to not stick my neck out (not even counting the inactives), and on D2 the only other viable wagon to get lynched was Vivax (who was town) at the time i voted for Damdred.

So like... your theory does not hold any water, i don't really know what your theory is to be exact because you just took two lynches and my name which was on both and called me mafia for it. Pro tip, just because someone voted for someone doesn't make them mafia, and you have never explained why me voting for anyone makes me mafia.

I don't really care to argue about things like this because there is no argument at all. Idk, this isn't as bad as Meapak's argument where he just builds his own world and accuses me while everything i have said and done contradicts the world he has created.... That's like.. idk delusional lol.

I actually want to know why Qatol, while being in the thread when Meapak was posting his bs didn't care AT ALL about cutting that shit off. Literally, almost every single thing he posted about me on page 24-26 is factually incorrect or results in some unbelieveable way into "strengthening" his self-created narrative that doesn't even make any sense at all if you have read any of my posts.

Also why is his case on rels good? Because i don't really think it is good at all. There are a lot of huge problems in that case but i will let Rels answer him and not give him answers.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 14:41 GMT
#557
:D :D :D
this guy...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 14:42 GMT
#558
Maybe Meapak is just mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 14:53 GMT
#559
On September 14 2018 22:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On September 13 2018 23:42 prplhz wrote:
It would just be easier if KelsierSC is scum than if Qatol is scum.

I don't understand why Kelsier is doing the whole "whatever I give up" thing." I have never read that play as frustrated town. Basically his entire case on Qatol is based around the NKs which is honestly just speculation.

True.
I mean Vivax was most likely killed since he was essentially confirmed town. Vivax hadn't even pushed Qatol or been active in the two irl days prior to getting killed so I have a hard time believing this speculation that he was killed bc he was onto something big. Like read Vivax's filter, he does not come off as someone who is gunning to kill Qatol. If we're gonna speculate on the NKs I find it a much higher chance it was bc he was quasi confirmed due to the RB claim.

So you think Vivax was killed because he was confirmed town due to being roleblocked, except that your top 2 scumread was the only one who even entertained the thought, and you are essentially claiming that "rayn pushed the Vivax is confirmed town bcz of roleblock (which noone even believed", then rayn decided that "oh shit my tem needs to kill Vivax because he is confirmed town (which again noone in the game believed)", then you discount everything Kelsier said about Vivax while you don't believe it and still call me mafia because of something that doesn't make any sense at all in any world.
I don't think Kelsier is scum bc it would be an odd play for rayn to be bussing him this hard at lylo but I just don't find the Qatol case convincing for a lylo lynch.

The only reason you don't think Kelsier is scum is because i am scum which i have to be because Rels is scum. So there is that, that's incredibly idiotic. The individual "case" on me you did is already debunked because i don't need to even say anything about it since anyone who is reading the thread can tell your foundation of the case is just 100% false.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 14:57 GMT
#560
Like you literally can't come into the thread and say i am 90% mafia JUST because i missed a vote in a voting thread somewhere (which is what you are saying) when you yourself missed a vote RIGHT ABOVE MINE, and discount THAT vote and use that (incorrect) narrative to call me mafia (when i literally proved you wrong with a fucking picture of the voting thread.

And that is a fact.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 14:57 GMT
#561
well you can but that just makes you an idiot or mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 15:00 GMT
#562
On September 14 2018 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2018 22:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I mean Vivax was most likely killed since he was essentially confirmed town. Vivax hadn't even pushed Qatol or been active in the two irl days prior to getting killed so I have a hard time believing this speculation that he was killed bc he was onto something big. Like read Vivax's filter, he does not come off as someone who is gunning to kill Qatol. If we're gonna speculate on the NKs I find it a much higher chance it was bc he was quasi confirmed due to the RB claim.

So you think Vivax was killed because he was confirmed town due to being roleblocked, except that your top 2 scumread was the only one who even entertained the thought, and you are essentially claiming that "rayn pushed the Vivax is confirmed town bcz of roleblock (which noone even believed", then rayn decided that "oh shit my tem needs to kill Vivax because he is confirmed town (which again noone in the game believed)", then you discount everything Kelsier said about Vivax while you don't believe it and still call me mafia because of something that doesn't make any sense at all in any world.

Can anyone understand how incredibly stupid this is especially since Vivax was the second most voted wagon D2?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 16:27 GMT
#565
What is your point?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 14 2018 16:30 GMT
#568
On September 15 2018 01:29 Sergiovan wrote:
The above two vote counts show that we haven’t had a true wagon emerge on scum this whole game, the most votes any possible scum has had at EOD is one.

Based on that my vote analysis is lacking at best. There was no impetus for any scum member to vote one way or another during d1 or d2.

There is also no impetus for scum to vote any particular way now, d3 with each wagon having less than or equal to two votes. We need to consolidate our votes on only two targets for this lynch so that we actually have a chance of winning.

yes, it is exactly what i am saying so how are you feeling on Meapak?
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