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On September 12 2018 04:29 Sergiovan wrote:
Damdred: I would be content with a Damdred lynch. He appeared in the thread promised to be useful and then hasn’t reappeared.
On his own he is my third in line for the lynch.
Though the Prplhz sheep of Vivax makes me uncomfortable I still think Damdred looks scummy on his own.
So Vivax is voting for Damdred and you are voting for Vivax.
However, you would be comfortable with a Damdred. That is if it weren't for the fact that now I am voting for him.
Shouldn't the vote of your biggest scum read deter you more than my vote?
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EBWOP However, you would be comfortable with a Damdred lynch.
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On September 12 2018 04:46 Sergiovan wrote:
Prplhz: how do you feel about Meapak’s entrance into the thread?
I like his town read on me. Bonus points.
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On September 12 2018 04:55 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2018 01:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Because I can see the scenario where Koshi is lynched either for role because he scum reads qatol and it makes hf/sergio look bad in the process. But then HF dies unexpectedly and now Qatol is kind of fucked.
If this looks like a sheep and a massive contradiction to what i've been saying , that's because it is.
##Vote: Qatol As odd as it is to say considering you wound up voting for me, thank you. This is the post I was looking for, though I disagree with the result (as I still don't think HF's argument made any sense and I still don't think Koshi found me scummy when he died). I'm taking this as a strong statement of "fed up townie who doesn't know what to think after defending himself for 2 pages." Show nested quote +On September 12 2018 04:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Ok so we have about 19 different people who have votes on them, Rels, damdred,vivax, me,qatol, sergio ...anyone else?
Just consolidate votes because right now mafia just vote on whichever rando target isnt them and this lynch is a crap shoot.
HF and Koshi both had Qatol as scum, looking at the night kills koshi is a great one for qatol to make but he didnt count on hf being shot. it's a genuinely solid lynch and should be a good one.
The AFK lynch is a crap shoot and any votes there are bad and make you instantly scummy, any "reason" for rels or damdred or RoL or prpl at this point is sort shitty.
You can pick another person if you legitimately make a good case on them, fuck you can think rayn is right and vote me I wont give a shit just dont vote on an AFK and peace out. This is also true, and was exactly what I was thinking getting to this point. 1-2 votes on a bunch of different people is ridiculously easy for the mafia to manipulate. As I posted earlier, lynching an inactive is just silly. That includes Damdred. If he doesn't post by this time day 3, I'm fine with a lynch on him. Until then, we have no idea why he didn't come back and his disappearance says nothing to us about whether or not he's mafia. Of the people with votes right now, I would most prefer a lynch of Vivax. I could live with a Rels lynch. I'm also not comfortable with how heavily prplhz has been defending/sheeping Vivax all game (post 266, post 291, post 355). He said: Show nested quote +On September 11 2018 05:20 prplhz wrote:
Generally I find some people who
1) Are good at finding scum
2) Are town
And then I sheep them. That's really how I do. I rarely do a lot of analysis because I'm really not very good at it. But I wrote a few points on you that I myself find to be something I would expect more from scum. So prplhz decided to latch onto Vivax? What exactly makes you (prplhz) think Vivax is town? What makes you think he's good at finding scum?
I already thought he was town yesterday for pushing against the Kaley lynch with some decent arguments. I don't know if he's great at finding scum, I agree with him on Damdred and I find it more likely we'll lynch Damdred over you today.
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Like, his thoughts on Damdred's empty promise are like my own. I also think that Damdred is usually lazy on D1 but shows up and interacts and does something on D2.
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On September 12 2018 05:40 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2018 05:08 prplhz wrote:On September 12 2018 04:55 Qatol wrote:On September 12 2018 01:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Because I can see the scenario where Koshi is lynched either for role because he scum reads qatol and it makes hf/sergio look bad in the process. But then HF dies unexpectedly and now Qatol is kind of fucked.
If this looks like a sheep and a massive contradiction to what i've been saying , that's because it is.
##Vote: Qatol As odd as it is to say considering you wound up voting for me, thank you. This is the post I was looking for, though I disagree with the result (as I still don't think HF's argument made any sense and I still don't think Koshi found me scummy when he died). I'm taking this as a strong statement of "fed up townie who doesn't know what to think after defending himself for 2 pages." On September 12 2018 04:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Ok so we have about 19 different people who have votes on them, Rels, damdred,vivax, me,qatol, sergio ...anyone else?
Just consolidate votes because right now mafia just vote on whichever rando target isnt them and this lynch is a crap shoot.
HF and Koshi both had Qatol as scum, looking at the night kills koshi is a great one for qatol to make but he didnt count on hf being shot. it's a genuinely solid lynch and should be a good one.
The AFK lynch is a crap shoot and any votes there are bad and make you instantly scummy, any "reason" for rels or damdred or RoL or prpl at this point is sort shitty.
You can pick another person if you legitimately make a good case on them, fuck you can think rayn is right and vote me I wont give a shit just dont vote on an AFK and peace out. This is also true, and was exactly what I was thinking getting to this point. 1-2 votes on a bunch of different people is ridiculously easy for the mafia to manipulate. As I posted earlier, lynching an inactive is just silly. That includes Damdred. If he doesn't post by this time day 3, I'm fine with a lynch on him. Until then, we have no idea why he didn't come back and his disappearance says nothing to us about whether or not he's mafia. Of the people with votes right now, I would most prefer a lynch of Vivax. I could live with a Rels lynch. I'm also not comfortable with how heavily prplhz has been defending/sheeping Vivax all game (post 266, post 291, post 355). He said: On September 11 2018 05:20 prplhz wrote:
Generally I find some people who
1) Are good at finding scum
2) Are town
And then I sheep them. That's really how I do. I rarely do a lot of analysis because I'm really not very good at it. But I wrote a few points on you that I myself find to be something I would expect more from scum. So prplhz decided to latch onto Vivax? What exactly makes you (prplhz) think Vivax is town? What makes you think he's good at finding scum? I already thought he was town yesterday for pushing against the Kaley lynch with some decent arguments. I don't know if he's great at finding scum, I agree with him on Damdred and I find it more likely we'll lynch Damdred over you today. Which push against the Kaley lynch? Which arguments? The ones he later admitted were part of "a crappy feels-read?" Or maybe this one? Show nested quote +On September 09 2018 01:16 Vivax wrote:On September 08 2018 23:06 Rels wrote:On September 08 2018 03:23 Vivax wrote:
I don't see how anyone could think that kaley is anything but a smurf. why ? Yea it isn't a smurf after reading through the profile. And it sure as hell isn't a she. I was sure it was a new acc just for this game, meh. I was wrong. But the rapping thing isn't something exclusive to this game. It's just his hobby. I don't want to vote him though. There's too many shitty votes on kaley floating about, some policy like rayn, some for weird analysis of the rap like from Qatol. And you for no reason. If that's the case, why are you pushing for what is effectively a policy lynch on damdred now? Note that Vivax called rayn's policy vote a "shitty vote" in the post I quoted.
Yes, that one.
I don't really know if I get your policy lynch point, but I don't think Damdred is a policy lynch.
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On September 12 2018 07:51 Qatol wrote:
Is anyone else active right now? I'm still not comfortable lynching damdred. I still think this is basically a policy lynch and the math isn't in support of it.
What math?
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On September 12 2018 06:29 Sergiovan wrote:
Prplhz I still want your response to my Vivax case.
I sort of get it. If Vivax thinks Kaley is town, Vivax should think that all Kaley's actions are geniune. He says he thinks Kaley is town, but that Kaley's push on raynpelikoneet isn't genuine. It's a fair point actually.
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Wait a minute here
Is Holyflare the best player on the site?
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On September 11 2018 23:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Nothing is happening in D2, literally no one is posting.
The only thing I have to work with is the Koshi night kill so I posted my thoughts on it, even asking for people to link me posts where koshi hinted at blue and I get called mafia and people saying "what the heck is this"
I am voting sergio at the start of the day because of the Koshi nightkill and my own thoughts on D1. I still have vivax as scum but im using the new information for my vote.
However as there hasn't been anything contributed this day and we have a bunch of AFK's i would rather lynch one of those NOW. I haven't unvoted sergio yet.
Here he says that he is voting for Sergovian but he's down with lynching into some AFK people semi randomly.
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On September 12 2018 00:40 KelsierSC wrote:
I could lynch anyone apart from you and rayn.
Here he says kind of the same, he'll lynch anyone except "you" (Qatol) and raynpelikoneet.
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On September 13 2018 16:25 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote:
Qatol so far feels like he's furthering scum agenda and both NKs point heavily towards him. Koshi loved me for pointing out that I didn't like the way he was going after kaley, and HF also was rather sure he was mafia. Both died, and Qatols followup is to try and get a lynch on me going regardless. From a strategic perspective, both NKs are bad for me, he doesn't take that into account.
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.
Additionally, his confidence feels fake to me so far. I haven't been able to be confident about my reads and straightforward about what I want to do not cause I am mafia, but cause we had a lot of inactives for most of the game and that tells me that I have to be careful about whom I accuse since I can never exclude that mafia simply didn't post. It feels wrong to me to just look at the actives and find reasons to scumread them under these circumstances. But Qatol doesn't. Day 1 he easily finds reasons to vote off kaley, and D2 he easily sees it as an easy reason to go after me that I display this type of hesitance.
But as an active poster, I don't believe Qatol takes priority before Damdred, even though I see him working against me until the point he is lynched, should he not decide to let his scumread fall (which isn't implying that it would be a reason for me to retract my own read on him). I'm thinking why vivax was killed, he was town read by some and scum read by some, however his major scum read after damdred was Qatol and only activity was saving him. Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 08:26 Qatol wrote:On September 13 2018 08:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Vivax unfortunately doesn't give us much except for a scum read on Qatol. I'm torn between thinking he was killed for the rb claim or killed bc he had by far the most reasonable points against qatol. Nevertheless, I'm pretty comfortable I'm on the right track with at least my Rels read and rayn's insta vote on Kelsier looks fairly terrible. What "most reasonable points" against me? This is the type of post that gets everyone confused later (and mirrors the posts made about HF and Koshi, which lack real substance). Please point to a specific post if you're going to say this. Otherwise, it just turns into the same game of misguided telephone I've spent most of the game trying to defuse. Are you talking about post 333? As far as your Rels read goes, as I stated before, I'm inclined to agree. Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 07:05 Qatol wrote:On September 13 2018 06:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 13 2018 06:53 Qatol wrote:
rayn and meapak, I think you've reached the point of diminishing returns. Is either of you seriously pushing for the other as the lynch target for day 3 anyways? Remember, we have to coordinate our votes or the town loses.
On a side note, rayn, could you please call him prplhz and not purplehaze? It's hard to search your filter for your posts on him. Who's the scum team Qatol? If it's not Rels/Rayn/Sergio(vivax) then who have you got? I would actually be pretty comfortable lynching rayn at this point but I think rels is a much better option. I like prplhz for mafia. Your case on rels makes sense to me. I'm honestly not sure about the third one; this is where I had vivax. I think they have someone who noticed Koshi blueslipping, so it would have to be someone relatively perceptive. Rayn meets that criteria (and honestly, I think the town has already lost if rayn is red). These quotes show he is setting himself up to lynch whatever AFK is town and win, which is at odds with his previous approach to not lynching AFK's. These reason and night kill logic almost confirm qatol as mafia ##Vote: Qatol
Now suddenly he wants to lynch Qatol. Even though Qatol was one of the only two people he didn't want to lynch before and even though the reasonable (setting himself up to lynch semi-arbitrarily into AFK people) was the exact same thing as KelsierSC was doing.
Additionally, KelsierSC scumreads Qatol for the N1 kill on Koshi which really doesn't point to anyone.
I guess this is sort of what raynpelikoneet already complained about but I'm slow.
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Eh, whatever. Maybe we can lynch Qatol.
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It would just be easier if KelsierSC is scum than if Qatol is scum.
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On September 14 2018 01:06 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Fuck you are so fucking annoying. I am just going to throw the fucking game. yeah anyone who says this and just wants to sew discord and chaos. ##vote Raynpelikoneet"
Seems like a rather brute and unsubtle manner to push a mafia agenda?
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On September 15 2018 01:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You madea case on him... It was good and accurateand he didn't respond towards it like he should if he is town, he just said he will fuck off.
Shameless pocketing,... will I fall for it before going out?
I think I just might.
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Will try to phonepost.
KelsierSC or bust.
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I'm really not here. I really am not.
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I can't change vote because, in spite of how it may appear, I'm not here.
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EPT
