[M]Chill Hop Mafia

On June 26 2018 10:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:

there is nothing that says there is a seer in the game.

On June 26 2018 10:49 Tictock wrote:


I'm not sure I saw anything in Calix's post that made the assumption that Gemma-Reg is town, but I overall agree with rayn here.

Calix's switch in stance from "lets rando vote someone for lol's" to "thats not AI, don't vote" seemed sudden to me. Especially when my suggestion to pile votes on Reg had nothing to do with alignment. I feel slightly hypocritical here though, kus I switched my own stance of "I don't wanna vote pointlessly" to off the cuff voting someone just kus they did something I think is stupid.

Actually maybe I do see what you mean here Rayn, there is no way Calix should be able to make any assumption about when Reg prepared that post. PM's went out an hour before the game started so there was plenty of time to decide to do something like that after getting a role, and there should be no real way to tell when someone makes that call.

Anyways, I'll optimistically call Rayn and Mocsta town here.

On June 26 2018 11:01 Tictock wrote:


God no, I was talking about Calix's post here. or well, here

On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:
This question caught me off guard.
If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia.

Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator.

Therefore, I find this exchange odd.

Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask.
But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar.

On June 26 2018 11:34 Mocsta wrote:
i dont understand how it leads to anything.
If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself.
If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS.

Dead question.

Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare.
Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content.

Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine.
On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF.

My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see.

On June 26 2018 11:45 Conversion wrote:


I've done nothing but spam lynch Holyflare, so why am I townie to you?

On June 26 2018 12:33 Regfan wrote:

Hum. I'd like you to run through this a little more for me please, how it's played out is me mentioning a few of my concerns re; Mocsta to Rayn given he'd know him better than I would and asking if the concerns I have are playstyle based or not and wanting to know his reads there. Then having Mocsta ask me to elaborate on the concerns/what I'm talking about ther leading towards me making the post linking his earlier ones, so this "Seemed out of place" thing is kind of ????

- R

On June 26 2018 16:06 Calix wrote:


Because I can. But I've changed my mind.

##Vote: CopCake

Two reasons for this:

1) Asks stupid questions. This is self-explanatory. She hasn't asked anything that would actually advance the game forward. But they are questions you make when you want to LOOK like you're doing things.

2) Makes excuses for way too many players in way too short a time period which she is probably doing because she has TMI and knows that the players are being genuine.

I'll try and explain the part that first made me suspicious. The several posts she made where she claimed Regfan's post was a joke would seemingly imply that Regfan's post isn't AI (since it's just a joke). But then she says this:



This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here.

A lot of her posts either make excuses for players or town-read them a bit too easily for my liking. I think it's because she knows they're town and thus KNOWS they're genuine. Here are some examples of where I got this impression:

+ Show Spoiler +




I also hated these posts. We have this super-analytical start to the game, CopCake is in the thread as all this stuff is going down, and all she really wants to do is talk about inactives and defend people.

In conclusion, CopCake's early game and her attempts to hide how she isn't pushing the game forward is more likely to come from mafia than town.

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In other news, I've only skim-read the thread and haven't filtered anyone but CopCake. I didn't understand raynpelikoneet's wall-posts on me or how anything he said makes me scummy, not gonna lie.

Mocsta seems townie to me but the main reason I say this is because he's posting differently from his last game (where he was mafia). His tone seems more natural and carefree to me and I don't get the impression he's pushing any kind of agenda.

I haven't properly read the cases put forth by HF, Regfan, Mocsta, rayn, whatever, so no opinion on those until I reread.

On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.

On June 26 2018 19:14 Calix wrote:


Didn't HF just say that TT has a scummy tone and forced opening posts? I don't find it persuasive but I also can see how he might conclude that as town.

And he just recently explained to Mocsta that 'the phrasing TT uses feels overly wordy for the little points he is making and it feels un-TT-like' so what does he have left to explain in your opinion?

On June 26 2018 19:19 Calix wrote:


Your assumption is incorrect. I state in that very post you quoted that I think it's NAI.

On June 26 2018 19:25 Calix wrote:


So a meta/ expectation read. Sure.

Precisely how strong are your other town reads, may I just ask? I don't think TT is 'super town' myself; there just isn't enough evidence to have a read THAT strong in my opinion. So I would like to know how you have that much confidence since I'm not getting the same strong town vibes from people.

I'm also going to divert the topic onto something more general since I don't know you very well: How do you play? How many games have you played? When was the last time you actually played and specifically when you played with HF? I'm assuming you're an old-timer who was dragged back from the Stone Age myself

On June 27 2018 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Maybe he is a stalker? :o
Or maybe i have just talked with him on messenger.
Who knows?

On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:


I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy.

I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now.

I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax.

I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too.

Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants.

Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.

On June 27 2018 02:35 Calix wrote:


No, I was calling you mafia for that within the context of when you posted about the inactives while a bunch of other shit was going down.

Meanwhile I'm talking about inactives because few of the active people look like good D1 lynch candidates. Okay yeah, I could #yolo vote Regfan or HF but that would be dumb since they'll actually play and respond to accusations and the like.

Also I'm going to ask you why you think HF is townish now. You were scum-reading him, then you said you felt better about him but you never really explained why or what posts made you conclude that.

On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.

On June 26 2018 16:06 Calix wrote:


Because I can. But I've changed my mind.

##Vote: CopCake

Two reasons for this:

1) Asks stupid questions. This is self-explanatory. She hasn't asked anything that would actually advance the game forward. But they are questions you make when you want to LOOK like you're doing things.

2) Makes excuses for way too many players in way too short a time period which she is probably doing because she has TMI and knows that the players are being genuine.

I'll try and explain the part that first made me suspicious. The several posts she made where she claimed Regfan's post was a joke would seemingly imply that Regfan's post isn't AI (since it's just a joke). But then she says this:



This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here.

A lot of her posts either make excuses for players or town-read them a bit too easily for my liking. I think it's because she knows they're town and thus KNOWS they're genuine. Here are some examples of where I got this impression:

+ Show Spoiler +




I also hated these posts. We have this super-analytical start to the game, CopCake is in the thread as all this stuff is going down, and all she really wants to do is talk about inactives and defend people.

In conclusion, CopCake's early game and her attempts to hide how she isn't pushing the game forward is more likely to come from mafia than town.

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In other news, I've only skim-read the thread and haven't filtered anyone but CopCake. I didn't understand raynpelikoneet's wall-posts on me or how anything he said makes me scummy, not gonna lie.

Mocsta seems townie to me but the main reason I say this is because he's posting differently from his last game (where he was mafia). His tone seems more natural and carefree to me and I don't get the impression he's pushing any kind of agenda.

I haven't properly read the cases put forth by HF, Regfan, Mocsta, rayn, whatever, so no opinion on those until I reread.

On June 26 2018 22:09 Calix wrote:


Did this guy who has literally never seen me play before just say that me being 'aggressive' is out of character? JFC.

If I'm your scum-read then why aren't you trying to talk TO me here? I'm literally right here in the thread with you and you don't seem to give a shit.

On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote:


Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious.

On June 26 2018 22:57 Calix wrote:


How would I know CopCake is 'confusing'? I have no knowledge of her play.

With this in mind, I can't see how you concluded what you did. Especially the part about me caring how I look.

On June 27 2018 12:50 Tictock wrote:
I am removing Mocsta from my town pool, until further notice.

That is all.

On June 27 2018 13:56 Mocsta wrote:
Firstly, I believe I may have called you out first, possibly even on the same page as Calix "case".

Secondly, I am not stating Calix is blatantly copying me or thread sentiment; however, if she did, thats more likely to be a town tell than mafia.
I am saying she is echoing thread sentiment with her own twist - which is so often a mafia thing to do, simply because it works.

Lastly, Calix argued the CopCake read quite vigorously, and talks about OMGUS, which leads to "tunneled"
I find that one of the key differences between how mafia and town walk away from tunneled reads is that:
mafia are focused on "perception/looking good" so will ensure things are said that look good superficially. Everything is clean and quoteable for future reference.
Town on the otherhand are a mess. You have someone that has focused so much energy on one outcome that the rest of the game is almost a non-entity and thus are stuck, and have none of the quotable references to walk out looking good.

For me, Calix says she is stuck, but is ensuring that this position is transparent in the thread.
That to me is pretty much the most mafia-sided mindset I have seen from anyone all game, which is a large chunk of why my vote is cast that way.

On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.

I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.

Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.

Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).

I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now.

On June 27 2018 14:04 Tictock wrote:
@Cake

I will look into your case either as I go to bed, or when I get up in the morning.

But I want you to imagine if you thought there was even like a 70% chance Rayn was mafia, but you really weren't sure. Would you feel like the best lynch D1 would be Rayn?

This is an obvious appeal to emotion, but I think that is the best way to explain to you where I am sitting on Calix atm.

On June 27 2018 14:15 Tictock wrote:


Wait that would have made a difference to you?

My point was that I'd put Calix, Rayn, and HF as a similar calibure of player, actually I have that sense about Regfan as well.

I don't think one day of discussion is sufficient to determine their alignment.

On June 27 2018 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Going to enjoy more sun. I will put it in my brain to check when watching soccer.

On June 27 2018 22:41 Calix wrote:


Talking with you is a waste of time then. You don't assess what I'm saying, only how what I say makes you feel.

P.S: That "if it's not X player it must be Y" association is terrible and you should never make those sorts of reads ever.

On June 27 2018 23:48 Regfan wrote:
This is more or less where we're at as a hydra, btw.

Regfan
Mocsta
Holyflare
Calix
raynpelikoneet
CopCake

TheSlenderMan
boxerfred
Conversion
Ticktock

Vivax
Koshi
ShoCkeyy

We wouldn't lynch anyone in the top tier right now and we think they're all town with varying levels of confidence. We'd both bet the game on Mocsta being town, and I don't think we're very doubtful of anyone in that grouping being town.

The second lot are question marks but probably not people we would lynch today when it comes down it, unless we couldn't get anyone in the bottom grouping, and the bottom grouping are people we scumread to some degree, although I'm somewhat uncomfortable voting Vivax at this point given Koshi's treatment of him. I feel really conflicted about all of my scumreads which isn't particularly good when it's supposed to be my job to take care of that side of things but I'm in the middle of a nervous breakdown IRL so I'm just going to blame that.

-G

On June 27 2018 23:36 Calix wrote:


Well duh. People change as they get older so why would I put THAT much stock into meta from...whenever you used to play? I know I'm quite different from when I first started playing and that wasn't that long ago. I used to be extremely aggressive and very rarely reconsidered my reads.

I don't see how this question will help you understand me that well but sure. I'd shoot one of the AFKs since they're not giving town any information to begin with and it saves us from wasting a lynch on those people. Because threatening to lynch someone who posts is better than trying to pressure someone who will not post since new information is revealed and reads can develop.

Then if the person being pressured makes it clear they are town within those 48 hours then you can switch votes to an inactive player without losing too much if that inactive person is town.

If, during that time, you think that townies are the only people being pressured all day then you can look at the people who have been skirting by, not sticking their necks out, pretending to do more than they have, etc, and push them to the surface instead of defaulting to an inactive player. Because mafia are usually the people who are 'there' but not doing too much to solve the game or who have really unmemorable filters or whatnot.

I'd say what I've just written here is how I do things in most games. You shouldn't take it as AI or anything.

On June 28 2018 01:34 Vivax wrote:
Mocsta is totally mafia btw

On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:

Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.

On June 28 2018 03:03 Tictock wrote:


I take back what I said about you earlier in the game Gamma (Gemma?)

We can be friends.

On June 28 2018 04:58 Calix wrote:


Have you ever considered the RADICAL world where Rayn/ Calix is TvT?

Fucking insane, I know.

On June 28 2018 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like if calix is town why am i mafia?

On June 28 2018 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what was your read on me after?

On June 28 2018 05:09 Tictock wrote:


You have successfully been introduced to TL Mafia.

I suggest you run far far away, this is definitely representative of most of the games here. I'm regretting my own choices right now.

On June 28 2018 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mhm..

On June 28 2018 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
holyflare.
i am like 80% sure calix is mafia.
how sure you are in that tt is mafia?

On June 28 2018 05:29 Calix wrote:


Did you actually find his 'analysis' convincing?

Because this is a really terrible reason to town-read someone.

On June 28 2018 05:40 Calix wrote:


That makes zero sense.

On June 28 2018 05:47 Vivax wrote:


All the proof you need for this man to be town tbh

On June 28 2018 05:58 Vivax wrote:


cops bf?

On June 27 2018 00:56 Vivax wrote:
Very caustic, sheepable case on cop too.

I'd agree on calix being town here.

On June 27 2018 02:45 Vivax wrote:
I'll go with mocsta/cop/tbd for now.

Mocsta cause his reaction to HF countering him felt a lot like kneejerk and cause of the closet psychologist stuff. Cop for reasons said.

On June 27 2018 17:33 Vivax wrote:
There's a reasonable chance HF and rayn are mafia this game cause reasons. You should sheep this ironclad case.

On June 27 2018 21:31 Vivax wrote:
I've actually been fairly susp. of conv. all day btw. But he's been a good banter.

On June 27 2018 23:44 Vivax wrote:
I didn't call regfan mafia for pretty much the same reasons you didn't Koshi. At the same time it isn't a tsunami of words a la noobking.

Don't think Calix is mafia here but I will always lynch that if the majority thinks that so no point thinking too much about he alignment.

HF is purely a wild guess.

I think shockey is onto something with TT tho, nothing to do with his unlynchable shit for me though.

On June 28 2018 06:50 Calix wrote:


I'm spamming "lynch ShoCkeyy" because the current viable alternatives are myself (obvtown) and TT (another obvtown) and nobody seems to want you dead for some fucking reason and it's annoying me.

Why do you need HF's consent to vote for me? Oh right, you know I'm town and you don't want to take the blame for putting me in the lead for votes.

On June 28 2018 06:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:


My scum reads were more towards TT, not Calix, Calix joined when I mentioned their name, started defending TT non stop, and still hasn't stopped saying I'm mafia... Like how much value is that really adding to the thread. It just seems super desperate.

On June 28 2018 06:59 Calix wrote:


Why don't you read my filter and find out before asking me? You keep asking me all these random questions. They never seem to go anywhere or mean anything and I get the impression I could tell you to go fuck yourself and I'd get the same response from you. You haven't changed your read on me AT ALL because of these questions. I have zero idea how they help you read me better.

So why should I bother?

I also hate your TT vote. It'd be really nice if HF would vote for ShoCkeyy instead of letting this super obvious townie die.

On June 28 2018 07:03 Calix wrote:


So your questions are pointless then. Because you don't give a single fuck that I am not answering.

That's pretty suspect TBH. Because that means you've been asking all these random questions without caring about the answers.

On June 28 2018 07:12 Mocsta wrote:
#971
he is first vote on shockeyy....

anyways, fuck you all for ignoring me

##Vote; Shockeyy

On June 28 2018 07:19 Mocsta wrote:
fuck it

im probably never going ot catch up on this game now

I will vote the unturned stone

##Vote: Koshi

I dont particuarly care for the filter, and im concerned with the hammer vote

On June 28 2018 07:38 Calix wrote:


Because he only has one vote on him whereas ShoCkeyy has like, 3 and TT has 4.

So yeah, you are lynching TT right now.

And I'm not moving my vote to Koshi when ShoCkeyy is right here!

On June 28 2018 07:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm.

Filter dive rayn - Theres a couple odditities in his play, but maybe IRL shit. Like, I just dont think he can be that passionate against calix/regfan etc as mafia. Theres a lot of conviction in his posts that I think cannot be faked.

Filter dive tictock - Im still not seeing why anyone thinks he is scum. I look at his wagon and see pretty much town (if you treat the shockeyy mafia stuff as a dumbtell)

Koshi is probably a crap shoot. I prob more want to lynch him out of spite than I think he is mafia

Calix i think is town. #1004 is just something i dont expect mafia to say, but i see town do it all the time. its just a genuine venting of frustration

this leaves my voting block to shockeyy, boxer fred, vivax
Will filter those guys now

##unvote
Who knows, maybe this is a bizarre game where 2 of the scum team are AFK, and vivax is actually by himself lol

On June 28 2018 08:21 Calix wrote:


Scummy "told you so" kind of post when you didn't even do anything.

On June 28 2018 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
If you think ticktock is mafia copcake then you have to explain why as mafia he doesn't vote boxerfred or shockeyy to save himself until it's too late.

On June 28 2018 08:33 Holyflare wrote:


This does not answer my question. Why does he let himself almost die as mafia?

Why does he not vote to save himself?

On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R

On June 28 2018 10:52 Tictock wrote:


Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that.

I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did.

I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia.

Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town.

On June 28 2018 11:20 Mocsta wrote:
Hi CopCake,

Not sure about anyone trying to be town leader,
but I am curious if you have updated thoughts on Rayn, in particular given there are several leaning scum on him.

Apologies if you have addressed some of this already.

On June 28 2018 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
Thanks,

I'm glad that you mentioned the AFK, cos he did the same thing last time i played scum with him too. Popped in every so and so, and just AFK rest of cycle. He may have mentioned at one point it related to fatigue from rolling scum multiple times in a row, but meh, the impression lasted with me. (a bit like tictock).

I suppose my only comment to above is that I dont know how much it means for him to read your other games BECAUSE of his personal connection with you. As mafia, he may subconsciously feel pressure to put some "science" behind the read; instead of saying, "gut feel". But i dont view this strongly, as it could equally apply to town not wanting to be "bamboozled". Also the way he injected into the thread I think was townish. So meh,.

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What do you make of the sudden change in the hydra?
I assume you know at least of them? Is this behaviour plausible?
Like, as scum, why would you kick up a hissy fit if you just got a mislynch on a lurker?

On June 28 2018 12:05 Mocsta wrote:
I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating.

If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock.
If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read.
Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no?

I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her.
In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above.

As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are.
I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like.

On June 28 2018 12:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Regfan is a fucking pussy.

On June 28 2018 12:37 Mocsta wrote:
in your eyes, why would mafia hesitate to vote a town boxerfred? especialy, if she already showed she was willing to vote an afk?

mafia cant just keep voting mafia

as for shotkey, im not sure, i will have to filter dive that. can do once i finished with the wicked wings.

On June 28 2018 12:38 Mocsta wrote:
if you r town.. i don get y this is bad....

On June 28 2018 12:44 Mocsta wrote:
i thought it had to do with regfan going for a run and talking about the good ol' days.

nothing to do wityh gemma?

seems odd beef here because even you are adding "super cheap" here etc

On June 28 2018 20:07 Mocsta wrote:

Lol so its totally legit im hung up on this

And copcake is annoying about it because clearly biased

Meh. If rayn was scum. I treat him as 3rd and just wont bother with it any further.

Is rayn still your top read?

On June 28 2018 12:50 Mocsta wrote:
nothign to do with gemma?

i dunno how important this is.. so going to stop here

could just be group beef outside game

On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:

Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.

On June 28 2018 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
well this D1 is gonna end up on a town lynch most likely based on votes.

On June 28 2018 04:00 KelsierSC wrote:

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Day 1 Vote Count

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ShoCkeyy[3]:Calix,Ticktock,Vivax Regfan

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Calix[4]:Mocsta,raynpelikoneet,Koshi,CopCake

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TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan

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Ticktock[3]:ShoCkeyy,Holyflare,Conversion Vivax

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boxerfred[1]:boxerfred

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Vivax[1]:Regfan Holyflare,Calix




Calix is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

On June 27 2018 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore.
Calix is mafia.
Vivax is mafia.
Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare.

bye.

On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick.

On June 28 2018 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

why are you so fucking incapable to make a decision?
make a decision, dont ask useless shit from other ppl.

On June 28 2018 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

who me or tt?
youre wrong on both.

On June 28 2018 22:47 Mocsta wrote:

Im on phone

Is there any supporting quotes that rayn tr tt at that point?

On June 28 2018 22:50 Calix wrote:


100% incorrect.

Rayn voted for TT when I still had 4 votes, thus putting TT and I at 3 votes each. If he hadn't swapped, I would have been in the lead.

You're not even looking at the evidence when it comes to your rayn defense, lol.

On June 28 2018 22:50 Calix wrote:


100% incorrect.

Rayn voted for TT when I still had 4 votes, thus putting TT and I at 3 votes each. If he hadn't swapped, I would have been in the lead.

You're not even looking at the evidence when it comes to your rayn defense, lol.

On June 28 2018 22:24 Calix wrote:


Rayn came in and asked "why does ShoCkeyy have votes?"

At the time, ShoCkeyy had three votes.

One vote was me (his top scum-read).

One vote was Vivax (another one of rayn's scum-reads).

The third vote was Tictock.

Therefore it doesn't make sense for him to ask that question. Because the obvious answer from rayn's point of view is that mafia are trying to mislynch ShoCkeyy.

When I asked him this, rayn just called me "super scummy" and never answered the question.

On June 28 2018 22:19 Vivax wrote:
The only TR he could have had was shockey, but he had just two votes iirc.

On June 28 2018 22:18 Vivax wrote:


What do you make of his EoD entrance?

Someone also mentioned he said it was probably going to be a town lynch when two of his scumreads were being wagons.

On June 28 2018 23:23 Vivax wrote:


Didn't I add an iirc? I was working with my memory there

On June 28 2018 23:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It's stupid, I don't get it, BF came back obviously as you saw... He could of easily joined, but Cilax last minute switched to BF for idk what...

On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote:


I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town.

In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something.

I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games.

Just two examples off the top of my head.

On June 29 2018 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What are you even talking about i am never shooting my mislynch in a million years as mafia.