[M]Chill Hop Mafia - Page 2

On June 27 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic.

On June 27 2018 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I agree, you're trash.

On June 27 2018 02:18 Calix wrote:


I think you make a decent point with Reg. I was town-reading that slot because we had similar-ish reads at around the same time and they're producing a lot of content. But I can also see your argument where they don't say much that's scummy in isolation but you also can't say what they're trying to accomplish this game. It's not something I want to bet a D1 lynch on though.

I'm a bit skeptical about how I'm reading people because (now I've started to actually filter people and play the game) there's nothing that scummy about most of the active players and I kinda doubt that ALL the mafia are inactive.



Why?

On June 27 2018 02:48 Holyflare wrote:


This lynch me thing is actually serious?

On June 27 2018 02:49 Holyflare wrote:


Wait so the guy I wanted to lynch rubs you the wrong way too lol?? Why do you even scum read me?

On June 27 2018 05:15 Tictock wrote:


Don't take it as that, I'm just going gung-ho with my initial reads this game rather than being a tad passive in the early stages.

Always open to re-evaluation.

As such, while nothing has stood out to me as clearly Town!Calix I no longer think you are lock scum. Though it's just me being swayed by tone more than anything specific really.

I think I am going with the strategy of building a solid group of people I think are town and sorting out the Mafia from the remainder this phase.

Right now I think my town list is Rayn, Cake, Mocsta, and I'm probably going to add HF and Conversion but am less sure about them atm (though I'm pretty unlikely to want to lynch them today regardless).

On June 27 2018 19:28 Regfan wrote:
Really difficult to actually get a read on Conversion here since his HF push/scum-read looks to be entirely based on some OGI-esque type grudge or a joke-push that he's just maintained for the sheer majority of the day phase. It has scum motivation in that they can hide behind a push that can easily be chalked up as less alignment indicative but ultimately neither of those things feel out of the question for a TL player to do as town. There's other reads/thoughts inside his ISO, some I can sort of follow, others I can't, really though, not a lot to actually get a solidish read on anywhere there.

@Conversion - 1) Can you please just run through where your concern with HF stems from; what's he done here or previously that makes you think he's a worthy policy lynch type player? Can you also try and pull away from your issues with him as a person/player and run through what you think of his alignment in this game 2) How'd your dive into TT go, wouldn't mind you running through your stance on Vivax a little more for me, in #373, you mention you don't really think either him or Calix is mafia, I can follow your reasoning for not thinking they're a scum team there but I don't really see much more to it and removing him and throwing Shockwave/Koshi as your lynch pool feels fairly lazy.

- R

On June 27 2018 21:30 Vivax wrote:


Rayn scumreads both of us btw.

Bolded things in your post look contradictory at 1st glance. after your town reads it looks like you forgot to add something to that combo.

On June 27 2018 22:11 Regfan wrote:
Conversion

I really disliked the way he was pushing on HF, I also don't know if I entirely believe that he was just joking about scumreading him, because in #349 he responds to a serious post about a different read by saying he's not pushing that person, he's pushing HF. If his HF push is a joke, this feels like abusing that as a way to avoid responsibility for other stances, which would be the main mafia motivation for such a tunnel in the first place. He also says in #373 that HF is in his lynch pool, and given that the rest of that post is entirely serious, I don't really understand him not dropping the shtick there if that's what it was and being like "okay I'm being real now guys, here's my lynch pool" or whatever.

Sidenote I have no idea why I keep gendering Calix as male.

#216 was the first post where I started to feel tangibly bad about him, the way he talks about Cake feels disconnected but that's really just a little thing and more gut than actual reasoning I can talk about in a sensible way.

I'm a little bothered by the difference between his serious posts and the rest of his content. It feels fake somehow, that he's making a lot of little bite-sized posts that are kind of empty, then interspersing them with more serious ones. I don't know exactly how to explain this right now but the process inconsistency there feels bad.

I also just don't really have any real idea of who Conversion really thinks is mafia and why. I don't think he's really put himself out there at all or taken any meaningful stances and that also feels bad.

His read on us in particular I dislike. It feels like he's been trying to deny us towncred for as long as possible. He started off by asking people why we were town, excluding the most obvious reasons why we were town, then later says that we're logical in a good way but unmemorable and it doesn't feel like something he's genuinely thought through on his own. He also says that we're unmemorable literally right after rereading us, so I don't understand how that's even a thought? That's from #373, if you want to go see what I mean.

I also think the way he has treated Vivax is weird, he's said twice now that he doesn't feel like Vivax+1 make sense as mafia together but not really shown any deeper thought than that and that doesn't feel genuine to me.

I struggle to follow his thoughts in #517 and for the most part the way he talks about his stances feels kind of fake.

I wouldn't say I strongly scumread him by any means but I don't think he's town right now and I don't think I'd be opposed to lynching him today. There are a bunch of little things from him that I sort of slightly dislike, one or two things that I dislike more, and not really anything from him that I like except his tone and well, the fact that he's at least made some posts.

I would definitely appreciate some help with this read because there's probably a chance that some or a lot of this is playstyle and I don't really want to get hung up on that kind of thing. I wouldn't mind hearing him respond to any parts of this that he feels inclined to, especially if he were to talk about who he actually wants to lynch and why that would be really great.

-G

On June 27 2018 22:29 Regfan wrote:

If I'm not sure about my read on you, I'm not going to pretend to be sure. That would be stupid and horrible play. I'm also not going to not talk about a read just because I'm not sure about it. Don't tell me how to play and I won't tell you how to play, thanks.

-G

On June 27 2018 22:44 Regfan wrote:

Right, that's why you addressed none of my actual concerns and instead just insulted the way I play the game. Screw off.

-G

On June 27 2018 22:49 Calix wrote:


You cannot be serious.

Instead of trying to explain yourself to others so that they can understand where you're coming from, you deliberately leave things vague and up to interpretation.

Even though, from your POV, I'm either misreading you (as town) or I'm intentionally misrepresenting your posts (as mafia).

I don't see how a townie makes this post ever.

So I'm just going with ShoCkeyy/ Vivax/ ??? for my current scum reads.

I'd like some thoughts on ShoCkeyy/ Calix from the rest of the thread please.

On June 27 2018 23:55 Tictock wrote:


IMO you should just ignore Conversion re: HF. It is some sort of gruge, or more like he is just unwilling to try and read HF so just always assumes he is mafia and thinks the best play is to kill him first.

And I'm not quoting it, but your next post about Rayn here reminded me of something in the Conv v Rayn shit fest that I want to check. Conversion is well know to rage when insulted (though he never has a problem throwing the insults himself), even to the extent that he got himself modkilled in his last game after blowing up about some bout of name calling or some such.

On June 28 2018 01:22 CopCake wrote:
Rip that horrible match for Mexico lmaooook jesuschrist

On June 27 2018 23:55 Tictock wrote:


IMO you should just ignore Conversion re: HF. It is some sort of gruge, or more like he is just unwilling to try and read HF so just always assumes he is mafia and thinks the best play is to kill him first.

And I'm not quoting it, but your next post about Rayn here reminded me of something in the Conv v Rayn shit fest that I want to check. Conversion is well know to rage when insulted (though he never has a problem throwing the insults himself), even to the extent that he got himself modkilled in his last game after blowing up about some bout of name calling or some such.