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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:19 GMT
#875
like who gives a shit if only iamp could make that kill?

how does that affect anything we're doing now or what I thought back then?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:21 GMT
#879
On June 17 2018 06:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2018 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
On June 17 2018 06:17 Rels wrote:
On June 17 2018 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
On June 17 2018 06:10 Rels wrote:
On June 17 2018 03:33 Holyflare wrote:
On June 17 2018 03:13 Koshi wrote:
On June 17 2018 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
On June 11 2018 06:22 Rels wrote:
I agree with almost everything rayn said. Apart from a few things like kita and Grack. But the rest, I agree. In particular, I think the Superbia post where he lists his scumteam makes him town, and rayn seeing this when nobody else did makes him town too.

I don't like neither Palmar or iamp - Palmar's stuff on rayn is very weird. It's a weird mix of a joke and a serious read that I can only see coming from scum!Palmar - town!Palmar is blunt. I want to lynch him the most.

Koshi is weird. He was weird last game too though. But here he is saying I'm hiding behind my D1 activity when I'm super active as scum, and that's bad.


Rels makes this game impossible and it's bull shit. This post is very ridiculous with what happened with the nk and kita actually being mafia though.

Dnu what you are saying but if you are scumreading Rels for predicting the future I dont know what to tell you.


I am scum reading rels for saying Superbia was town when superbia did nothing and superbia died. I am also scum reading rels for saying throwing in team mate kita into an arbitrary list of two people he didn't agree with rayn about.

Mafia kills people that scumread them. Mafia don't kill people they pocket. This makes no sense. This makes as little sense as you scumreading rayn during D2 when rayn never kills Superiba N1.


Superbia was 100% either a rayn or a Mocsta kill. I also did not scum read rayn for that kill, I just simply said it was likely one of them that did it. With a preference for Mocsta because he did those weird kills as mafia a few games ago and even said he'd make a kill that wouldn't change the game state to further his agenda. He had the most to gain from it.

In hindsight, it made sense for kita to kill superbia because it didn't change the game state and he could keep scum reading rayn and hope that I push him with him + medic dodge.

Superbia only makes sense as a iamp kill.


if you say so

it's called an opinion, if it's wrong then it's a wrong opinion but it was my opinion that it was either rayn or mocsta

you're just arguing about an irrelevant point tbh

I'm arguing your argument for calling me scum is bad


it's my opinion and it's not a bad one

if you want the game thread to be stale then you have to kill the person that isn't making it stale but is a town read

you don't kill your fucking mafia reads do you?

no

now do some actual posts that don't involve me being mafia because your posts are bad

i agree it was a terrible night kill and mocsta does those
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:22 GMT
#880
On June 17 2018 06:21 Koshi wrote:
I also agree when I read superbia filter I thought of iamp doing it.


that's our fundamental difference

the only filters I've read this game have just been now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:26 GMT
#885
On June 17 2018 06:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 07:21 TheSlenderMan wrote:
Holyflare -- D1 you say this: "Tells people to stop trolling, presumably to instead play the game but then does nothing whatsoever to actually contribute. Then comes back 12 hours later to say nothing and afk and only just say palmar's read is weird.

plz lynch

##vote raynpelikoneet

team is probably rayn/koshi "

How is your own D1 any better by your own standards, before you start commenting on fuba?

This was the only thing before that last quote. So he never really townread HF before making that statement to rayn.


he said "hf is town" in a list post but that question was really the only substantial thing towards me at any point in the game

feels like you're kind of biased though because he makes the assumption that my vote is just a town one that lynched mafia so rayn is tunelled
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:36 GMT
#891
lynching me is fucking dumb
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:37 GMT
#895
you've read up to page 24 and haven't even seen any part of the real game or after the actual lynch where mafia was lynched and you're basing your entire read on who I thought was most likely to make a mafia nk

that's not good rels
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:40 GMT
#897
On June 17 2018 05:49 Rels wrote:
from what I've read (up until p24) I don't see how you can consider a Mocsta / kita team. Dude was arguing hardcore against him and was the first to vote him immediately after EOD.


??????????????????????????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 21:59 GMT
#908
I sat afk on iamp for 24 hours and none of you fuckers said a word about lynching him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:13 GMT
#910
On June 17 2018 06:46 Koshi wrote:
HF can be mafia with both iamp and slender I think.
So life is still good.



5. fuba
7. Tubesock
8. Mocsta
9. Koshi
10. Rels
11. KelsierSC
12. iamperfection
13. Grackaroni
14. TheSlenderMan


Fuba - Claimed but done nothing with it, about it or even appeared in the game, total disconnect from fuba where he caught me and did good posts but also too ballsy for mafia fuba to claim when he was not in a position to be lynched. If he had not claimed I think I would have lynched him though. Towny by virtue of claim.

Tube - Liked a lot of his posts, very reasonable. Playing more like an observer though and no real presence. Could quite easily be mafia but gut says town. Gut is a bit diseased though so take this with a massive grain of salt. Nothing he says is too out there and it's fairly... tame.

Mocsta - Read my posts, read the game where he was mafia that I linked and compare it to this one. Identical. Without a doubt in my mind is mafia. Just look at his content post flip and try and work out how a single one of his reads has been formed.

Koshi - gut says town, done a lot of digging and talking to me today which I appreciate quite a lot because it let me actually be convinced on mocsta when he could have just sat afk while I got lynched

rels - scum read myself and iamp after 24 pages and somehow everything after that did not convince him to change a single read, his posts are bad, he's arguing about shitty nitpicking things like my opinion of who made a NK, likely mafia

kelsier - his filter is the epitome of crap, literally says nothing and it's impossible to guess his alignment, the fuba post is so dumb that maybe you could say he's town but that's such a stretch it would be dumb to assume it

iamp - would be voting him today if more people confirmation biased me by voting with me, his list post was bad but not awful, he defended me which basically made me auto switch my vote to someone else and he was the counter wagon to kita with nobody really pushing elsewhere other than kita, gut says town but I haven't played with him enough to make that decision. Last time he was mafia I think his activity was about the same and he made a list post that was similar in shitness so probably would check it if I could be bothered

grack - opportune as fuck but I feel like he's just lazy rather than mafia, can't really understand why he's voting me(?) other than to bandwagon

slender - Correctly town read me and defended etc, said some weird stuff in relation to rels and rayn said he didn't sound the same as usual. Could be mafia. If I didn't know about the rayn read or if I didn't read the posts koshi has been quoting my gut would have said town though. I don't hate about 60% of what koshi said about him though, could well be mafia.


list is something like (from town to mafia):

fuba
koshi
grack
tube
iamp
kelsier
rels
slender
mocsta


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:14 GMT
#911
if none of you twats will read my mocsta posts then just go to his filter post kita flip and please just outline how he makes a single fucking read or why

if you do that then I will bypass the voting restriction and vote myself and confirm that all of you can vote me too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:17 GMT
#914
just read him post kita flip and it's really really obvious
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:17 GMT
#915
or don't just skim his posts just actually read the content and try and fathom how he reaches any of those conclusions on kita
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:18 GMT
#916
On June 17 2018 07:15 Koshi wrote:
If you are mafia I applaud you because you are clear town to me.
But you need the brigade to vote Slendy.


Holyflare [5]: Mocsta, Grackaroni, KelsierSC, Koshi, Rels
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:20 GMT
#918
then just vote slender who you think is very likely mafia over someone you think is very likely town???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:26 GMT
#921
and nothing actually makes any sense as to why he reads kita anything
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:28 GMT
#923
On June 17 2018 06:43 Rels wrote:
HF just feels scum. For so many reasons. So many bad conclusions. The debates with rayn since the early game. The mis-analysis of the Superbia's kill. Saying he scumread kita but always pushing someone else over him. Now trying to push Mocsta. Those gigantic posts against Mocsta, that almost noone will read and are full of storytelling. That makes no sense if he's town, he knows those never convince anyone. That shows effort if he's scum. Trying to find someone to lynch instead of him, anyone, instead of solving the game in that game whereI tunneled him hard and he flipped town.

Unflipped analysis now, but if he's scum with iamp, it makes even more sense. He never pushes him. Earlier today he said he was pushing him oor something like that, but since then he's trying to kill Mocsta KSC or me.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?page=77#1533

I just made a big post in that game you're talking about and did the same thing when I started to be up for lynch. How is that any different from now where iamp had 2 votes for 24 hours and then somehow I become a majority and then I try and pump out a case on why I think what I think and why?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:29 GMT
#924
If you do ONE thing this game read this filter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534114-mafia-for-busy-people?user=Mocsta&page=4

from this page and post #548 onwards (post kita flip) and tell me how ANY of those reads are formed and why they change
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:35 GMT
#926
On June 14 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 07:17 Koshi wrote:
Blah. If Kita is mafia I should apologize to Mocsta. I wont. But the idea will cross my mind. That's annoying.
Obviously you already know the answer to this, so I am expecting that apology.. br0

I also note that you are being aggressively rude this game.
something wrong in personal life? or that concerned about your teammate getting lynched?

thats a genuine question btw if it didnt come across that way.


Let's play a game. Pre or post kita flip?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:36 GMT
#928
Read the quote
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 16 2018 22:50 GMT
#942
Mocsta is the lynch boys.

Dunno about rels being mafia. Maybe just shit.
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