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On May 27 2018 00:58 Holyflare wrote:
It's not even only that your reads are what they are, it's that the list post you put out seems really premature given that you have a BIG outstanding question to GB in the thread and yet you're comfortable outlining your reads and including him in the not voting pile. It just seems like your post is pointless when you have absolutely nobody you want to vote.
I wrote that post to GB because the way he responded to my Koshi read annoyed me.
This being a very important post to find out GB's alignment is a figment of your imagination and was not my intention.
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Regardless, the point stands even more then. It does nothing for GB's alignment so your giant post was even more pointless because it has no scum reads in it and town reads the wrong people.
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On May 27 2018 01:03 Holyflare wrote:
Regardless, the point stands even more then. It does nothing for GB's alignment so your giant post was even more pointless because it has no scum reads in it and town reads the wrong people.
My post pretty clearly had a point. I wanted to give reads and my reasoning, which I tried to do.
Just because you don't agree with my reads and think they're hipster-mafia reads doesn't make the post pointless.
You're aren't making any sense and at this point I think you're just trying to shoehorn me as mafia.
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On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null
This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.
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On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post.
what did you think of that post ?
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My god, last night was wild
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On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. what did you think of that post ?
Kinda meh overall like I agree with GB being town but I was hoping for more content in the post itself. Mainly I thought his babo read to shallow.
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On May 26 2018 08:01 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2018 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:On May 25 2018 22:38 Grackaroni wrote:
That was the towniest series of Koshi posts that I think I've ever seen. Extremely high content to personality ratio.
I'll sheep the read on Rels and take his word on the Glowingbear town read. Uhm, no, he just calls me town and Rels mafia. You liked Koshi's posts too so why are you shitting on me?
Not for the same reason. You said he made posts full of content and he only gave two quick reads. You even admit that he usually posts stuff without content, regardless of alignment. So, his posts shouldn't be alignment indicative for you.
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On May 27 2018 01:44 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. what did you think of that post ? Kinda meh overall like I agree with GB being town but I was hoping for more content in the post itself. Mainly I thought his babo read to shallow.
Who is babo?
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On May 27 2018 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who the fuck is babo?
Jealous I knew him from DRTL and CRTL stuff and that was his sc ign.
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On May 27 2018 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DF i would call scum but lately he has been terrible so maybe he is just terrible here too
Thanks
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On May 27 2018 01:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2018 01:44 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:On May 27 2018 00:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.
I've finally read up
Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB
GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.
Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack
Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"
Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null Don't worry I discount your read on me since you can never really me for shit anyways <3 Anyways at least you posted something I was about to pm the mod to either warn you so you can actually post. what did you think of that post ? Kinda meh overall like I agree with GB being town but I was hoping for more content in the post itself. Mainly I thought his babo read to shallow. Who is babo?
See my reply to rayn.
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@HF
You could be Town but I feel like your/my reason for scum reading rayn isn't actually that strong so the fact that you're so gung ho about it makes me :S about you
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But we also agree on stuff so if you put a gun to my head wink wink I would say you're more likely town
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Alright so, here's why i think HF is mafia.
It is the way he responds (or doesn't) to my posts. First is the thing where i posted this line; "Okay for real is there anyone who wants to play the game on the following hour or not? I don't even know if we are 9v3 or 8v3 but it's gonna be hard anyways so how about we figure out shit fast?" Glowingbear was kindish of right that this one is a shitpost, because i intentionally wrote it in a very "fluffy" way and i also didn't even bother to check if there are 11 or 12 players in the game, which is something i could have easily done just if i wanted to. Instead i decided to just write some fluff with "encouraging" words,,  Which is why, i don't remember who asked (maybe GB?) yea i was telling the truth but it is still a "shitpost".
The thing is HF tends to jump on this kind of stuff, either for pressure or because he thinks the poster is mafia. That is if he is town. That is also why i originally scumread him, because he didn't. In my opinion it doesn't matter how much time he has, it matters that he was 100% in the thread right after that, and he 100% read the post because there was like 1 page of posts. The way he (didn't) react to the post makes me think he is mafia, it doesn't fit his town MO.
Second thing is this post.
On May 25 2018 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rayn's progression is towny. He goes from calling me mafia for shit reasons (that I didn't call out his post...? Hyper aware) to then calling out gb for also calling me mafia but he doesn't actually weigh up on gb's alignment and instead just attacks gb for an argument that is basically the same thing as his (at least he thought it was so why on earth was he initially attacking it?).
Then he votes jealous and gets mad and talks in codes for absolutely no reason. Looks like his pushes flopped and he's just clutching at straws for a reason to do not much imo.
There are many things wrong with this particular post. In fact it's the whole post that doesn't make any sense lol. I don't go "from calling him mafia" to anywhere, because i am not calling Jealous mafia. I am simply just policy voting him until he begins to play properly, it's that simple. I have absolutely no idea where that GB thing comes from because my argument with GB was completely unrelated to HF. My progression on GB is really easy to figure out but somehow HF groups this up with my read on him, which once again doesn't make any sense. The only thing i didn't continue with the "push" on HF was because there was nothing else to be said onto the matter, not to even mention most likely noone is going to understand why i think what i do.
Furthermore there is the completely nonsense stuff on my "read"/vote on Jealous because it is -- once again -- very easy to see why i am voting for him, and it is also very easy to see i don't actually think he is even necessarily mafia. It is because i simply don't want to decipher his posts twice, his posts will always lack reasoning, and if he is mafia it is very easy to hide behind pictures to NOT post actual reasoning, and i don't like it. I don't know why this is painted as some weird terrible "retracting from a push" because it is quite clear i have never even TRIED to "push" anyone in that sense during this game.
One other thing, Holyflare likes to lynch me and push me for lynch when he thinks i am mafia. This fact coupled with the above doesn't fit his town MO because he ACTUALLY seems to be thinking i am mafia but he isn't really doing anything with it, in a town!HF way. Rels knows this "no opinions, only facts" thing, it's pretty common for HF to act that wayand push stuff like it was truth even though he isn't even sure of it. That isn't happening right now, the scumread on me and the way he handles this is way too soft.
I tend to be pretty good with this kinda stuff, unless it's sicklucker in question lol.
GB and LS are town, that's quite simple.
Maybe Grackaroni is town too, i thought he could be town early on for the no fucks given attitude, then changed my mind and now i am changing my mind again. I will probably read him better tomorrow, i don't think i have time for that today -- i mean to make a judgement call that i will trust enough.
Koshi i already talked about.
Rels sounds town but could be mafia too, not lynching him D1 though.
df's psot was terrible because he most likely calls 3 townies mafia and the reasoning for every of his read is pretty fucking crap. It's like he is trying to play the game without actually having thought anything anyone has said in the game for real (see for example my "Jealous scumread")... Mafia or terrible.
I have a bit mixed feelings on byj, on the other hand i know a lot of people who play this style of mafia where "you can't tell anything before flips so maybe no-lynch", but then it bothers me he simply ditches that thought process after LS tells him he should vote. I mean i get the LS vote quite well from his perspective but since then he has changed vote and that i don't get anymore that well. I keep thinking why would he do that as mafia, because noone was "blaming him" for playing "i dont wanna lynch anyone" - card?? idk, gun to head i'd say town. Maybe like 55% town.
I don't have pretty much anything on fuba. I thought this post:
On May 25 2018 13:45 fuba wrote:
I don't think scum has participated heavily yet. No one talking a lot has set off any alarm bells. GB v Rayn feels town v town.
I think GB seems genuine, and I kinda like his reasoning on HF (enough to lean very lightly scum on HF). I'm a fan of jealous's drawings but I can understand rayn voting him for them. I can get behind GB's grack vote, but not for the reason he said. I just think it's pointless to come in and say "I have no thoughts.". I have to reread LS, because I feel like he's posted an ok amount but I can't remember anything he's really said.
My vote would currently be on grack, lurker, or a distant HF.
..sounded townie but i was pretty tired yesterday and i can't remember anymore why.
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Oh right one more thing, Grackaroni and Koshi are never mafia together.
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On May 26 2018 23:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Grackaroni's reads list:
Town lean:
Rels - His attitude seems townie to me. I think Rels is more of an aggressive questioner as scum.
Raynpelikoneet - I don't think Rayn is pushing a mafia agenda. He's sticking with his Holyflare read that convinced absolutely nobody earlier and is bitching about Jealous posting pictures. I think he's acting like more of a grumpy townie than mafia and is playing in a way that will make people want to vote him for reasons that don't actually make him more likely to be mafia.
Koshi - I liked his posts earlier.
Probably won't vote today:
GlowingBear - I liked the posts + narrative that Koshi highlighted for Glowing bear as a reason to town read him instead of any of his actual content, but I'm not really very familiar with Glowingbear so meh.
No opinion:
darthfoley
LightningStrike
fuba
Jealous
byj
Holyflare
nah nevermind, i don't think this post comes from mafia.
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It is for especially for the GB read and the lack of scumreads. Like it looks like a mafia post which is why i think mafia wouldn't post it, when you can actually make up something better.
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What a colossal waste of post. I never said you mafia read jealous or even said you had a mafia read on Jealous. I said your push on me was bad (I didn't read the thread nor cared how many people or mafia were in this game upon reading your post so it was just a pointless post and meant nothing) and was likely an occurence because you were burnt out at playing as mafia and then had given up pushing me and gone to policy.
That's like 90% of your post too and it's baaaaaaaad.
The other thing is you don't even really believe I'm pushing you but then you don't even check to see who I'm voting I'm voting grack because his read on you looks a lot like tmi and you haven't responded to anything yet. I still think you have a high chance of mafia but just not with grack.
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