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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 13:47 GMT
#341
On May 26 2018 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke u
On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.

I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.

Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<

I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.

Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.

yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.

I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.

But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.

Only with the right partner(s) I could break my own meta.
https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Arya321&page=7
That part of my filter will help I think you to give you a better clue.

I don't think you making some posts about "I would like for more player to enter the game" is you breaking meta though.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 13:47 GMT
#342
Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad?

I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 26 2018 13:50 GMT
#343
On May 26 2018 22:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke u
On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.

I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.

Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<

I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.

Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.

yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.

I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.

But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.

Only with the right partner(s) I could break my own meta.
https://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/529240-a-simple-game-of-mafia?user=Arya321&page=7
That part of my filter will help I think you to give you a better clue.

I don't think you making some posts about "I would like for more player to enter the game" is you breaking meta though.

To each their own I guess. I still frustrated about how half the game isn't really playing >.<
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 13:53 GMT
#344
I unvoted Rels for this post. His attitude seems really modest to me. That's about the best that I've got atm but it makes me not want to vote him.
On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke u
On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.

I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.

Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<

I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.

Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.

yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.

I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.

But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 13:55 GMT
#345
On May 26 2018 22:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there

I am here.

good.
Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything.

Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home.
But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm.

k. I think Jealous' stubborness makes him likely town actually. I don't think scum would angry the town for no gain. It's not like he's hiding behind his drawings to not say anything.
Will wait for the HF stuff

I disagree with this for two reasons:

1) Jealous probably decided to play like this pre-game.
2) I don't think he's actually angering many people since his pictures actually do give reads and some idea of the reasons behind them.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 14:04 GMT
#346
On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke u
On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.

I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.

Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<

I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.

Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.

yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.

I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.

But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.


this literally says 0 words

it's so many words to say absolutely nothing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 14:05 GMT
#347
On May 26 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there

I am here.

good.
Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything.

Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home.
But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm.


such an unbelievable cop out

he's posted actual reads
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 14:07 GMT
#348
On May 26 2018 22:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:42 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote:
rayn talk to me when you're there

I am here.

good.
Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything.

Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home.
But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm.

k. I think Jealous' stubborness makes him likely town actually. I don't think scum would angry the town for no gain. It's not like he's hiding behind his drawings to not say anything.
Will wait for the HF stuff

I disagree with this for two reasons:

1) Jealous probably decided to play like this pre-game.
2) I don't think he's actually angering many people since his pictures actually do give reads and some idea of the reasons behind them.

Point 2 is what I'm saying above, that he's not hiding behind it to not play.
Point 1 is right though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 26 2018 14:10 GMT
#349
On May 26 2018 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke u
On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.

I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.

Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<

I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.

Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.

yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.

I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.

But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.


this literally says 0 words

it's so many words to say absolutely nothing


You've:

A) Said nothing that makes LS town or mafia?
B) Didn't call LS mafia.
C) Explained why you didn't call him mafia.
D) Said you're not mafia reading him for meta.
E) Said you'd vote him if you had to.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 14:24 GMT
#350
On May 26 2018 23:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:38 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:01 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 21:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke u
On May 26 2018 19:32 Rels wrote:
On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.

I disagree him repeating he wants more people to play makes him anything.

Although true for most normal people I don't think I complained about it as scum before? I did heavily complain about the activity a bit in my last game when I was smurfing as Arya321 towards part of Day 3 trying to get town to work but this is just as bad >.<

I didn't think you could get angry as scum before that millionnaire game.

Only under Damdred's coaching I did but Damdred isn't in this game. I tried super hard for him and tried to abuse his ability to read me well in that game.

yeah. OK. That's not what I was trying to say exactly so let me try again.

I know it's frustrating to get scumread for stuff outside your control. I currently don't have any strong reads, but if I had to choose right now I would vote you. I'm sorry if you're town.

But it's not because I think you repeating "I hope more people plays" makes you scum. I know it's frutrating to get scumread because "meta", but I don't it makes you scum. But I also don't think it makes you town, like GB was saying at the top of the quote chain. I think you could do it as scum, emulating your last game where you also apparently also did it. I don't think it means anything.


this literally says 0 words

it's so many words to say absolutely nothing


You've:

A) Said nothing that makes LS town or mafia?
B) Didn't call LS mafia.
C) Explained why you didn't call him mafia.
D) Said you're not mafia reading him for meta.
E) Said you'd vote him if you had to.

Read in context. This whole conversation is about GB saying LS might be town for saying something, me not agreeing, and LS thinking I was saying another thing.

I think LS is scum because he's posting a lot and (1) not saying anything meaningful (2) most importantly, not paying attention to things he should. In particular, he said he followed a part of the thread very closely. This part of the thread is not very long, but he managed to miss two things in it that he shouldn't have, especially because they were linked to thinkgs he himself had done earlier.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 14:25 GMT
#351
Grackaroni's reads list:

Town lean:

Rels
- His attitude seems townie to me. I think Rels is more of an aggressive questioner as scum.

Raynpelikoneet - I don't think Rayn is pushing a mafia agenda. He's sticking with his Holyflare read that convinced absolutely nobody earlier and is bitching about Jealous posting pictures. I think he's acting like more of a grumpy townie than mafia and is playing in a way that will make people want to vote him for reasons that don't actually make him more likely to be mafia.

Koshi - I liked his posts earlier.

Probably won't vote today:

GlowingBear - I liked the posts + narrative that Koshi highlighted for Glowing bear as a reason to town read him instead of any of his actual content, but I'm not really very familiar with Glowingbear so meh.

No opinion:
darthfoley
LightningStrike
fuba
Jealous
byj
Holyflare
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 14:27 GMT
#352
I was tempted to color Holyflare as red for pushing Rayn but that could pretty easily be omgus for having been scum read for a shitty reason.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 26 2018 14:34 GMT
#353
I'll be honest Rels I don't give a fuck about your read on me right now but we need to work together. I thinking maybe 1-2 active scum with 1 afk scum because honestly town is a mess. Maybe I might be wrong on rayn but I doubt it. I know HF could do all that stuff as scum which is why i reserving my judgement on him. Do you think HF is town or scum atm Rels? Knowing his alignment might be the key here.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 14:50 GMT
#354
On May 26 2018 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
I'll be honest Rels I don't give a fuck about your read on me right now but we need to work together. I thinking maybe 1-2 active scum with 1 afk scum because honestly town is a mess. Maybe I might be wrong on rayn but I doubt it. I know HF could do all that stuff as scum which is why i reserving my judgement on him. Do you think HF is town or scum atm Rels? Knowing his alignment might be the key here.

I have no idea what alignement HF is.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 14:54 GMT
#355
On May 26 2018 22:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad?

I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him.

Idk. I have a problem with his post where he calls GB town for "picking a fight with me" but then he doesnt know if i am town or mafia. Like if i am not town it doesnt man shit, and as he says he thinks i may not be then how can he make that read on GB?
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 14:58 GMT
#356
On May 26 2018 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 22:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad?

I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him.

Idk. I have a problem with his post where he calls GB town for "picking a fight with me" but then he doesnt know if i am town or mafia. Like if i am not town it doesnt man shit, and as he says he thinks i may not be then how can he make that read on GB?

I guess but the chance of both you and Glowingbear being scum and instigating that argument at the start of the game seems so low to begin with that I'm ok with him discounting the SvS scenario.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 26 2018 15:01 GMT
#357
On May 26 2018 19:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 22:58 byj wrote:
Hiya! So am I right to assume we all have no night actions and have to find Mafia through talking/ voting patterns? I voted No Lynch in case I forget, but I don't trust any of you enough to follow on a lynch~

Hello! Is this your first game?

Hiya
First Mafia game like this, I am used to everybody having roles/actions for night too.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 15:01 GMT
#358
On May 26 2018 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2018 22:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad?

I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him.

Idk. I have a problem with his post where he calls GB town for "picking a fight with me" but then he doesnt know if i am town or mafia. Like if i am not town it doesnt man shit, and as he says he thinks i may not be then how can he make that read on GB?

I guess but the chance of both you and Glowingbear being scum and instigating that argument at the start of the game seems so low to begin with that I'm ok with him discounting the SvS scenario.

Its his reasoning whhat i have a problem with. If he had said what you just said i wouldnt have a problem with it.

Otherwise Koshi seems fine.
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
May 26 2018 15:13 GMT
#359
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
May 26 2018 15:13 GMT
#360
On May 26 2018 23:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
I'll be honest Rels I don't give a fuck about your read on me right now but we need to work together. I thinking maybe 1-2 active scum with 1 afk scum because honestly town is a mess. Maybe I might be wrong on rayn but I doubt it. I know HF could do all that stuff as scum which is why i reserving my judgement on him. Do you think HF is town or scum atm Rels? Knowing his alignment might be the key here.

I have no idea what alignement HF is.

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