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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2018 18:05 GMT
#421
the problem I have with your early game is as follows:

You started to scum read me for something but did absolutely nothing with it and didn't push it any further, I still don't even understand how what you said is pushable when I don't ever read the op to even know how many people are in the game and you know that.

The second is that when you dropped that and went after GB you were merely talking AT GB and even called him mafia but then did absolutely nothing with it too. You said he was mafia with me but maybe not, which is fine, but then you started arguing about really really semantic things like the exact wording of GB's argument against me for no reason other than to call his reasoning bad. You achieved nothing by doing it and didn't go back to pushing me.

Then you just gave up, did nothing and policy voted Jealous to "hold the game hostage" for absolutely no reason. If you were sure I was mafia then you were effectively doing nothing with it. You've bided your time on this read of me but it hasn't changed once since apparently the beginning of the game and your read on me is simply something you misread. It's simply just poor play which I don't expect from your town game. There was 0 interaction with me, 0 pushes on me, 0 of anything. It reminds me SO SO SO much of this one mafia game you played like what, 3 games ago? where you effectively went afk and did absolutely nothing because of "policy" and came back to write a wall of text that people just called you town for but you were mafia

it's gonna be really hard to get past that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2018 18:06 GMT
#422
On May 27 2018 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:00 Holyflare wrote:
my post you quoted says you went from mafia reading me to policy reading jealous because you're burnt out as playing as mafia?

it's quite simple lol

Well it it just untrue and and very simple minded.


so your changed argument on me was that "HF as town pushes things he doesn't believe as if he does believe them to create pressure" it suddenly disappears lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2018 18:07 GMT
#423
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 26 2018 18:08 GMT
#424
On May 27 2018 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:00 Holyflare wrote:
my post you quoted says you went from mafia reading me to policy reading jealous because you're burnt out as playing as mafia?

it's quite simple lol

Well it it just untrue and and very simple minded.


so your changed argument on me was that "HF as town pushes things he doesn't believe as if he does believe them to create pressure" it suddenly disappears lol?

i am sorry i was being nice, let me rephrase that; it is just untrue and a fucking shit argument.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 26 2018 18:09 GMT
#425
I dont "burn out" when playing as mafia multiple times in a row. Every singe game i am mafia i hate it equally much and basically everyone knows it. So it's a fucking terrible shit argument.
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 26 2018 18:10 GMT
#426
##Vote: Grackaroni
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2018 18:14 GMT
#427
this is EXACTLY like your argument in that one mafia game that I can't find of yours
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2018 18:14 GMT
#428
like super deja vu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:15 GMT
#429
On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?

1:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.


2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 26 2018 18:17 GMT
#430
No, i'm doing the minimum because I'm busy and I signed up for this game like a month ago. It's NAI
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 26 2018 18:17 GMT
#431
If I were mafia I probably would've just pulled a Rels and came into the thread an hour or two before EoD.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2018 18:18 GMT
#432
On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?

1:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.


2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.


why is grack's post any different?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:20 GMT
#433
On May 27 2018 03:17 darthfoley wrote:
If I were mafia I probably would've just pulled a Rels and came into the thread an hour or two before EoD.

that's what I feel like you did TBH p: only 6 hours instead of 1-2
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 26 2018 18:21 GMT
#434
On May 27 2018 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
this is EXACTLY like your argument in that one mafia game that I can't find of yours

it probably is tbh.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 26 2018 18:22 GMT
#435
I'm willing to put my reputation on the line that grackaroni is mafia after looking at his past games
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:23 GMT
#436
On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?

1:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.


2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.


why is grack's post any different?

dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 26 2018 18:25 GMT
#437
On May 27 2018 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
I'm willing to put my reputation on the line that grackaroni is mafia after looking at his past games

please go on.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:25 GMT
#438
reworded so it makes sense: the list post Grack made was logical with his earlier posts
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 26 2018 18:26 GMT
#439
On May 27 2018 03:17 darthfoley wrote:
If I were mafia I probably would've just pulled a Rels and came into the thread an hour or two before EoD.

Is that even a possibility considering you'd have to post at least 3 times to avoid being mod killed? I'd say talking is the best way to fly under the radar.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 26 2018 18:26 GMT
#440
Rels can you contribute a bit more on the strength of your df read? How sure are you of it?
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