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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:28 GMT
#441
On May 27 2018 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels can you contribute a bit more on the strength of your df read? How sure are you of it?

dunno, let's say 6/10. Not very sure, but it's the first thing I've felt good about this game.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 26 2018 18:30 GMT
#442

Day 1 Vote Count



Grackaroni [3]: GlowingBear, Holyflare, darthfoley
Jealous [2]: raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni
Rels [1]: Koshi, Grackaroni
GlowingBear [1]: Holyflare, byj
byj [1]: Jealous
darthfoley [1]: Rels
Holyflare [0]: raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike [0]: byj
raynpelikoneet [0]: GlowingBear, Holyflare

Not Voting [2]: LightningStrike, fuba


Grackaroni is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, May 26 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 18:30 GMT
#443
On May 27 2018 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
I'm willing to put my reputation on the line that grackaroni is mafia after looking at his past games


Cool.

For the record, I don't think this characterizes my play very well at all.
On May 27 2018 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
if you're town you see grack who, let's face it, is an incredibly sideline and not making reads out of the blue player making reads on you when you've done pretty much nothing that are "so correct" but you think it's just a mafia post that makes him town?

why does that make sense?

I think I give my fair share of unorthodox reads and try to justify things with my own reasoning, which usually is dependent on the impressions I have of different players.

Though I am pretty lazy.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:33 GMT
#444
byj did you read the OP before starting to play ?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 18:36 GMT
#445
On May 26 2018 10:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Seriously no one is talking what the fuck happened since my days of actively playing mafia? This is usper depressing for me I wish Ian and tina was playing this game just to get more pages into this thread >.<

I also lol'd super hard onto this.
Not in a bad way for Damdred but still.
table for two on a tv tray
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 26 2018 18:41 GMT
#446
On May 27 2018 03:23 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?

1:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.


2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.


why is grack's post any different?

dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was


We all played enough games to know that congruency is not a particular town trait.

Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 26 2018 18:42 GMT
#447
HF what's my alignment?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 26 2018 18:43 GMT
#448
For now my hangover is too strong for me to catch up, so I just skimmed.

@HF: I meant "what's your read on me?"
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:46 GMT
#449
On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:23 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?

1:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.


2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.


why is grack's post any different?

dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was


We all played enough games to know that congruency is not a particular town trait.

Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?

I don't think it makes him town or anything. HF was asking me about the difference between DF's list post and Grack's list post. Well, the difference is that DF's list post is his first serious post and seems forced, while Grack's list post isn't.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 18:50 GMT
#450
On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?

The thing is, there are arguments for and against you. Why doesn't he take a stand on you if he is mafia? It's very easy to agree with one side instead of being on neither side of things (regardless of your alignment). The way he presented the read on you also looks "bad", or well.. "scummy" because yeah, just because what is said of it. But imo the fact is grack would have an easier time to make up something else instead of what he did, as mafia, regardless of your alignment.

Also yeah the lack of scumreads, well just read the above, i'll go with the same reasoning.

Like... Do you think mafia makes this post and doesn't consider "does this look bad on me or not when i give zero scumreads?" because i don't. And yeah as Rels said it's completely different from DF's post which was just well.. full of nonsense for nonsense reasons.
table for two on a tv tray
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 26 2018 18:50 GMT
#451
On May 27 2018 03:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:23 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?

1:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.


2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.


why is grack's post any different?

dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was


We all played enough games to know that congruency is not a particular town trait.

Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?

I don't think it makes him town or anything. HF was asking me about the difference between DF's list post and Grack's list post. Well, the difference is that DF's list post is his first serious post and seems forced, while Grack's list post isn't.


Okay, but what's your read on Grack, then? Why isn't he a good lynch today?
Do you think I'm town? Do you think Holyflare is town?
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 18:51 GMT
#452
df's post screams "i really haven't given any fucks about this game, still i wanna look like i do".
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 26 2018 18:54 GMT
#453
On May 27 2018 03:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:46 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:23 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:15 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:07 Holyflare wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:02 Rels wrote:
I think DF is the best lynch.


why?

1:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.


2: this game is very slow. Votes are all over the place. It feels like scum is just waiting and hiding, happy to let the game go at this slow pace. So this post as DF makes a ton of sense as scum, to just do the minimum and not more.


why is grack's post any different?

dunno, it felt OK when I read it. It made sense for the posts Grack did earlier. It didn't feel like a list post he fabricated to enter the thread, like DF was


We all played enough games to know that congruency is not a particular town trait.

Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?

I don't think it makes him town or anything. HF was asking me about the difference between DF's list post and Grack's list post. Well, the difference is that DF's list post is his first serious post and seems forced, while Grack's list post isn't.


Okay, but what's your read on Grack, then? Why isn't he a good lynch today?
Do you think I'm town? Do you think Holyflare is town?

I have no read on Grack.
You're my strongest townread.
HF was null until now, he could have easily gona into a shouting match with rayn and didn't, instead it looks like he genuinely found something on Grack. I'm waiting to see him deliver on that.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 26 2018 18:55 GMT
#454
On May 27 2018 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?

The thing is, there are arguments for and against you. Why doesn't he take a stand on you if he is mafia? It's very easy to agree with one side instead of being on neither side of things (regardless of your alignment). The way he presented the read on you also looks "bad", or well.. "scummy" because yeah, just because what is said of it. But imo the fact is grack would have an easier time to make up something else instead of what he did, as mafia, regardless of your alignment.

Also yeah the lack of scumreads, well just read the above, i'll go with the same reasoning.

Like... Do you think mafia makes this post and doesn't consider "does this look bad on me or not when i give zero scumreads?" because i don't. And yeah as Rels said it's completely different from DF's post which was just well.. full of nonsense for nonsense reasons.


We could also agree that achieving "too scum to be scum" reads is a very comfortable place to be as mafia.
It's a route I took countless times while playing as scum.

But I admit you can be right on this, and I'm going to rethink.
I'm adorable.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
May 26 2018 18:55 GMT
#455
I'm legitimately quite baffled as I think I have a townie filter this game.

I think Jealous is a pretty good lynch. He's gotten lots of easy town reads this game and the main analysis he has posted was prompted by a question from Glowingbear rather than him just posting thoughts on things that he finds interesting to him in the thread, which I think is more mafia-ish than townish.
On May 26 2018 07:17 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2018 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Hey jealous!

What do you think about me?

Am I town?

Am I scum?

[image loading]


On May 26 2018 08:37 Jealous wrote:
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2018 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI!

I'm town.

Rayn is mafia again.

##Vote: raynpelikoneet


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On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time


Uh-huh. Terrible opening.


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On May 25 2018 10:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like the pictures but if you wanna play pictionary you are in the wrong game man....
It really gets annoyng after a while when you have to double decipher someone's posts.


Nope.


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On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.


[image loading]


On May 25 2018 10:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 10:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
When you have read the thread aka 10 posts tell me GB.


OHAI!

I've read it all.

Just pointed out the ones I felt talking about.

Me town. You town? I don't think you town.

On May 25 2018 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 10:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
Town but no time


Uh-huh. Terrible opening.

"I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total".

:D

2 mafia down boyzz.


If Holyflare is town, he will come and comment stuff.
If Holyflare is town and has no time, he won't have time to comment that he has no time.

That's where I come from.


[image loading]


On May 25 2018 10:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 10:58 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.

Hey it been a long time since I played with you how it been?
Also side note for myself this fight is a bit forced?


HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LS!

Rayn is forcing it. I'm just having fun


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On May 25 2018 11:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 10:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i dont have time for chit-chat here, i made a terrible post on the last page, i even laughed at it myself and Holyflare decided to not comment on it while he has 100% read the game (aka 1 page) if town. Always. He should imo always comment on the terrible garbage in case he was town. So yeah, there we go.


I kinda agree.

We can start lynching rayn and holyflare.
We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play.
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.

Grackaroni NAI opening.
darthfoley NAI opening.

for reference.
worst post 100%, says nothing.


It says I don't like you and you might be mafia
It says I don't like HF and he might be mafia

It says I think LS may be town

It's says a lot for only 2 pages of game.


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On May 25 2018 11:05 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why didnt you just say "LS might be town" then instead of all that crap?


I'm just typing as words comes to my mind

I'm kinda euphoric right now

And I'm not a native speaker. Also not a very good english speaker at all.


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On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.


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On May 25 2018 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Tell me why someone who has no time comes to the thread to communicate he is town and has no time to read a ONE PAGE GAME?


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On May 25 2018 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:
LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town.


Now that I read it again, it's actually pretty clear I'm saying he might be town.

ah yes, you did have to read it again to make sure what you said?


Not what I said, but how I said it


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On May 25 2018 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Tell me why someone who has no time comes to the thread to communicate he is town and has no time to read a ONE PAGE GAME?

now you're using my argument and painting it as yours


No, your argument is that he didn't pick up a shitpost you claim you made on purpose.
My argument is that if he is town he would either play the game or simply not post a single post until he has time.

On May 25 2018 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
but then again you also called me mafia


I didn't like your bait post. Looked forced to me.

On May 25 2018 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay for real is there anyone who wants to play the game on the following hour or not?
I don't even know if we are 9v3 or 8v3 but it's gonna be hard anyways so how about we figure out shit fast?


This.
This is so forced.

It either looks
1) You mean it, and talking about setup is something you're really against, which makes me feel you're mafia
2) You don't mean it and you're looking for a scum slip "OMG ONLY SCUM WOULD CARE IF IT'S 9v3 OR 8v3". We all know that there are no such thing as scum slip, so it makes me feel you're mafia.
3) "How about we figure out shit fast" is bad and forced, and it feels you didn't mean it. It feels you made this post for people to nitpick. But you're not one to make shitposts like this. Actually you always bashed on me for trying to do stupid things on purpose. This seems out of character.

There.


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On May 25 2018 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways GB is likely town and same with rayn hopefully we can get a town circle going.


Why am I town?

Your responses to rayn seemed townie especially pointing out that part of the your quote regarding your read on me to rayn felt townie as mafia I don't think you would be bothered to even try that knowing you.


Just to get this clear: you're meta-ing me and you think I'm so lazy as mafia that I wouldn't bother to answer rayn like that?

On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?


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On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Less euphoric now, reading more carefully.

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On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?

It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that.


I'm okay with you being town.


I'm no longer okay with you being town.
First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought.

LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town.

@Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true?

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On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever.


We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn.

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##Vote: Grackaroni



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On May 26 2018 01:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 26 2018 00:49 darthfoley wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
OK rayn, I'll be serious now.
Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong?

uh what?


I said HF could be mafia because:

If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff.
If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time.

Therefore, he might be mafia.

Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing.

I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia".
Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this?


Indeed. I am also puzzled by how these comments = he may be mafia


My wording can be confusing, but it's simple logic.

If I don't see town motivation behind a post, it makes the guy probably mafia.


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On May 26 2018 01:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 13:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways going to bed now I really wish more people will enter the game so I can solve the game better. Will check everything out after I wake up!


Gut feeling: this post sounds townish to me. For some reason I can't see LS posting this as mafia. He is not really good at lying.
I'll go with LS being town for now.


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On May 26 2018 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 15:48 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2018 12:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Less euphoric now, reading more carefully.

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On May 25 2018 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 11:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2018 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:
But LS, you said our fight looked forced.
How did your read from "forced" to "natural" happened?

It looked forced at first but his read from scumreading you to townreading you was natural though given the posts after that.


I'm okay with you being town.


I'm no longer okay with you being town.
First I thought "LS has no reason to fake feeling our 'fight' is a bit forced and then flipping his position an calling both of us town", but then I thought "why is he calling me town for a post right after rayn said I was town for the same post?", felt like parroting. I don't know, I have to give this more thought.

LS, you've played with me as scum, didn't you? People never get me as scum day'1 because I am always a heavy poster. I don't know why you think I would be lazy as mafia. Plus "a fuzzy memory" doesn't look like a strong ground to call someone town.

@Rayn: Why am I town for that post? I called it a "shitpost" but you said you really mean it word by word. Is that true?

On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever.


We can start voting you then, because it's impossible to not have even a weak opinion on my interaction with rayn.

##Unvote
##Vote: Grackaroni



This is like 90% why ls isn't town and 5% on grack yet you vote the off hand comment instead. Baaaaad gb.


This is me being transparent on my stream of thought regarding LS. I even said I have to rethink LS in that.

In the other hand, it's clear I have a strong opinion on that post by grack.

BAAAAD HOLYFLARE


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On May 26 2018 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 25 2018 22:38 Grackaroni wrote:
That was the towniest series of Koshi posts that I think I've ever seen. Extremely high content to personality ratio.

I'll sheep the read on Rels and take his word on the Glowingbear town read.


Uhm, no, he just calls me town and Rels mafia.


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On May 26 2018 06:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, caught up.

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On May 26 2018 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Gb do you actually scum read anyone? You seem to flop back and forth, comment on things amd say nothing.


Yeah, I thought it was clear that I think grackaroni might be mafia.

For now, I have rayn and grackaroni as possible mafia.

Koshi is probably town.
Rels is probably town.
You are probably town (every one knows I pick posts that sounds scummy right at the beginning of the game and I rethink it later)

I admit I'm getting paranoia regarding LS. Sometimes he sounds townie, sometimes he sounds scummy.


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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
May 26 2018 18:55 GMT
#456
On May 27 2018 03:33 Rels wrote:
byj did you read the OP before starting to play ?

Yes. What do you mean?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 26 2018 18:56 GMT
#457
Reconsider*, not rethink. Which is the same. But it's weird.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 26 2018 18:58 GMT
#458
I'll be back in two hours
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 18:59 GMT
#459
On May 27 2018 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 27 2018 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad?

The thing is, there are arguments for and against you. Why doesn't he take a stand on you if he is mafia? It's very easy to agree with one side instead of being on neither side of things (regardless of your alignment). The way he presented the read on you also looks "bad", or well.. "scummy" because yeah, just because what is said of it. But imo the fact is grack would have an easier time to make up something else instead of what he did, as mafia, regardless of your alignment.

Also yeah the lack of scumreads, well just read the above, i'll go with the same reasoning.

Like... Do you think mafia makes this post and doesn't consider "does this look bad on me or not when i give zero scumreads?" because i don't. And yeah as Rels said it's completely different from DF's post which was just well.. full of nonsense for nonsense reasons.


We could also agree that achieving "too scum to be scum" reads is a very comfortable place to be as mafia.
It's a route I took countless times while playing as scum.

But I admit you can be right on this, and I'm going to rethink.

The thing is basically noone does think like that as mafia because you can't predict what people will do. I mean like it is easy to tell Grackaroni is either trying to play as town or trying to look like he is playing as scum, right? So that's the difference, the post in itself is never a "hey maybe i make this too scummy to be scum post to get myself read like that by townies". Like you could argue for example some of my posts could be trying to achieve that, but not that particular post from him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 26 2018 18:59 GMT
#460
On May 27 2018 03:55 byj wrote:
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On May 27 2018 03:33 Rels wrote:
byj did you read the OP before starting to play ?

Yes. What do you mean?

He means why do you not know there is a doctor in the game if you read the OP before the game?
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