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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 09:08 GMT
#161
Have access to a keyboard, thank God.

Vivax might be mafia because of how he went about his GB read. First he says that "GB saying he can't post for a while after posting a bunch at the start of the day reads defensive to me" which is typically a mafia trait, and when Damdred questions this read and implies a negative view of Vivax because of it ("kinda a meh read from you"), Vivax's reaction is to call both GB AND Damdred town. Weird progression.

As I see it, it's one of these scenarios:

A) Vivax was always town-reading GB, in which case why did he make the comment about GB being defensive?

B) Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.

C) Some other scenario I haven't accounted for. However the two I listed were the ones that came to mind when I first read the exchange.

So yes, I'd like an explanation.

I also don't see how the reason he gave for Damdred being town ("I don't see why you wouldn't partially agree with me if you were mafia") is AI.


I agree that GlowingBear is more likely town than not. His posting reads as spontaneous and unplanned to me.

As for his case on me, it's dumb because I DID respond to his vote (after he actually gave reasons) and Eversince's assumption that it was a spite vote was more interesting than a naked vote.


I also want a response from Eversince that clarifies that random town-read she doled out to one of GB/ Calix. Both GB and I asked about that and she ignored both queries to post some irrelevant nonsense. So I am asking again.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 09:09 GMT
#162
Page top!

I second the "how does knowing who the good players are help you find mafia?" query.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 09:24 GMT
#163
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?
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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 09:25 GMT
#164
On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?


?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 09:28 GMT
#165
Also it seems like you dont have aread on me. Which is weird since i (1) made an observation you 100% agree on and (2) i made another (same) observation (to yours) where my conclusion in the opposite to yours.

Still you dont have an opinion on me, and youre also not engaging me on (2).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 09:30 GMT
#166
On April 08 2018 18:25 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?


?

There is absolutely nothing alignment indicative in GB asking my/eversince's opinion on you, regardless of whatever alignment all three of us are.

The post where you started questioning that is the one i actually think you might be mafia for.
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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 09:34 GMT
#167
On April 08 2018 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also it seems like you dont have aread on me. Which is weird since i (1) made an observation you 100% agree on and (2) i made another (same) observation (to yours) where my conclusion in the opposite to yours.

Still you dont have an opinion on me, and youre also not engaging me on (2).


I am reserving judgment on you until I have something a bit more substantial. I don't believe that posting every thought I have about people is the most productive approach even in the early game.

1. Seconding the "why does CH need to know who the good players are?" =/= observation.

2. I am not 100% sure what you're referring to here. The Vivax read? You said "Vivax last post was extremely dumb but probably town dumb" yes? I read this as "too scummy to be scum" but correct me if I am wrong.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 09:38 GMT
#168
On April 08 2018 18:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 18:25 Calix wrote:
On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?


?

There is absolutely nothing alignment indicative in GB asking my/eversince's opinion on you, regardless of whatever alignment all three of us are.

The post where you started questioning that is the one i actually think you might be mafia for.


I have no idea what you are talking about. I never said that it was alignment-indicative for GB to ask for your opinions.

I did, however, ask about why he asked you two if they "saw what he did" after saying his read was "pure intuition". Which was asking for clarification.

Your mafia read seems half-hearted and isn't elaborated aside from piggy-backing off whatever GB said.

Basically I don't give a damn that you apparently "mafia read" me because I barely even noticed that you are.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 09:42 GMT
#169
On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?


Going back to this, why did you completely ignore my points against Vivax? If you think I'm mafia, it would follow that you'd have an opinion when your "mafia read" makes a wall-post accusing someone you called dumb town. Yet you completely ignore this to post this question. And it's not even a good question.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 09:46 GMT
#170
I dont think there is such thing as too scummy to be scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 09:47 GMT
#171
On April 08 2018 18:42 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?


Going back to this, why did you completely ignore my points against Vivax? If you think I'm mafia, it would follow that you'd have an opinion when your "mafia read" makes a wall-post accusing someone you called dumb town. Yet you completely ignore this to post this question. And it's not even a good question.

It is because your post doesnt really say anything. You dont explain why Vivax does that as mafia you just say it maybe makes him mafia. Also i am at work and wont be making long posts until i am home.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 09:48 GMT
#172
Also no, "which is ťypically a mafia trait" doesnt really mean anything at all.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 09:50 GMT
#173
Also also answer is A.
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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 09:53 GMT
#174
If you don't think there's such a thing as too scummy to be scum then yeah, I'd like to know why you think Vivax's dumb post is "town dumb" then.

A questionable progression isn't a reason to suspect someone is mafia? Yes, I said that it 'might' make him mafia as I would like an explanation from him first but there's still plenty of content to comment from.

And if you thought it didn't say anything then again, why WOULDN'T you respond to it saying that at the time? Here's what you're claiming. Your mafia read a makes long accusatory post "which doesn't say anything" on someone you town-lean and you're claiming you just ignored it until I prodded you for a response?

Yeah, I don't believe you.

##vote raynpelikoneet
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 08 2018 10:06 GMT
#175
Day 1 Vote count
remaining




Calix (1): GlowingBear
Raynpelikoneet (1): Calix

Not Voting:
Skynx, Holyflare, Oatsmaster, ExO_, n00bKing, Eversince, currentlyhomeless, Tubesock, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Damdred



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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 08 2018 10:31 GMT
#176
I am sorry but that's exactly what i did, responded to your post. So your reasoning is made up.
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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 11:00 GMT
#177
On April 08 2018 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry but that's exactly what i did, responded to your post. So your reasoning is made up.


Congrats, this is the scummiest post in the thread!

Firstly, you only responded after I directly asked why you ignored my post. Doesn't count hun.

Secondly, you straight-up accused me of making shit up but you don't even vote me for it?

Moreover, why are you apologising? I'M YOUR MAFIA READ. Who you're not voting for! Apologizing is basically you waving a flag reading "I know I'm full of shite".

In fact, to highlight how ridiculous and nonsensical it is for you to not be voting me at this point, I've quoted all the times you implied, or outright stated, that I am mafia. Hell, accusing me of making things up should be SUFFICIENT REASON to vote for me WITHOUT any other quotes. But you're dancing around the topic and keep saying I'm doing stuff that mafia does yet you won't commit.

And you're doing that because you're trying to evade a confrontation with me

Three words for you, boo: Vote me, pussy.

+ Show Spoiler [Rayn's Calix posts] +
GB might be right on Calix but not for that reason.

She's arguing about stuff that doesnt make anyone anything, or at least mafia.

What Tubesock says its not it. I will explain better when i get off work, got called in for today.

Also it seems like you dont have aread on me. Which is weird since i (1) made an observation you 100% agree on and (2) i made another (same) observation (to yours) where my conclusion in the opposite to yours.

Still you dont have an opinion on me, and youre also not engaging me on (2).

The post where you started questioning that is the one i actually think you might be mafia for.

It is because your post doesnt really say anything. You dont explain why Vivax does that as mafia you just say it maybe makes him mafia. Also i am at work and wont be making long posts until i am home.

currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 08 2018 11:03 GMT
#178
On April 08 2018 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right, and i am still waiting for the answer to how is that in any way relevant to finding mafia?


Do you normally answer questions with more questions?

If you can rub your fingers together you can probably figure out for yourself why someone who is obviously smurfing would be interested in knowing the state of the game these days.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 08 2018 11:10 GMT
#179
On April 08 2018 20:03 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Right, and i am still waiting for the answer to how is that in any way relevant to finding mafia?


Do you normally answer questions with more questions?

If you can rub your fingers together you can probably figure out for yourself why someone who is obviously smurfing would be interested in knowing the state of the game these days.


And in the corner, we have the master of dodging game-solving points!

Since you evidently care a lot about this question, I'll offer my two cents so you actually do stuff. HF, rayn, Damdred are who I'd say the "best" players are. But as far as I know, they're all busy these days. That's why you see a lot of short posts, I think.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 08 2018 11:35 GMT
#180
On April 08 2018 18:34 Calix wrote:
I don't believe that posting every thought I have about people is the most productive approach even in the early game.


To use your own quote, there isn’t much point in me “doing” anything (whatever that means, posting stupid one liners?) especially this early.

With that said,

##vote Holyflare

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