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Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.
Why not?
I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though.
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On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote + Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind. Why not?
Came across as too 'certain'. It reads like you already thought he was town and were just making that explicit. If you had been convinced you'd be more likely to say "yeah good point", or acknowledge if Damdred had changed your mind, or give your own reasons for town reading GB, etc.
I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though.
If you 'weren't scum leaning GB particularly' then what made you change that into a "yeah he's town" response?
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On April 08 2018 20:47 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote: Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind. Why not? Came across as too 'certain'. It reads like you already thought he was town and were just making that explicit. If you had been convinced you'd be more likely to say "yeah good point", or acknowledge if Damdred had changed your mind, or give your own reasons for town reading GB, etc. Show nested quote +I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though. If you 'weren't scum leaning GB particularly' then what made you change that into a "yeah he's town" response?
The enthusiasm damdred mentioned, you can add the bit where he said he will wait for what rayn say. Though I remember GB as being able to be quite pushy as mafia, his posts come with a more negative tone to them when he is.
I think it's quite easy to follow how my attention shifted through those pages. But I'll explicate it in a wild salad of summary: GB somewhere in null land, peaces out. See post from HF about posted from android. Think it's defensive but don't want to scumread him for it alone. Damdred posts townread. Confront him with possible argument for mafia. Nope Vivax. Gloss a bit over GB filter. Agree with GB being town very bluntly worded. Also thinking about what it means for Damdred from that exchange. Damdred can be town too cause not waffly when given opportunity.
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I like Calix's Rayn points. Checkmate mafia Rayn.
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On April 08 2018 20:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 20:47 Calix wrote:On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote: Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind. Why not? Came across as too 'certain'. It reads like you already thought he was town and were just making that explicit. If you had been convinced you'd be more likely to say "yeah good point", or acknowledge if Damdred had changed your mind, or give your own reasons for town reading GB, etc. I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though. If you 'weren't scum leaning GB particularly' then what made you change that into a "yeah he's town" response? The enthusiasm damdred mentioned, you can add the bit where he said he will wait for what rayn say. Though I remember GB as being able to be quite pushy as mafia, his posts come with a more negative tone to them when he is. I think it's quite easy to follow how my attention shifted through those pages. But I'll explicate it in a wild salad of summary: GB somewhere in null land, peaces out. See post from HF about posted from android. Think it's defensive but don't want to scumread him for it alone. Damdred posts townread. Confront him with possible argument for mafia. Nope Vivax. Gloss a bit over GB filter. Agree with GB being town very bluntly worded. Also thinking about what it means for Damdred from that exchange. Damdred can be town too cause not waffly when given opportunity.
Okay, I'll accept this explanation for now. I don't think continuing this train of thought will become much more productive. Thoughts on rayn? Any other reads to share?
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Nah haven't done much yet. I'm bit puzzled over what rayn meant with townie dumb on Vivax in one of his first posts. Otherwise I haven't really started scumhunting much yet. But no worries, I will deliver.
I heavily dislike the fact that rayn decided to judge me on paranoia alone though. Cause paranoia means that I scumread someone who is mostly townie looking and as seen from last game that doesn't mean I'm paranoid. It means that I believe a mafia is being widely townread. Since when is going against the grain paranoia?
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On April 08 2018 21:09 Vivax wrote:
Nah haven't done much yet. I'm bit puzzled over what rayn meant with townie dumb on Vivax in one of his first posts. Otherwise I haven't really started scumhunting much yet. But no worries, I will deliver.
I heavily dislike the fact that rayn decided to judge me on paranoia alone though. Cause paranoia means that I scumread someone who is mostly townie looking and as seen from last game that doesn't mean I'm paranoid. It means that I believe a mafia is being widely townread. Since when is going against the grain paranoia?
That's a lot of words to say "I forgot to vote for rayn, I'll get on with that now" fam 
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Wassup guys?
I caught two scum.
- GlowingBear
This is different than what Vivax picked up on, look at the timestamps here:
On April 08 2018 06:59 GlowingBear wrote:
My god this is a slow start.
It's saturday night, people!
It's not like we're sociable people pursuing sex.
Are we?
On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.
I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.
Buh-bye!
15 mins between "I'm super excited let's play!" and "k i'm going out". And then'
On April 08 2018 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.
I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.
Buh-bye!
Sent from my Android. ROFL
5:40 til he comes back. Whichever way you look at it it's not plausible. I can imagine scum motivations of doing this but let's not theorycrraft here. Point is there is just a chain of lies here which you really don't need if you're town.
- raynpelikoneet
On April 08 2018 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the time difference in #118 and #121? Cant see that on phone.
He (appears as) thinks he possibly caught something here. Then completely abandons it. That just doesn't add up. What town!rayn does here is:
1) Quote the posts to look at timestamp difference.
2) If he really didn't learn that in i dunno how many years in tl mafia, ask someone else again to check it.
3) If what he inquires turns out to be nothing, he'd be like "ok ignore this guys i though i saw something"
I remember that one game (town!rayn) I said something in the thread that didn't really mean what i meant and he just didn't let it go for 2 straight day cycles. I also noticed in classic mafia (mafia!rayn) he was so laid back and non-inquisitive, kinda leaving ties loose as in here.
On April 08 2018 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Homelessperson are you from the same forum noobking is?
Kinda contemplates the above. What is the point of this question? How exactly does an information that homeless is or is not from the same forum as noobking helps him or town playing this game or make a read on him??
I think this is scum rayn just throwing random questions out there that has nothing to do with anything other than to look town and to appear scumhunting i guess..
rayn is already under fire and has much to answer to so I'll vote GB.
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I also don't understand much of the exchange last page
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What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.
As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit.
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On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?
Yeah i don't understand this at all
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On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.
As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit.
I mean why lie about why you are going away if you're town though?
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On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote + Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind. Why not? I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though.
Where is this quote from?
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On April 08 2018 22:07 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.
As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit. I mean why lie about why you are going away if you're town though?
I have some ideas but I'll let GB answer first.
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Leta hear who thinks i am bullshitting. Yes or no?
So far holyflare said yes.
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On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.
As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit.
What about points on rayn?
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On April 08 2018 22:14 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.
As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit. What about points on rayn?
As I understand it, you're accusing him of asking questions with no follow-up, particularly with regards to something about Damdred (?) and his posts towards currentlyhomeless. I think it's a valid point but then again, I am biased 
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On April 08 2018 22:18 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 22:14 Skynx wrote:On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.
As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit. What about points on rayn? As I understand it, you're accusing him of asking questions with no follow-up, particularly with regards to something about Damdred (?) and his posts towards currentlyhomeless. I think it's a valid point but then again, I am biased
Thats basically his intro to the thread, he's trying to appear as doing something but its actually two pointless questions which are then abandoned.
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On April 08 2018 22:10 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote: Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind. Why not? I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though. Where is this quote from?
Nvm i found it.
On April 08 2018 18:08 Calix wrote:
Have access to a keyboard, thank God.
Vivax might be mafia because of how he went about his GB read. First he says that "GB saying he can't post for a while after posting a bunch at the start of the day reads defensive to me" which is typically a mafia trait, and when Damdred questions this read and implies a negative view of Vivax because of it ("kinda a meh read from you"), Vivax's reaction is to call both GB AND Damdred town. Weird progression.
As I see it, it's one of these scenarios:
A) Vivax was always town-reading GB, in which case why did he make the comment about GB being defensive?
B) Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.
C) Some other scenario I haven't accounted for. However the two I listed were the ones that came to mind when I first read the exchange.
So yes, I'd like an explanation.
I also don't see how the reason he gave for Damdred being town ("I don't see why you wouldn't partially agree with me if you were mafia") is AI.
I agree that GlowingBear is more likely town than not. His posting reads as spontaneous and unplanned to me.
As for his case on me, it's dumb because I DID respond to his vote (after he actually gave reasons) and Eversince's assumption that it was a spite vote was more interesting than a naked vote.
I also want a response from Eversince that clarifies that random town-read she doled out to one of GB/ Calix. Both GB and I asked about that and she ignored both queries to post some irrelevant nonsense. So I am asking again.
Yeah Vivax' response is a bit weird. It looks like he has an idea that makes Damdred town in his own world but it doesn't really relate to GB. Not sure its scummy though.
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On April 08 2018 10:21 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 09:50 Vivax wrote:On April 08 2018 09:36 Damdred wrote:
I think gb is town btw Telling us he can't post for a while after posting a good amount already and it being the start of the day reads defensive to me. Yeah but why is it defensive if he is busy irl, thats kinda a meh read from you vivax. But really I feel like his thing hes doing with the thing he noticed about calix and dragging ever and rayn into it just seems town to me. Town for GB he generally cant fake enthusiasm like that as scum by my recollevtion.
Damdred looks good for Vivax part here but i don't agree with bolded.
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