EPTOn April 13 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
Look at this guy calculating how many mislynches are left.
Look at this guy calculating how many mislynches are left.
yea so smart
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On April 13 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote: Do you have any tangible reasons why vivax scum reads anybody in this game? I sure don't. If he stops whining about me to everyone in the game then he's forced to actually produce content. this was not the answer I expected but ok so you still think vivax is scum | ||
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On April 13 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote: Dunno really. I don't actually have a town read. I think I'm too blinded by him being this subpar. I want to lynch exo the most. I think. hf i think you are a smart person i think as town you would do the right thing here so why is it that you considered that rayn is scum wit a gun but didn’t consider that we can just lynch rayn tomorrow if rayn is scum and he has a gun, we just lose as soon as we mislynch one more. if we lynch rayn and rayn is actually town we go to LYLO sure but if we are wrong about rayn we lose that’s fucked | ||
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On April 13 2018 08:31 Vivax wrote: CH hold me I think FF made this game 6 S vs 3T the number of mafia in this game makes me think rayn is town but the optimal play is to policy lynch rayn maybe we need to play like scrubs too, then we can think next level and catch the real scum, cause they must also be scrubby this game like tube if you are town and think i am scum you really need to reread the game. i seriously dont see how anybody could consider me scum. i’m probably dead tn anyway so youll find out soon On April 13 2018 08:31 Holyflare wrote: Rather just lynch someone I actually think is mafia rather than a remote possibility. i feel like this is the most nonanswer answer you can give while still giving an answer i also dont feel like rayn is scum at this point. so i dont feel strong about a rayn policy lynch but it might actually be safer imo than killing say calix. skynx tube and exo all look similar to me. tube looks the best of the 3. and by best i literally mean i am townreading tube because his play looks the worst. i think at least one scum is in that pile. however the problem is that exo & skynx & calix literally makes no sense, and actually none of those players pairwise look scum & scum because of their interactions and votes. so if max 1 of them is scum we are missing 2 players somewhere else. unless they bussed semihard earlier in the game and are throwing us off i dont like using host actions for tells but i actually feel like damdred has a good chance of being scum here because he got replaced. if it was just a townie I think that would be a modkill | ||
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On April 13 2018 12:59 Vivax wrote: Really appreciate that feedback as a welcome change especially considering I'm playing a modestly assholeish almost like in old times but it's not calix, it's Oats. Calix softed blue I recently noticed so should die tonight is my guess. hf + rayn makes perfect sense though. Also explains why rayn hasn't been all over HF this game yet even after noticing him pushing me for some bs reason regarding the things that didn't add up about ES. Either way need to convince the townies that are corrupted by HFs charming malice which I would guess are calix tube and very tentatively skynx and even CH who was kind of my last bastion of hope before you showed up. Damdred slot is coinflippy but I still feel good about him from our early interaction and him speaking up against my lynch. Dunno, maybe you can come up with a way to drill through those skulls. in case it wasnt clear atm i’m not really townreading hf his play is too stupid to be town here imo and he freely admitted he isnt reading | ||
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On April 13 2018 15:00 Holyflare wrote: And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"? It's nice to throw out rhetoric but at least back it up. You listed exo as your scum read just like I did, you don't even scum read rayn (just like I do) but say we should lynch him, voted es today because it made sense. So why this now? ok this post right here, this is bs i listed exo as my scum read? when the fuck did i do that? at some point with ever being scum i thought exo was also scum but with ever flipping town that association is useless i even talked about how i am reading tube as town but i dont think more than one of skynx, exo, and calix can be scum guess you didnt read that huh | ||
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On April 13 2018 15:27 Holyflare wrote: Let's just forget this post is a giant dodge of the questions I asked so I'll repeat them. And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"? it wasnt a dodge, the reason i even said that very post was bs was because it is proof you werent reading that you think i said exo is scum. you also literally just went and cherry picked the only post where i call exo scummy in order to prove what exactly? that i did think exo was scum? i dont understand your motivation here to pick a fight with me if you are town, this literally only makes sense from scum hf which means its a complete waste of time for me to drag this out with you which btw you have done to other players in this game already, calix vivax etc. since i never quite understood why you were calling them scum i can see now with your interaction with me its cause you dont have solving the game as a purpose, you just want to create chaos and shit up the thread as for your evidence there isnt anything better than yor iwn words On April 12 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote: Also kush/homeless/whoever you are, it looks like I'm not reading to you because I'm not particularly reading. I just skim at work and phone post forever now instead. Not the hf of old. the scummiest shit about your most recent posts is youre trying to paint me as scum who cant back up what i say but this is happening post-flip on ever, who you agreed to kill, who i led killing. literally no one else noticed what i noticed about ever, because guess what, no one else is trying to figure out the fucking game this is actually why i townread rayn, he credited me when credit was due and so i actually dont think lynching him tomorrow has the best chance of hitting scum. thats why its a policy lynch cause in the offchance he is scum, we should kill him so we dont lose the fucking game since you just said you would rather not do this, you have automatically become scum to me bc town hf is smart enough to know this is the right play | ||
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On April 13 2018 15:43 Holyflare wrote: This entire conversation is even pointless. I haven't listed you as a scum read, I'm merely pointing out inconsistencies that you haven't even explained because you're trying to jump on the hf is mafia bandwagon. So explain them and get on my level. what kind of horseshit is this i agree, it is a waste of time. since you seem to already know rayn will flip scum, fuck the policy lynch, let’s lynch you tomorrow if i die tn pls lynch hf | ||
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On April 13 2018 15:48 Holyflare wrote: Exo is mafia because he has espoused all day and all night that I'm town non-stop and that he would sheep me. He acknowledges that I scum read Eversince but he thinks that she is NOT going to flip town but that's ok. So, when Eversince flipped town and everything in his mind should be confirmed and I haven't done anything differently he completely drops the read on me. He was even voting calix, the person that I cased and thought was the most likely to flip mafia if es was town. Apparently I have fallen off since day 1 but he shows no evidence that he ever thought that, no qualms about my play at all until multiple people start throwing my name around. Nothing should have changed for him. Combined with his es thoughts being the scummiest I am very sure he is mafia. can you point iut where he says you fall off the problem i have with you this game is that at times i actually completely agree with you and then you go off and be a complete dick for no reason and say stupid shit that makes me think you arent reading at all i cant keep a consistent read one way on you at all this game and it pisses me off | ||
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On April 13 2018 15:49 Holyflare wrote: Are you fucking stupid? How is it the best play if I don't think rayn is mafia to lynch rayn? you said it yourself if rayn has a gun we lose the only way to prevent a mislynch lose scenario on d3 is to kill the player who might have a gun cause hes scum and lied about not having it like yea we can go kill a scum too if we have a red check or some other semi confirmed shit but thats why the policy lynch is optimal, it makes sure we dont lose instantly | ||
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why would you call me stupid when the whole fucking time i have been saying its a policy lynch i even fucking agree with you, i actually dont really believe rayn would flip scum here. however my certainty is maybe 70-80%. it would need to be higher for me to say yea lets just risk the whole game. if rayn is town actually i expect he would agree with me here and actually help us win the game | ||
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On April 13 2018 15:54 Holyflare wrote: He's gone from saying he's sheeping me and I'm definitely town and he already thought Eversince was going to flip town : Nothing has changed at all. ok i see what you are saying now. and i agree, that flop makes no sense. do you think exo is the most likely player to flip scum at this point? do you still think vivax is scum? calix? i guess exo vivax calix is possible but i actually dont think vivax is scum here either | ||
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btw this whole game i have been phone posting so sorry for my shrtiy formatting and ranty thoughts. its a pain in the ass to go quote more than one or two things at once On April 13 2018 15:59 Holyflare wrote: I'm calling you stupid because you're saying it's the optimal play and aren't giving any other alternatives and you're arguing that it's the optimal play instead when you don't even scum read the guy. You're also calling me mafia. Which IS stupid. So talk about exo/skynx/calix/tube or just don't interact with me because I won't stop calling you stupid if you're going to call me mafia when I voted on the wagon that made sense yesterday. then dont imply i am mafia and then when called out back off with some shady shit. if you are town and you recognize youre just shitting up the thread then maybe its time to step back and consider that i am literally the only person consistently trying to figurethus game out. maybe if it semeed like you were trying to help me instead of jump down my throat i wouldnt be seeing red So talk about exo/skynx/calix/tube or just don't interact with me because I won't stop calling you stupid if you're going to call me mafia when I voted on the wagon that made sense yesterday. fine, lets consider alternatives from exo skynx calix tube i’m gonna throw tube out cause we’re not lynching him tomorrow of the remaining 3 like i said earlier probably only 1, max 2 can be scum. personally if i had to pick one right now it would be exo simply based on the two posts you showed just now. i never noticed the flop and its actually quite blatant. if you had asked me like an hour ago i would have said skynx. the reason is because I went back and reread gb’s posts to try and decipher why the fuck he would die n1 because it literally made no sense to me, i actually thought he had a good chance of being scum. gb was pretty suspicious of skynx and earlier on he was attacking calix too, but for the most part later his focus was skynx. and actually part of my doubt on rayn is also because one of the only other players that gb read as scum was rayn. however i think despite looking very similar, skynx has had way more pressure and attention for whatwver reason than exo. and for calix as i said before fuck reading calix’s posts. whats interesting though is that lately calix hasnt posted much on vivax, i toneread him pretty strongly town but actually in the back of my head i am bothered by how he seems to constantly be slow on the uptake for thread events like him not realising what i said about ever was a pretty bug wtf. rayn looked a lot better in my eyes when he gave me credit for it but vivax looked worse for not realising that it was me pushing ever for different reasoms than the initial claim problems but my gut reads vivax town and some of his posts gave e the feeling that he is actually trying to figure out the game and not scum faking. | ||
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On April 13 2018 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote: im actually not reading CH's stuff because no is it because you cant read or | ||
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On April 13 2018 16:52 Oatsmaster wrote: ch had a terrible day 1 also is this the reason you cant read my posts or are you saying i am scum too i feel like this is deja vu, i swear i said it before but gonna say it again me exo calix vivax all scumreads at the same time makes no fucking sense | ||
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On April 13 2018 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay i need Vivax, Tubesock and homeless to explain me this: After these posts on D2: Can you understand what happens here in case i am mafia, did not roleblock Eversince and in fact do have a gun? The fact that Eversince never managed to answer the question is irrelevant because that was not the expected outcome. So all three of you, explain the logic between "lynch rayn because he might have a gun and might be mafia"? Holyflare, since you are driven by logic, why are you letting this kind of discussion go on and on in the thread? holy shit i’m a baddie i have no idea why but i had to read this several times before i finally understood yea thank fuck actually the game makes a lot more sense now. we dont need to policy lynch you after all | ||
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100% serious, i’m actually relieved | ||
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On April 13 2018 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I possibly have a problem with Calix being mafia. Does anyone remember if there are people who voted for Calix and now think other people who voted for Calix last phase are mafia? you basically described everyone on calix ytd i think except maybe skynx oats for example wants to kill calix. but also exo who voted calix. skynx also still wants to kill calix but reads exo/calix as opposite alignments. iirc skynx townreads oats and scumreads tube? actually dont remember and too lazy to filter dive at this point exo was attacking skynx too and then tube I just ignore cause i’m townreading him but pretty sure he also attacked all 3 of skynx exo calix together at some point. i vaguely remember i even called him out on it. or maybe it was skynx, who the fuck knows at this point | ||
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On April 13 2018 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: It doesn't make any sense a person who was on Calix does now want to kill other people on Calix, because if Calix is mafia (which they should automaticvally still think as nothing has changed) they are less likely to be mafia since the vote was super close (aka Eversince who should get an action taken on her after game for playing against her wincondition) could have get Calix lynched. by they, you mean each other? they obviously all can’t be scum, this was the same thing. i was saying earlier. literally makes no sense for someone to scumread someone else who has the same scumreads as you. but literally all of them do | ||
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On April 13 2018 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: It does make sense to scumread other people who scumread the same people you do, it all depends on reasoning. But there was perfect reasoning for Eversince to be mafia so in itself people voting for calix instead is fishy in my opinion. But if you go further on with this, why would you now scumread the people who SHARED your opinion of the unlikely scenario where Eversince flips town, especially when Eversince was an easy place to place a vote on if you are mafia -- when the alternative is your scumbuddy Calix. And Eversince can just kill mafia!Calix only by saving herself which is an expected outcome anyways lol. It doesn't make anys sense. actually i think the hammer had to be damdred or someone switching from ever to calix. iirc we had 5 on ever right. then ever comes and votes herself and makes it 6. even if ever voted calix the vote wouldve been tied and it would be up to the afk player to decide the vote i do get what you mean though. basically on tone tube & oats came out townier for me, while both exo and skynx look scummier. like between those 4 who voted calix i think its max 2 scum. theres no way they are all scum otherwise the infighting makes no sense, no team buses that hard although actually bussing more cleanly explains it rofl | ||
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