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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 24 2018 00:10 GMT
#3241
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 06:56 GMT
#3242
On April 24 2018 08:08 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw in what situation would I claim before tube?

even after tube claims, the only remote possibility of me claiming is if I actually believed that role balance made one of exo or tube scum.

and even if I did do that, from everyone else’s perspective that would mean there is minimum one scum among 5 people: me, exo, tube, you, rayn. 1 scum to 5 town is a worse ratio than the actual random lynch odds. Even if two scum are in that pile, which I had no reason to believe, it would be 2 to 5 which is much better but still doesn’t guarantee a scum lynch i.e. there’s one or two scum between me & exo & tube and one or zero between you & HF if there are 2 among 5.

I don’t see why I would ever claim there. Just because others claimed is a pretty awful reason given how terrible the other 3 claim timings were.


If you claimed on the day of the blues, like you should have done, there'd be mafia between me and rayn and one of the blues.

I don't think I'd ever believe someone that typed a whole wall of text on balance could believe that we'd have a vet that can stop kp, a jk that can save someone or block kp (jk is pretty broken) and a gunsmith that can give kp. That's potential on the end of n2 to have stopped two bullets and killed a mafia. Straight up broken. Yet you believed 4 blues was balanced in this instance.

Furthermore, you only claimed when rayn was surely up for lynch and I noticed you start throwing shade on tube well before this. This suggested two things:

1. Rayn was a role that stopped you from killing tube.
2. You had to claim because tube and I would never lynch calix and we were guaranteed to lynch you.

Your posts throughout that cycle were completely opportune. You neglected to ever look into rayn's hypocrisy and repeatedly tried to use it against calix and myself. Your 180 on me didn't make sense in the slightest since all I said was "you could be town" but never actually did any kind of commitment whereas you'd been sold on rayn being town throughout the game.

I don't believe your jk targets either. Sure, you thought vivax was towny n1 but you were just about the only person who did think that. The other person thinking that was rayn, who was mafia. So to protect vivax n1 was straight up dumb.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 07:52 GMT
#3243
Especially if you thought I was mafia then I'm hard pushing vivax and he would never ever be shot.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:12 GMT
#3244
On April 24 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2018 08:08 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw in what situation would I claim before tube?

even after tube claims, the only remote possibility of me claiming is if I actually believed that role balance made one of exo or tube scum.

and even if I did do that, from everyone else’s perspective that would mean there is minimum one scum among 5 people: me, exo, tube, you, rayn. 1 scum to 5 town is a worse ratio than the actual random lynch odds. Even if two scum are in that pile, which I had no reason to believe, it would be 2 to 5 which is much better but still doesn’t guarantee a scum lynch i.e. there’s one or two scum between me & exo & tube and one or zero between you & HF if there are 2 among 5.

I don’t see why I would ever claim there. Just because others claimed is a pretty awful reason given how terrible the other 3 claim timings were.


If you claimed on the day of the blues, like you should have done, there'd be mafia between me and rayn and one of the blues.

I don't think I'd ever believe someone that typed a whole wall of text on balance could believe that we'd have a vet that can stop kp, a jk that can save someone or block kp (jk is pretty broken) and a gunsmith that can give kp. That's potential on the end of n2 to have stopped two bullets and killed a mafia. Straight up broken. Yet you believed 4 blues was balanced in this instance.

Furthermore, you only claimed when rayn was surely up for lynch and I noticed you start throwing shade on tube well before this. This suggested two things:

1. Rayn was a role that stopped you from killing tube.
2. You had to claim because tube and I would never lynch calix and we were guaranteed to lynch you.

Your posts throughout that cycle were completely opportune. You neglected to ever look into rayn's hypocrisy and repeatedly tried to use it against calix and myself. Your 180 on me didn't make sense in the slightest since all I said was "you could be town" but never actually did any kind of commitment whereas you'd been sold on rayn being town throughout the game.

I don't believe your jk targets either. Sure, you thought vivax was towny n1 but you were just about the only person who did think that. The other person thinking that was rayn, who was mafia. So to protect vivax n1 was straight up dumb.


I talked about balance when there were more blues than that in the suggested setups. I guess you didn’t actually read the thread when I was responding to it at that time or you’d know that.

Anyway none of the rest actually matters cause that’s what you see after you’ve already assumed I’m mafia.

Lastly the Vivax thing is pretty hilarious to say when apparently you as scum would not kill someone you are hard pushing yet the same doesn’t apply to me for some reason? Why would I kill GB n1, who I was hard pushing?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:14 GMT
#3245
Anyway none of the above matters now, it’s actually a complete waste of time.

Just look at what tube just posted. Remember what I said last night? He actually fell for that trap. You’re smart enough to figure out on your own what that means.

And if not then of course we lose.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 08:20 GMT
#3246
What trap?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:22 GMT
#3247
btw.

did you actually read my balance posts?

[quote]
Then SK + Jailor + cop + veteran would probably be balanced because there is sufficient anti-KP/faction balance and there are no breaking claim strategies.


replace SK with gunsmith and see what happens?[/b]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 08:22 GMT
#3248
On April 24 2018 17:12 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 24 2018 08:08 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw in what situation would I claim before tube?

even after tube claims, the only remote possibility of me claiming is if I actually believed that role balance made one of exo or tube scum.

and even if I did do that, from everyone else’s perspective that would mean there is minimum one scum among 5 people: me, exo, tube, you, rayn. 1 scum to 5 town is a worse ratio than the actual random lynch odds. Even if two scum are in that pile, which I had no reason to believe, it would be 2 to 5 which is much better but still doesn’t guarantee a scum lynch i.e. there’s one or two scum between me & exo & tube and one or zero between you & HF if there are 2 among 5.

I don’t see why I would ever claim there. Just because others claimed is a pretty awful reason given how terrible the other 3 claim timings were.


If you claimed on the day of the blues, like you should have done, there'd be mafia between me and rayn and one of the blues.

I don't think I'd ever believe someone that typed a whole wall of text on balance could believe that we'd have a vet that can stop kp, a jk that can save someone or block kp (jk is pretty broken) and a gunsmith that can give kp. That's potential on the end of n2 to have stopped two bullets and killed a mafia. Straight up broken. Yet you believed 4 blues was balanced in this instance.

Furthermore, you only claimed when rayn was surely up for lynch and I noticed you start throwing shade on tube well before this. This suggested two things:

1. Rayn was a role that stopped you from killing tube.
2. You had to claim because tube and I would never lynch calix and we were guaranteed to lynch you.

Your posts throughout that cycle were completely opportune. You neglected to ever look into rayn's hypocrisy and repeatedly tried to use it against calix and myself. Your 180 on me didn't make sense in the slightest since all I said was "you could be town" but never actually did any kind of commitment whereas you'd been sold on rayn being town throughout the game.

I don't believe your jk targets either. Sure, you thought vivax was towny n1 but you were just about the only person who did think that. The other person thinking that was rayn, who was mafia. So to protect vivax n1 was straight up dumb.


I talked about balance when there were more blues than that in the suggested setups. I guess you didn’t actually read the thread when I was responding to it at that time or you’d know that.

Anyway none of the rest actually matters cause that’s what you see after you’ve already assumed I’m mafia.

Lastly the Vivax thing is pretty hilarious to say when apparently you as scum would not kill someone you are hard pushing yet the same doesn’t apply to me for some reason? Why would I kill GB n1, who I was hard pushing?


This isn't the argument I'm putting forth though is it? My argument is that why would you protect somebody that nobody was town reading and your scum read was scum reading. Your argument seems to be why would you kill gb if you were mafia. Not the same at all.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:23 GMT
#3249
derp


Then SK + Jailor + cop + veteran would probably be balanced because there is sufficient anti-KP/faction balance and there are no breaking claim strategies.


Gunsmith is town-affiliated, sure, but given that it’s half the KP it’s not like it is broken.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 08:23 GMT
#3250
[QUOTE]On April 24 2018 17:22 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw.

did you actually read my balance posts?

[quote]
Then SK + Jailor + cop + veteran would probably be balanced because there is sufficient anti-KP/faction balance and there are no breaking claim strategies.


replace SK with gunsmith and see what happens?[/QUOTE]

Replace a third party that arbitrarily kills anyone with a town gunsmith claimable role that gives town kp? Not really. [/b]
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:24 GMT
#3251
On April 24 2018 17:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2018 17:12 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 24 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 24 2018 08:08 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw in what situation would I claim before tube?

even after tube claims, the only remote possibility of me claiming is if I actually believed that role balance made one of exo or tube scum.

and even if I did do that, from everyone else’s perspective that would mean there is minimum one scum among 5 people: me, exo, tube, you, rayn. 1 scum to 5 town is a worse ratio than the actual random lynch odds. Even if two scum are in that pile, which I had no reason to believe, it would be 2 to 5 which is much better but still doesn’t guarantee a scum lynch i.e. there’s one or two scum between me & exo & tube and one or zero between you & HF if there are 2 among 5.

I don’t see why I would ever claim there. Just because others claimed is a pretty awful reason given how terrible the other 3 claim timings were.


If you claimed on the day of the blues, like you should have done, there'd be mafia between me and rayn and one of the blues.

I don't think I'd ever believe someone that typed a whole wall of text on balance could believe that we'd have a vet that can stop kp, a jk that can save someone or block kp (jk is pretty broken) and a gunsmith that can give kp. That's potential on the end of n2 to have stopped two bullets and killed a mafia. Straight up broken. Yet you believed 4 blues was balanced in this instance.

Furthermore, you only claimed when rayn was surely up for lynch and I noticed you start throwing shade on tube well before this. This suggested two things:

1. Rayn was a role that stopped you from killing tube.
2. You had to claim because tube and I would never lynch calix and we were guaranteed to lynch you.

Your posts throughout that cycle were completely opportune. You neglected to ever look into rayn's hypocrisy and repeatedly tried to use it against calix and myself. Your 180 on me didn't make sense in the slightest since all I said was "you could be town" but never actually did any kind of commitment whereas you'd been sold on rayn being town throughout the game.

I don't believe your jk targets either. Sure, you thought vivax was towny n1 but you were just about the only person who did think that. The other person thinking that was rayn, who was mafia. So to protect vivax n1 was straight up dumb.


I talked about balance when there were more blues than that in the suggested setups. I guess you didn’t actually read the thread when I was responding to it at that time or you’d know that.

Anyway none of the rest actually matters cause that’s what you see after you’ve already assumed I’m mafia.

Lastly the Vivax thing is pretty hilarious to say when apparently you as scum would not kill someone you are hard pushing yet the same doesn’t apply to me for some reason? Why would I kill GB n1, who I was hard pushing?


This isn't the argument I'm putting forth though is it? My argument is that why would you protect somebody that nobody was town reading and your scum read was scum reading. Your argument seems to be why would you kill gb if you were mafia. Not the same at all.


Why would I protect someone I was townreading????

He was literally my #1 townread, for all I cared everyone else on d1 could go fuck themselves.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 08:24 GMT
#3252
You're gonna have to prove to me why tube is mafia I'm afraid.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:28 GMT
#3253
[QUOTE]On April 24 2018 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 24 2018 17:22 currentlyhomeless wrote:
btw.

did you actually read my balance posts?

[quote]
Then SK + Jailor + cop + veteran would probably be balanced because there is sufficient anti-KP/faction balance and there are no breaking claim strategies.


replace SK with gunsmith and see what happens?[/QUOTE]

Replace a third party that arbitrarily kills anyone with a town gunsmith claimable role that gives town kp? Not really. [/QUOTE]

so you don’t understand my stance on balance re:KP but you are using it to claim I am mafia anyway. lololol

anyway I find this a pointless waste of time, tube scum claimed on the previous page and for whatever reason you’re still trying to convince yourself your shitty read on me is good by arguing with me[/b]
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:30 GMT
#3254
On April 24 2018 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
You're gonna have to prove to me why tube is mafia I'm afraid.


why would a townie say he’s not gonna change change his mind in this situation.

just think about what I said last night (which you noticed!)

I actually did not expect that bluff to work at all actually
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 08:32 GMT
#3255
like is he gonna change his mind about you?

what does that mean about his understanding of the game? lol
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 10:27 GMT
#3256
It was clearly a joke?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 24 2018 10:49 GMT
#3257
On April 24 2018 19:27 Holyflare wrote:
It was clearly a joke?


clearly

😂

anyway I’m done, just another few more hours till the game finally ends
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 11:41 GMT
#3258
Tube why shouldn't I vote you? Everything in your filter is surrounding rayn. A classic mafia subconscious trait.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 24 2018 17:40 GMT
#3259
##vote tubesock

i figured it out
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 24 2018 18:39 GMT
#3260
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