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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 10:25 GMT
#2541
On April 16 2018 19:23 ExO_ wrote:
HF or Rayn, b/c one of them is scum


Who do you think could be scum with them?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 10:50 GMT
#2542
On April 16 2018 19:23 ExO_ wrote:
HF or Rayn, b/c one of them is scum


1. which one is more likely to be scum between the 2?

now that skynx flipped town i personally think hf is more likely to be scum than town and i was wrong about them both being town. however tbh the one thing keeping me from saying he’s def scum is that i dont think scum will kill any townies between you, hf and rayn so we will have to pick later and until you flip my tinfoil is that you could be scum. i dont see why they couldnt just rb you forever if you are town.

2. let’s pretend hf is scum. who is scum with him?

3. let’s pretend hf is not scum. who is scum instead?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 16 2018 11:03 GMT
#2543
On April 16 2018 18:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:43 Calix wrote:
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?


sure.

me tube and rayn are confirmed. exo is 70% town.

that leaves you, oats, vivax, hf.

of those players you are 100% scum and the others are equally likely at this point.


U fooking wut m8?
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 16 2018 11:04 GMT
#2544
Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.


lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:07 GMT
#2545
On April 16 2018 20:04 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.


lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be.


Wait, I'm not sure which names go with which mafia player possibility. Formatting unclear.

Also if you are not shot tonight then you will get your wish tomorrow. Because town all has to vote together and you will never vote for anyone outside of those two.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 16 2018 11:08 GMT
#2546
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:09 GMT
#2547
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 16 2018 11:16 GMT
#2548
On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?


Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it.

Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 16 2018 11:17 GMT
#2549
On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?


I read the last few pages but didn’t really read them. I’m in a weird tinfoily world right now.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 11:20 GMT
#2550
On April 16 2018 20:04 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.


lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be.


wait what.

if gf is in game and rayn is also scum how would they return opposite alignments

you scum bro?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 11:21 GMT
#2551
oh i’m retarded.

you mean hf and rayn are both scum and one of them is gf.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 16 2018 11:23 GMT
#2552
I could yolo rayn tomorrow too. I think Oats is better.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:26 GMT
#2553
On April 16 2018 20:16 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?


Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it.

Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had.


For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value.

As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 16 2018 11:30 GMT
#2554
On April 16 2018 20:26 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 20:16 Tubesock wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?


Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it.

Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had.


For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value.

As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there


Yeah there really was a zero chance scum rayn would use his gun unless it ended the game. Plus, I think mafia would have been dumb to not rb ES there. Town folk lie all the time about who they’re giving toys to.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 16 2018 11:38 GMT
#2555
On April 16 2018 20:07 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 20:04 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.


lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be.


Wait, I'm not sure which names go with which mafia player possibility. Formatting unclear.

Also if you are not shot tonight then you will get your wish tomorrow. Because town all has to vote together and you will never vote for anyone outside of those two.


If there GF in game:

Rayn/HF/CH

If no GF:

Rayn/CH/Oats
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 16 2018 11:46 GMT
#2556
On April 16 2018 20:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 20:26 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:16 Tubesock wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?


Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it.

Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had.


For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value.

As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there


Yeah there really was a zero chance scum rayn would use his gun unless it ended the game. Plus, I think mafia would have been dumb to not rb ES there. Town folk lie all the time about who they’re giving toys to.


You’re seriously suggesting ES lied about who he gave gun to? Really? Did you read ES.

Game is over if there’s framer. Here’s the Scenarios:

Assume Scum can’t have Role Blocker AND Framer.

1) Scum have Framer, not RB. This means Rayn has a gun, and lied about not having it. No town motivation to lie about it.

2) Assume Role Blocker not framer: This means my cop check cannot be wrong. Means HF or Rayn is scum, and if one is GF both are.

We have to hope scum has role blocker and blocked ES night 1.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 16 2018 11:48 GMT
#2557
We’re fucking idiots for not realizing this until now. Framer means Rayn lied about not having gun. Anybody saying my check had to be wrong, should have also been suggesting Rayn is a liar.

How the fuck did we not realize this sooner
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 11:49 GMT
#2558
Tubesock's saying that mafia would always roleblock Eversince since Eversince MIGHT have changed her mind about who to give the gun to. He isn't saying that anyone else has a gun.

As for your scum-team theories, can't complain
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 16 2018 11:51 GMT
#2559
On April 16 2018 20:46 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 20:30 Tubesock wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:26 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:16 Tubesock wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.

I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.

Bleh.


You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts?


Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it.

Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had.


For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value.

As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there


Yeah there really was a zero chance scum rayn would use his gun unless it ended the game. Plus, I think mafia would have been dumb to not rb ES there. Town folk lie all the time about who they’re giving toys to.


You’re seriously suggesting ES lied about who he gave gun to? Really? Did you read ES.

Game is over if there’s framer. Here’s the Scenarios:

Assume Scum can’t have Role Blocker AND Framer.

1) Scum have Framer, not RB. This means Rayn has a gun, and lied about not having it. No town motivation to lie about it.

2) Assume Role Blocker not framer: This means my cop check cannot be wrong. Means HF or Rayn is scum, and if one is GF both are.

We have to hope scum has role blocker and blocked ES night 1.


Sigh. No that’s not what I was saying. Jesus. And ES is a fucking woman.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 16 2018 11:51 GMT
#2560
Then why the fuck isnt TS screaming for Rayns head. If you believe in Role Blocker, you believe my check. There’s no alternative here
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