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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:26 GMT
#2521
On April 16 2018 18:22 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:13 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:00 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 17:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 17:47 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 17:40 currentlyhomeless wrote:
rayn’s wall of text has some weird shit in it but actually i think it makes more sense if he is town than if he is scum.

the weirdest shit in there are the exo and calix reads. i have a hard time believing scum would write that shit. exo is playing shitty but theres no way a scum wiuld come in eod and claim exo is scum here imo. thats too ballsy. the simpler explanation is that rayn is town and omgusing exo a bit too hard since he was complaining about exo and vivax reading him incorrectly before

the self lynch shit and the reaction after i also dont think scum would post.

really though the real reason rayn cant be scum here is because of the way the gun fallout occurred. like there is literally 0 reason rayn would as scum try to confirm whether ever was telling the truth, then proceed to explain to everyone else why ever was scummy. given these same actions also proved he doesnt have a gun, assuming the game doesnt end tn (ie we havent already lost) then it becomes further very unlikely he was scum because that means scum rbed ever. if rayn was scum when the only indication was that ever woild give the gun to rayn, scum would not have rbed ever.

moving on, actually the scummiest posts in recency are yours Calix.

posting right before flip that you think skynx might be town?
posting right after flip with no emotion and throwing in a line about “if mafia doesnt shoot me”? i see what you did there. theres no way you would die tn even if you are town, everybody fucking knows that

rayn is a pretty easy target tmrw but given that hes basically confirmed town that makes you scum


Defending a scum buddy? You didn’t use the “too bad to be scum” argument with Skynx or Ever so why does Rayn suddenly get a pass? Lol. Nothing you said actually makes him town, let alone confirmed town.

I am not buying role WIFOM as a reason to read anyone. And there is no way that someone looks at Rayn’s recent posts and conclude “super townie” like ever.


anyone reading this exchange who doubts whether calix is scum

please tell me where i called rayn too bad to be scum


Your opening lines? Technically “too weird to be scum” but my point stands that your defense of the post is bad.

To give an example, you say that “scum wouldn’t post the self lynch stuff” (why didn’t you say this for Skynx when he literally self voted?) when Rayn had no votes and Skynx had like 5. So it’s a really easy thing for scum to say.

And he would scum read ExO because that’s been his scum read since SOD3 so why wouldn’t he continue that read?

Writing on phone is hard lemme find a computer


theres a huge difference between self voting when you are already dead and claiming youll kill yourself to make a point when youre not in any danger of dying

skynx voting himself is completely null because he was already fucking dead. mafia bus each other and disappear from the thread when they are about to die too just like skynx disappeared. why would any scum invite attention to tjemselves by saying they will self lynch to prove a point when they have no votes on them

as for the continuation of the exo read, he did continue his read??? you claim im writing bs but you just wrote something that fucking proves my point


Uh no. Skynx voted for himself and PUT HIMSELF AHEAD OF HOLYFLARE as of voting. You are just making shit up, fam.

You said you didn't get why mafia would "come in at EOD and say ExO is scum" and I answered by saying he was already reading ExO as scum so him coming in and making zero progression in his read is easy as fuck for a mafia to do. You looked at something that doesn't mean much for his alignment and concluded it makes him town. Agenda driving at its finest.


more bs

at the time he has 3 votes and he self votes making it 4 even if it gives him the lead to me i thought if hes scum he knows hes dead. as soon as people started leaving hf and voting skynx i was pretty sure i had a solid case on him. if i thiught that then i figured scum knew he was dead too.

so why would i fucking change my read at that point

knowinf that he flipped town doesnt fucking change that because at the time i didnt know he would flip town


So you admit I'm right but shift the goalposts from "Skynx self-voted when he was already dead" (which I disproved and your rebuttal is still incorrect since mafia could have lynched into the checks/ cop instead) to "Skynx self-voting wouldn't make me change my read" (nobody said you should have changed your read so this is just a diversion).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 16 2018 09:26 GMT
#2522
I really have no idea what you guys are arguing about. Rayn's post was bad and you should feel bad for liking it. Trying to confirm a blue doesn't make him town and is well within his scum read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 16 2018 09:26 GMT
#2523
Range*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 16 2018 09:27 GMT
#2524
But oats is the best lynch. Eventually mafia will have to kill into me/rayn/exo.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:28 GMT
#2525
On April 16 2018 18:26 Holyflare wrote:
I really have no idea what you guys are arguing about. Rayn's post was bad and you should feel bad for liking it. Trying to confirm a blue doesn't make him town and is well within his scum read.


I called CH's post scummy for the horrible rayn defense and we are now saber-rattling. I call it saber-rattling because he's mafia and I'm countering the bullshit he's saying for fun.

Also so people know that he's mafia.

But mostly for fun.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 16 2018 09:35 GMT
#2526
But we agree we're lynching oats right?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 09:36 GMT
#2527
On April 16 2018 18:26 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:22 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:13 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:00 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 17:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 17:47 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 17:40 currentlyhomeless wrote:
rayn’s wall of text has some weird shit in it but actually i think it makes more sense if he is town than if he is scum.

the weirdest shit in there are the exo and calix reads. i have a hard time believing scum would write that shit. exo is playing shitty but theres no way a scum wiuld come in eod and claim exo is scum here imo. thats too ballsy. the simpler explanation is that rayn is town and omgusing exo a bit too hard since he was complaining about exo and vivax reading him incorrectly before

the self lynch shit and the reaction after i also dont think scum would post.

really though the real reason rayn cant be scum here is because of the way the gun fallout occurred. like there is literally 0 reason rayn would as scum try to confirm whether ever was telling the truth, then proceed to explain to everyone else why ever was scummy. given these same actions also proved he doesnt have a gun, assuming the game doesnt end tn (ie we havent already lost) then it becomes further very unlikely he was scum because that means scum rbed ever. if rayn was scum when the only indication was that ever woild give the gun to rayn, scum would not have rbed ever.

moving on, actually the scummiest posts in recency are yours Calix.

posting right before flip that you think skynx might be town?
posting right after flip with no emotion and throwing in a line about “if mafia doesnt shoot me”? i see what you did there. theres no way you would die tn even if you are town, everybody fucking knows that

rayn is a pretty easy target tmrw but given that hes basically confirmed town that makes you scum


Defending a scum buddy? You didn’t use the “too bad to be scum” argument with Skynx or Ever so why does Rayn suddenly get a pass? Lol. Nothing you said actually makes him town, let alone confirmed town.

I am not buying role WIFOM as a reason to read anyone. And there is no way that someone looks at Rayn’s recent posts and conclude “super townie” like ever.


anyone reading this exchange who doubts whether calix is scum

please tell me where i called rayn too bad to be scum


Your opening lines? Technically “too weird to be scum” but my point stands that your defense of the post is bad.

To give an example, you say that “scum wouldn’t post the self lynch stuff” (why didn’t you say this for Skynx when he literally self voted?) when Rayn had no votes and Skynx had like 5. So it’s a really easy thing for scum to say.

And he would scum read ExO because that’s been his scum read since SOD3 so why wouldn’t he continue that read?

Writing on phone is hard lemme find a computer


theres a huge difference between self voting when you are already dead and claiming youll kill yourself to make a point when youre not in any danger of dying

skynx voting himself is completely null because he was already fucking dead. mafia bus each other and disappear from the thread when they are about to die too just like skynx disappeared. why would any scum invite attention to tjemselves by saying they will self lynch to prove a point when they have no votes on them

as for the continuation of the exo read, he did continue his read??? you claim im writing bs but you just wrote something that fucking proves my point


Uh no. Skynx voted for himself and PUT HIMSELF AHEAD OF HOLYFLARE as of voting. You are just making shit up, fam.

You said you didn't get why mafia would "come in at EOD and say ExO is scum" and I answered by saying he was already reading ExO as scum so him coming in and making zero progression in his read is easy as fuck for a mafia to do. You looked at something that doesn't mean much for his alignment and concluded it makes him town. Agenda driving at its finest.


more bs

at the time he has 3 votes and he self votes making it 4 even if it gives him the lead to me i thought if hes scum he knows hes dead. as soon as people started leaving hf and voting skynx i was pretty sure i had a solid case on him. if i thiught that then i figured scum knew he was dead too.

so why would i fucking change my read at that point

knowinf that he flipped town doesnt fucking change that because at the time i didnt know he would flip town


So you admit I'm right but shift the goalposts from "Skynx self-voted when he was already dead" (which I disproved and your rebuttal is still incorrect since mafia could have lynched into the checks/ cop instead) to "Skynx self-voting wouldn't make me change my read" (nobody said you should have changed your read so this is just a diversion).


ok again for everyone else reading this

calix says there is no difference between a self vote when someone already has votes on them.
what skynx did
vs talking about killing yourself to make a point.
what rayn did.

i say that voting yourself when you are pretty much dead is not the same thing as saying you will kill yourself when you are literally in no danger to die. rayn had 0 fucking votes, skynx had 3.

i say that based on how the wagon was going it was pretty clear to anyone watching that momentum was shifting to skynx even though the votes were tied when he self voted. meaning everyone including obviously skynx himself, because he fucking self voted, knew he was gonna die.

and this is somehow moving goalposts.

then the part about changing reads. obviously calix was implying i should townread someone if they self vote based in what i said. so this is another misrepresentation. this part by itself proves that calix isnt being trithful here because we wouldnt be talkig about this otherwise

anyway w/e. i am clearly talking to scum so since ive made my point im not gonna bother helping scum shit up the thread more
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:37 GMT
#2528
I'm only voting for a scum-read that all my town-reads agree is mafia. So yeah, I can lynch Oats.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 09:39 GMT
#2529
and yeah sure mafia could lynch into the cop claim. what kind of bs statement is that, no one wanted to lynch exo except rayn and hf
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:40 GMT
#2530
You called me scum from square one so bickering with me after you got called out and then whining about 'not helping scum shit up the thread more' is hilarious.

I can agree to stop though since HF didn't have a clue what we were on about.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 09:42 GMT
#2531
On April 16 2018 18:40 Calix wrote:
You called me scum from square one so bickering with me after you got called out and then whining about 'not helping scum shit up the thread more' is hilarious.

I can agree to stop though since HF didn't have a clue what we were on about.


oh look more projection

i am pointing out your misrepresentations so you get lynched

you are just failing at discrediting me
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:42 GMT
#2532
On April 16 2018 18:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:
and yeah sure mafia could lynch into the cop claim. what kind of bs statement is that, no one wanted to lynch exo except rayn and hf


So two of your town-reads + three mafia = five votes when nine people were alive, and then you say ExO couldn't have been lynched in this nonsensical world you're building here??????

REALLY?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:43 GMT
#2533
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 09:48 GMT
#2534
On April 16 2018 18:42 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:
and yeah sure mafia could lynch into the cop claim. what kind of bs statement is that, no one wanted to lynch exo except rayn and hf


So two of your town-reads + three mafia = five votes when nine people were alive, and then you say ExO couldn't have been lynched in this nonsensical world you're building here??????

REALLY?


ding ding ding baited

hf WANTED to lynch exo. and then quickly townread him based on the timing, though i think he is fully capable of doing even as scum but at any rate that literally meant only rayn wanted to kill exo.

which by the way also makes complete fucking sense if they are both town, because they were as far as i could tell town reading each other. so a check that comes back 1-1 makes the cop scummy to them.

not to mention scum are probably fully aware that trying to lynch an uncced blue is fucking suicidal, especially all 3 on the same wagon, cause they would know the outcome of the flip. they would basically out themselves unless someone cced exo.

but you are trying to say exo was definitely an easy lynch yesterday? gtfo
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 09:49 GMT
#2535
On April 16 2018 18:43 Calix wrote:
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?


sure.

me tube and rayn are confirmed. exo is 70% town.

that leaves you, oats, vivax, hf.

of those players you are 100% scum and the others are equally likely at this point.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 09:55 GMT
#2536
On April 16 2018 18:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:43 Calix wrote:
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?


sure.

me tube and rayn are confirmed. exo is 70% town.

that leaves you, oats, vivax, hf.

of those players you are 100% scum and the others are equally likely at this point.


Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Rayn is not confirmed at all and I'm not mafia, let alone "100% scum".

I'm noting that you have not tried to find a world that makes sense. Probably because a world with Calix/ Vivax/ HF or Calix/ Oats/ Vivax or Calix/ Oats/ HF or whatever falls apart like a house of cards.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 09:56 GMT
#2537
so pls whoever is town between HF & vivax & oats

sheep tube, me, rayn, and exo, whichever 3 of us is alive tomorrow

i guarantee scum will shoot into one of us 4. probably tube lives since hes vet so sheep tube for sure
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 16 2018 10:10 GMT
#2538
On April 16 2018 18:55 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:43 Calix wrote:
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?


sure.

me tube and rayn are confirmed. exo is 70% town.

that leaves you, oats, vivax, hf.

of those players you are 100% scum and the others are equally likely at this point.


Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Rayn is not confirmed at all and I'm not mafia, let alone "100% scum".

I'm noting that you have not tried to find a world that makes sense. Probably because a world with Calix/ Vivax/ HF or Calix/ Oats/ Vivax or Calix/ Oats/ HF or whatever falls apart like a house of cards.


actually all of those scum teams make sense

esp due to the d2 vote, someone was probably bussing Calix d2 cause scum almost never 100% aligns their votes in a 2 wagon scenario. since skynx flipped and tube & exo are prob town that means oats is likely to be scum.

exo is 70% cause if he is still alive on d5 it was probably a fake claim. so that will resolve itself since if he’s alive d4 hes more likely to be scum but he’s not the most likely.

assuming exo is town the real question is whether its vivax or hf who is the last one. simplest answer is its HF and vivax is just not able to read but vivax has been playing antitown all fucking game. anyway i’ll be dead before we have to make a decision on hf & vivax and i guarantee they will still be alive d5/d6 since there is no way scum will shoot the townie among the two before then

in the offchance that scum didnt bus calix at all d2 then the team is calix & vivax & hf and we probably lost

although calix & vivax & hf would push oats here since that would be a perfect win and the ballsy scum approach would have already worked so far.

but anyway

tube rayn exo who do you think is the best lynch tomorrow
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 16 2018 10:23 GMT
#2539
On April 16 2018 19:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 18:55 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:49 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 16 2018 18:43 Calix wrote:
I have an idea. Why don't you tell us what your scum team theory is and explain how it makes sense? I think that would probably help the rest of the thread, don't you think?


sure.

me tube and rayn are confirmed. exo is 70% town.

that leaves you, oats, vivax, hf.

of those players you are 100% scum and the others are equally likely at this point.


Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true. Rayn is not confirmed at all and I'm not mafia, let alone "100% scum".

I'm noting that you have not tried to find a world that makes sense. Probably because a world with Calix/ Vivax/ HF or Calix/ Oats/ Vivax or Calix/ Oats/ HF or whatever falls apart like a house of cards.


actually all of those scum teams make sense

esp due to the d2 vote, someone was probably bussing Calix d2 cause scum almost never 100% aligns their votes in a 2 wagon scenario. since skynx flipped and tube & exo are prob town that means oats is likely to be scum.

exo is 70% cause if he is still alive on d5 it was probably a fake claim. so that will resolve itself since if he’s alive d4 hes more likely to be scum but he’s not the most likely.

assuming exo is town the real question is whether its vivax or hf who is the last one. simplest answer is its HF and vivax is just not able to read but vivax has been playing antitown all fucking game. anyway i’ll be dead before we have to make a decision on hf & vivax and i guarantee they will still be alive d5/d6 since there is no way scum will shoot the townie among the two before then

in the offchance that scum didnt bus calix at all d2 then the team is calix & vivax & hf and we probably lost

although calix & vivax & hf would push oats here since that would be a perfect win and the ballsy scum approach would have already worked so far.

but anyway

tube rayn exo who do you think is the best lynch tomorrow


Now that I've actually thought about night kills, I think ExO is most likely to die tonight. Or else there's some shit going down with this game tbh.

Nah. Calix/ Vivax means I tried to lynch mafia at EOD1 before botching the bus for ???reasons???. Calix and Oats is not a thing since Oats would have thrown away his vote by voting for me every single day without trying to vote for a 'mislynch' once iirc. Calix/ HF is the only one I can actually see someone observing the game going "that could work" since we agree on a lot of things.

But it's still not that logical and if I don't make sense with anyone else then it doesn't matter.

I am ride-or-die with town!Vivax at this point so FMPOV there are only four worlds that can make sense. And since I'm fairly sure HF is town because of lots of mind-melding stuff, that just leaves you/ rayn/ Oats.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 16 2018 10:23 GMT
#2540
HF or Rayn, b/c one of them is scum
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