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On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon.
Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town.
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On April 12 2018 03:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 03:40 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:30 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax says "hf is attacking obvious townies es/rayn/damdred" after es claims she did not have a gun to give out on night one and I questioned the shit out of it.
Vivax attacks rayn today, flips read on es and says she is mafia because of a situation where she didn't know her role mechanics.
Vivax's reasons to scum read me are fabricated and now he is using the same reasoning he called me out for to put a vote on es. It is true that Vivax scum-reads rayn yet votes for Eversince based on a reason he attributes to rayn. I don't agree that Vivax called ES mafia for role mechanics. As noted earlier, rayn's point which Vivax refers to relates to an information gap with the day-post. Which is a reason you couldn't have used because the day-post stuff happened later. The whole point last night was that es didn't know gunsmith has a gun n1. The whole point today is that es is mafia because (i don't actually know the reason? That she didn't claim she still had a gun and waffled?) Last night was a better reason and vivax said I was mafia for pushing it. Today is a what reason?
I literally quoted the reasons rayn gave in my initial post.
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On April 12 2018 04:02 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon. Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)
ignore: ESI'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need.
Well go get an opinion then P: Or at least on Vivax, because he has posted enough content that you should be able to get some read on him by now.
I think Tubesock is more likely town. But there is one weird thing relating to him. And it's that nobody in this game seems to give a fuck that he's playing. Damdred and currentlyhomeless have more people analysing them and this was even when CH was hardly posting.
Meanwhile Tubesock takes stances. He asks questions. He's doing stuff. But it seems like most of the thread doesn't feel strongly about him one way or the other. If he was just written off as "obviously town" then this would be fine but that isn't what happened.
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Also Skynx, you said you had Tubesock at null because you didn't have strong opinions on Calix/ ExO/ Vivax. Now you have opinions on two of those names. So why is he still null?
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On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too.
Huh?
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On April 12 2018 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax' switch is absolutely freaking terrible though. I believed in him.....
???
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On April 12 2018 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:19 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax' switch is absolutely freaking terrible though. I believed in him..... ??? From es town to es scum
Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though.
While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah.
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On April 12 2018 04:19 Skynx wrote:
I'll go back to his filter with what i think is good and bad about you guys, I'm yet to do that so thats why.
I'll be applying some paint early tomorrow and have the rest of the day off for it to dry so i should be around most of the day leaving me plenty of time to do that.
Great...? I'm probably not going to see it. I have to wake up super-early tomorrow and go halfway across the bloody country to London. Fun times.
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On April 12 2018 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:26 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 12 2018 04:19 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax' switch is absolutely freaking terrible though. I believed in him..... ??? From es town to es scum Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though. While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah. Es stuff is similar to the night phase stuff, I don't see how one is more convincing than the other, either you think it's all scummy from the start or it's just another mindless mistake. Ever town, tube town, skynx town, vivax is sliddding away but still town for now.
Because this actually doesn't relate to her reading the GS role PM incorrectly. For once.
No seriously, who ARE you scum-reading?
Hipster reads detected with "tube town, skynx town". Pls elaborate.
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On April 12 2018 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I'm fairly sure I've said why I think you are scum
Don't play stupid. You've talked enough shit about other players that I'm sure you must have more. Who are my supposed team mates?
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On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear.
Okay that makes more sense.
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Posting this because we actually have proper wagons. Two of them!
Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, Holyflare, Skynx
Eversince (4): currentlyhomeless, Calix, Vivax, raynpelikoneet
Holyflare (0): currentlyhomeless Vivax
currentlyhomeless (0): raynpelikoneet
Skynx (0): Tubesock
Not Voting (3): ExO_, Eversince, Damdred
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On April 12 2018 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:I made this set of posts. Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 17:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:ever knew that there was only 1 nk and posted about it after the flip
which means if ever is town, they would have read the daypost which said GB died
but then less than 3 (?) hours later when pressed for reads ever slipped and included GB roflmao this actually makes sense. Eversince elaborate please? Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 11 2018 09:31 Eversince wrote:
Ok, let me try to break this logic down for you then.
I gave the gun to Rayn
(town!Rayn) Shoots somebody.
(mafia!Rayn) Shoots town.
The fact there was no double kp and Rayn says he did not get the gun confirms Rayn town. If Rayn was mafia they could of doubled kp last night. If their is ever double kp from this point on it is either SK or Rayn is mafia. That is silly to risk in mafia!Rayn so Rayn is town. So at the same time Eversince does know there were not 2 flips at night but then she doesn't know Glowingbear died. Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 11 2018 17:30 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2018 17:20 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 11 2018 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Mr- whoeverperson you are. Play time is over.
Your posts aside from the eversince and gb things are completely undecipherable. Noone has any idea why you are scumreading Holyflare. Noone has any idea why you scumreading gb made hf town and how gb dying made him back to scum. Noone has any idea what you are saying about anything in the game.
Either you start playing or tell who you are and start playing, or you die. Time is up. You are not allowed to troll this town after this moment.
##vote currentlyhomeless me reading gb as scum didn’t make hf town wtf i thought he and hf were scum together. it was ever being weird and then hf jumping on ever with very similar thought process to my own which made me post this: On April 10 2018 17:20 currentlyhomeless wrote:
what is happening.
HF baby I’m sorry then I waffled on ever cause I was like na fuck it but niw I’m back to thinking ever is scum cause the claim makes 0 sense and there are too many “mistakes” also if i were scum what kind of moron would i be shoot one of my only scumreads n1? btw anyone who still thinks ever is town pls entertain me for a bit ever knew that there was only 1 nk and posted about it after the flip which means if ever is town, they would have read the daypost which said GB died but then less than 3 (?) hours later when pressed for reads ever slipped and included GB how would ever know there was only 1 nk but not know who it was if ever is town i seriously don’t believe a townie would forget that fast How does a mafioso forget who their night kill target was?? Well how does someone who just said she knows i didn't shoot anyone forget that they actually DID look at the daypost? Like fucking confirmed looked at the daypost. Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:The only way she would know, without looking at the daypost, that i "didn't shoot anyone" as she claims, is if she didn't actually even try to give me a gun.  I know i didn't "push it" because there was nothing else to say at that time and i was arguing with Calix and homelessdude.
Yeah speaking of that, where were you even going with that 'I see, I see' post wrt Damdred? I didn't get it.
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On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment
Actually possible too, lmao.
On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time
Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit.
Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol?
Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads?
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On April 12 2018 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 20:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 11 2018 18:31 Calix wrote:On April 11 2018 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 11 2018 18:16 Calix wrote:On April 11 2018 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 11 2018 18:05 Calix wrote:On April 11 2018 18:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 11 2018 17:57 Calix wrote:On April 11 2018 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why Damdred is not mafia Calix? He can be but there's not much that sways me one way or the other. I don't understand where he's coming from but I think it's pointless to analyse his posts without any explanations tbh. okay so you are just letting him call you mafia if he keeps playing like he does. gotcha,. "playing" - Good joke. Most people are calling me mafia. Doesn't mean they are all mafia. I don't have the luxury of OMGUSing or thinking most of the people pushing me are scummy when everyone wants me dead. So why do you think Damdred voted for you over anyone else when he did? Like i find is super amusing you seem to be thinking i am more likely to be mafia that Damdred is when he drops a seemingly random vote on you and i share basically every scumread with you other than yourself and Damdred. I don't really get why you are reacting like this to me posting some NK musings that boil down to "one of rayn and Skynx might be mafia for this kill and I think Skynx is more likely, otherwise I don't know why GB died". It's perfectly sensible to consider whether your reads are shit after an unexpected night kill happens. No, this is what you literally said. That GB night-kill only really makes sense if one (or even both) of rayn/ Skynx is mafia. That by definition means you scumread both of us, otherwise you would have used a different worrding. Damdred is jsut something else and not a real scumread. Like i said early in the game "one of Calix and HF is mafia buth not both". That's when you think only one and not both, in your case you can NEVER claim you think one but not both. So stop dodging the question and why am i more scummy than Damdred is? Damdred is what we call "null". I never said he was a 'real scum-read'. I don't know whether it's one or both of you, or even whether I am correct with my assumption that GB died because of his reads. The "I don't know whether it's one or both of you" is why the "or even both" part is in parentheses. Mhmm... so gb dying doeant make aense UNLESS but not really... i see Calix.. i see. Youre talking about this. You clearly implied i am (and skynx) more scummy than Damdred is because you literally said "That GB night-kill only really makes sense if one (or even both) of rayn/ Skynx is mafia" and Damdred is just something else and not a real scumread . When i confront you about it you say actually you are not sure if i am mafia or even if skynx is mafia which doesn't make any sense to me. So like you first concluded gb kill doesn't make any sense UNLESS skynx or rayn or both are mafia, and now you are not really sure fi rayn or even skynx is mafia when nothing on that front hasn't changed (it's impossible to change tbh because regardless of what we have posted after gb was still the night kill and someone shot him -- and you were ONLY talking about that). The last post was sarcastic because i tried many posts and you managed to never answer my question i asked you in the first place and just backpedalled from your earlier conclusion for imo no apparent reason.
I suck at detecting sarcasm unless it's obvious FTR.
I still think GB kill is weird as fuck because, as noted previously, he didn't have much thread presence. But I am electing to shelf it for now. Because ExO/ Eversince are openly scumming it up in the thread. It is hard to look past that because of NK analysis. Especially when I only have one kill to analyse. And I will probably be dead before I have to worry too much about NK analysis lol.
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On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment Actually possible too, lmao. On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads? Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken? I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF.
No she's definitely played games here before.
'I've never been great at reading scum' - I call bullshit on this. I've seen you play before and you were definitely not a wimp when it came to scum-reading people. Your passive tone here is a stark contrast.
Also it's obvious you're going to vote for me. I don't know why you're limping into it. It's a close tie between your town-read and your biggest scum-read and YOU'RE STILL ACTING LIKE YOU'RE DECIDING?
"probably be sheeping HF" my fucking arse.
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Damdred is a null read for me. He "can be mafia" BY DEFINITION OF BEING NULL.
I do not know how to make this more obvious.
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On April 12 2018 05:38 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:35 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment Actually possible too, lmao. On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads? Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken? I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF. No she's definitely played games here before. 'I've never been great at reading scum' - I call bullshit on this. I've seen you play before and you were definitely not a wimp when it came to scum-reading people. Your passive tone here is a stark contrast. Also it's obvious you're going to vote for me. I don't know why you're limping into it. It's a close tie between your town-read and your biggest scum-read and YOU'RE STILL ACTING LIKE YOU'RE DECIDING? "probably be sheeping HF" my fucking arse. I’m not acting like I’m deciding at all, I will 100% hands down vote you over ES. Where the hell do you come off saying im acting like im deciding?
If you're "probably sheeping HF" then that means you're not 100% sure BY DEFINITION.
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On April 12 2018 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone said i scumread Damdred because Damdred is afk. That can't be further away from truth. I scumread Damdred because at the time he dropped his vote on Calix there was no reason to think Calix is mafia. Damdred will never ever as town vote for "one of the wagons", hell he will instead get lynched himself voting for his scumread, and he tends to post a list for "end game credits" or some other shit like that. Based on his last scumgame it's not even out of reality that he votes for his scumbuddy. But i have a very hard time seeing how the vote on Calix at that time is in any way justified. But it's okay, Damdred will probably have a good asnwer to this when he comes to the thread next time. Another thing is that after voting Calix Damdred is more interested in telling why i look bad rather than why the person he is voting for looks bad or is mafia, and some other random stuff like Skynx wagon looks like something i don't even understand. And how often Damdred says "I disagree on vivax. But I am often wrong". Dude is just trying to save Vivax from a votecount that looks "horrendous for town" (Vivax and Skynx leading -- Calix third), and that's all he can come up with? Okay. If you think Damdred is null and there is nothing to say about him why didn't you call bs on this then? The only thing you managed to say about this and the whole post is that "anger seems genuine" which is honestly super weak because it is the most informative post i have made in this game.
Because I'm aware other people will disagree that there's nothing to say about him, duh. I personally think giving a read on him is pointless because he is AFK, has explained nothing, etc. But not everyone thinks like me. That's why I don't necessarily think it's weird if anyone else has a read on him.
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On April 12 2018 05:43 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:39 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:38 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 05:35 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment Actually possible too, lmao. On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads? Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken? I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF. No she's definitely played games here before. 'I've never been great at reading scum' - I call bullshit on this. I've seen you play before and you were definitely not a wimp when it came to scum-reading people. Your passive tone here is a stark contrast. Also it's obvious you're going to vote for me. I don't know why you're limping into it. It's a close tie between your town-read and your biggest scum-read and YOU'RE STILL ACTING LIKE YOU'RE DECIDING? "probably be sheeping HF" my fucking arse. I’m not acting like I’m deciding at all, I will 100% hands down vote you over ES. Where the hell do you come off saying im acting like im deciding? If you're " probably sheeping HF" then that means you're not 100% sure BY DEFINITION. Is this helping town in any way? Does this somehow make me scummier? You’re nit picking my wording. Im not sheeping HF if he votes ES, or if something changes my mind. Ergo im probably sheeping HF. The hell are you hoping to accomplish with a post like this?
Are the reams of defense posts you're making about ES helping town in any way? It's rich that you're saying that when you are not even scum-hunting lol.
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