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On March 16 2018 10:15 disformation wrote: agreed (though i only skimmed the medic game.) no time to play till Monday. so: /replace This is gonna start around Monday likely so get back in. | ||
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On March 19 2018 22:15 Half the Sky wrote: Incidentally, I'm in the same boat. Good luck. Hope you're not dying | ||
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On March 20 2018 08:17 ExO_ wrote: Is this joke or serious? if serious, can you give me some context? Bit of both really. Already at double the filter length that he gets as town now. | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:55 n00bKing wrote: This is a super-terrible reason to vote against someone. It is only in Mafia's interest for a TOWN player to point it out. It's not really in Mafia's interest at all for Mafia to point it out. What is the Mafia motivation supposed to be, for making such an observation? Not really true. Mafia want to post anything they can under the guise of scum hunting. Posting that I'm not a role isn't helping mafia in ANY way, it doesn't further any kind of scum read since I'm vt or mafia and it's just a completely empty read with nothing said. Good scum read. | ||
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On March 20 2018 17:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare can you tell me what is your read on noobking and why? Scummy because he is doing the same thing he did last game of defending logic rather than elaborating on mafia reads and being fluid. | ||
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Was initially a town read for being happy but now not. | ||
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3. ExO_ 5. Alakaslam 11. n00bking 13. Rels 15. Palmar 16. Fecalfeast 18. sicklucker 19. Koshi 20. MoosyDoosy Shit list so far. Conversion and noob being there together bugs me but they're both independently scummy/off. | ||
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On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote: "Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so. "Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?" He's asking why you'd vote disformation with koshi without elaborating when you have reason to scum read and vote him. It's a good question and you're being awfully pedantic about it. | ||
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On March 20 2018 17:42 n00bKing wrote: For one, saying you're not a power role does not fall "under the guise of scum hunting." Meanwhile, if you don't think saying you aren't a role helps Mafia in ANY way, then you must be completely disagreeing with what Ticktock said here? I don't think it helps mafia if he's town because he can't know what I am. It's pointless. It helps mafia if he's mafia because he uses this pointless post to try and fit in with scum hunting. I don't think town makes a pointless post to say nothing like that simply put. You're not gonna sway me by just saying the opposite thing everyone says. Even last game when someone said I'm mafia medic or town medic had some thought process behind it. | ||
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On March 20 2018 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: His "best point" was a comment to me telling Holyflare's Kelsier read is completely crap, something you were interested in earlier but somehow managed to miss this, twice....... I also thought he was referencing your mocsta point. You apparently did too because you said "what mocsta point" | ||
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I think rayn has the best point so far by a long way, mocsta has posted dumb shit and is definitely failing the fucktard test There's a giant comma. If it's a separate point I would at least expect a full stop. -channels noobking- | ||
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On March 20 2018 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I also dont understand why someone refers to my Mocsta "point" because i never had one and clearly said so. Isn't that exo's point? He didn't think you posted a mocsta read and was questioning it? | ||
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Kelsier posts mocsta thing on rayn. Rayn says what. Kelsier explains Exo picks on the point 2 he was originally confused about and says he's making it up. Shitness ensues? | ||
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On March 20 2018 18:46 ExO_ wrote: I posted as I read the thread. You ask why I made my first post, and then quote the post I made after it (as I read more). Long story short, when I open up your filter I didn’t notice your comment of “not true tho” is refering to the HF thing. The point I was making was that Keisler looked like he was trying to claim you made a read on mocsta and was agreeing with it, rather than making a read on mocsta on his own. Why does mafia post a really obviously untrue thing to sheep? | ||
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On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote: I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game, especially if the pace keeps at the rate it is now. If I'm to vote on something I want a literal 1 post explanatory case that gives the reason someone is scum. The only exception is maybe day 1 voting complete shitters and afkers if we don't have a solid case by the end of the day. Last game where noobking was mafia he just focused on "scum reading" me in an attempt to shit up the thread and cause confusion instead of calling people town or mafia and giving reasons. His play style as mafia (from a one game meta) was to ONLY point out logical fallacies and never actually scum hunt or see why people would make those mistakes. Much the same here, noobking is far more concerned with arguing semantics and trivial details and when he has put a vote down on someone it is unexplained and sheeping a bad koshi post potentially (who knows if he doesn't ever explain?). He was called out on this and instead of giving his view, explaining where he was coming from and trying to determine people's alignments he was content to shit on really minor wording about the word vote. When I said that someone is scummy for calling me not blue and explaining the thought process he was more concerned defending why that person is town using, again, semantics rather than trying to look at a bigger picture. Tl;dr Concerned with logical fallacies and arguing rather than scum hunting. Like his last mafia game. Trying to prove someone town by arguing semantics rather than scum hunting. Sheeping koshi's read and not explaining anything other than arguing semantics. | ||
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On March 20 2018 20:27 Palmar wrote: So here's the argument as I understood it (I'm ignoring some early parts): 1) Exo claims hf is "not blue" 2) Ticktock votes Exo for this, claiming he doesn't believe exo has such a read (I agree, that's a stupid read) 3) noobking makes the claim that exo's read makes no sense from either perspective (aka, not really relevant) This is where I get confused. You respond with this hf: In which you sound like you disagree with noobking (red) and then agree with him (green). Then you say "good scum read", when I don't really see him scumreading anyone, or is that referring to someone else? what am I missing? Ticktock says makes exo mafia for irrelevant post. I agreed with ticktock. Noobking says it doesn't make him mafia, in fact it makes him more likely TOWN because "it doesn't help mafia to post like that". I disagree with his premise that it makes exo town. I still agree with ticktock that it makes exo more likely mafia. It's an irrelevant post that has no real reason to post it for. It looks like he's scum hunting by posting a read but it's not actually a read. Then noobking argues with me that it doesn't try and look like scum hunting instead of anything to do with exo's motivation for posting in the first place. Drawn down to semantics. | ||
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I more scum read noobking for dragging out an absolutely small post for no reason other than to argue mafia's motivation and town reading exo. | ||
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Filter if you care. Doesn't get overly semantic till about halfway through. | ||
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On March 21 2018 00:41 Conversion wrote: My last post was horribly written. I still think n00bking is scum, but if I have to consolidate for the greater good of town disfo would be the only person I would be comfortable getting off of n00bking for. You're going to unpressure noobking because you want to consolidate 24 hours away from lynch? What a shit post. | ||
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On March 21 2018 01:41 Conversion wrote: Right, and your post wasn't reeking of shit at all. Great posting there! I'm off this thread as I'm in meetings until around 6PM EST. Toodles~ I take it back. Sorry. Why do you feel the need to consolidate instead of push though? | ||
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On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote: Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn. This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong. Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch. Wasn't it you that said you coached him and that it's his town meta...? | ||
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On March 21 2018 06:19 Vivax wrote: I might fall asleep before deadline. In the meantime I want to point out that both of noobkings current voters didn't really take my bait question. I was expecting an answer from a town player motivated to lynch him. And that to a post that reads rather townie to me. I'm mid replying but now I got 2%. He's basically angry and nitpicking how people have shit logic again? Doesn't say anything really. It's a jab at ticktock for saying he got 2 mafia. | ||
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On March 21 2018 06:19 Vivax wrote: I might fall asleep before deadline. In the meantime I want to point out that both of noobkings current voters didn't really take my bait question. I was expecting an answer from a town player motivated to lynch him. And that to a post that reads rather townie to me. It's in 24 hours?? | ||
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The unvote post struck me as the most uncharacteristic. Just seems off. None of the sson, u see with the eyes of chupazi. The house of maroon thought you were svengali but now you're not. | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:35 Palmar wrote: Explain to me why the two people voting ksc are mafia I don't even know who is voting kelsier. | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote: So... im in an odd predicament (1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything (2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought. I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics: Slam Moosy Ex0/KSC, Koshi/Disfo/n00bking, DF Rest is probably side distractions. My current (albeit loose) thoughts are: Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy) Below null pile (n00bking) Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only. Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said. Slam I would still need to meta-dive. DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on. tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything. moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team. Apologies to leave it like this. As if I'm null while you simultaneously scum read noobking. | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote: Perhaps its the ply of your toilet paper, but you havent tickled me yet in the way a town HF normally tickles me. I realise I don't know how a scum!HF tickles, but I have certainly seen the town tickle across the games this year. Until I see a bit more of that magic around the game, you are still in my null pile. Funny you mention it now. I'm using it and am thoroughly disappointed. | ||
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I still think he's just mafia though. The last big post to me is re-stating exo nothingness, big post here is talking about mechanics. Don't know who he scum reads (apparently slam now (that "I saw it and then rsoultin did" post looks really unlikely)) because he never states it. Whole lot of semantics really | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:44 n00bKing wrote: I don't have any context on whether it's suspicious for Alakaslam to think that "lazy mafia" are pushing him early game, instead of saving him to be mislynched late game. I DO find it odd that he so confidently named me town in this game. When people voting against me (like HF and Moosy) say they're doing so on the basis that I'm playing the same as the last game. They're right, I'm playing the same as the last game, because I just played my town game for 95% of the last game. HF doesn't seem to know anything about my Town game, and doesn't care. He's just "blah blah, same as other game, blah." Yet while I AGREE with the people voting against me that I'm playing the same as the last game, Alakaslam correctly labels me Town in this game, after all his "classic scum m8" crap from the previous game. Now yes, I pushed him off of his scumread on me in the prior game, and even had him voting against MY lynch target, eventually. But even so, the speed and accuracy of his townread on me here is cause for pause. However, I can't help you lynch him, cuz then he'll OMGUS me, and then once Slam gives the go-ahead, Koshi will lynch me with the heat of a thousand suns. And then I flip town, and people are sad. :D (In all seriousness, Slam is probably fine as a fallback option, with the likes of Rels. From your recent "remove from the lynch pool" list, the only one I disagree with is Rels. I would add to that "remove from the lynch pool" list by putting Tictock in it. I don't have any interest in lynching him. Oh, and me! I should be removed from it too. hehe. I also am not too excited about lynching Conversion, though he's been almost entirely useless, it seems. I can at least hope that he might be useful later. I can't hold out much hope for that in the case of like...Fecalfeast.) Who isn't reading the thread? This guy ^. Why is slam scummy for doing this when I can name 3 other people off the top of my head that have just done the exact same thing. Koshi, rsoultin just now, myself? If three other people can see it and two of those are ok and the other one is confirmed mafia siding town then what's different about slam seeing the same thing? | ||
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Wasn't I town in this game?? | ||
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Nah nvm I was mafia. Think it was the game slam didn't vote and lost us the game :p | ||
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On March 21 2018 20:36 Holyflare wrote: Is my filter even good to be town read? Read it. It's not. The hunt begins. | ||
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On March 21 2018 05:43 darthfoley wrote: Don't know what you're on about m8. Chester Campbell was but one of five blokes who said you were being angry and mean. Chester doesn't cry, he's a man's man. Chester 'as 'ad quite a few original toughts. Not Chester's fault ye can't see what ye don't wish to see Men are allowed to cry too. Quite good for mental health. | ||
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On March 21 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote: Hey, do you buy the Rels read on me? Am I just being butthurt? Unfortunately I've thought you've been a bit underwhelming but not particularly in a scummy way though. Can see someone taking that as scummy. Also I'm now scum reading disformation quite a bit. Went filter diving and the following issues arose: Awkward entry into the game. No real reads till people started making them. All the reads he makes aren't waffles they are hedges. Not the good kind of hedges either. They are hedges that lean in one direction where he 50/50s a person IN ALMOST EVERY POST but then gives really off brand meta reasons to say they're town or whatever to complete the hedge because it looks like he can't think of in game reasons to be wrong. It's peculiar and scummy. | ||
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On March 21 2018 22:31 disformation wrote: randomly opened up darthfoley's filter. saw him being sassy. made me smile. town(ish) pile. I have an interesting opinion on this. Tell me, why did you randomly open df's filter? | ||
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hm. I think I like df for town. On March 21 2018 22:31 disformation wrote: randomly opened up darthfoley's filter. saw him being sassy. made me smile. town(ish) pile. On March 21 2018 22:38 disformation wrote: i did my small town pile. Opened up page one of this thread to look at the filter/player list, saw his name and thought to myself that i couldnt really remember anything about him so I clicked on the link to his filter. So you just forget who you town read or are you throwing out random names for the hell of it because you're mafia? | ||
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On March 21 2018 22:55 disformation wrote: cmon, super easy to forget stuff like that in a 20 player game. -.- That's not the only reason I gave to scum read you though is it? Just made a whole post about it last page. | ||
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Also, why is it still meh when I've said his posting looks better and you seem to agree? Surely you have "similar" opinions to me so my filter isn't actually meh in the slightest, it's full of everything you are thinking before you think it? | ||
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On March 22 2018 00:45 Mocsta wrote: Hmmm 7 wines tonight Really feeling it. Great for unbiased pattern assessment Go Ni for the win So... im disapoointed no one but rayn gave feedback on palmat but hey watevz I am going to go out ona limb here. Im the #1 town read this game. Of xourse this doesnt mean i am right. But at least means tou can trust me and my intent. A few things in my hazy mind 1. I dont like hf but am not sure if its for scummy eeasons 2. Disinfo with really bad posta. Can completely lynx 4. Im certain rsoultin is town 5. Rels notes is cute but i think is scum. Could lynch over disfo. Too tryhard when under no pressure. Also nkt really canvassing for raoultin lhnch. Reads as fake content. 6. Vivax 16/4 makes some sense. 7. I like rayn this game as a person... this makes me somewhat uneasy lol. I wilk stixk with town. Im just tok uaed to him pissing me off. 8. I syill think n00bking is probable scum. Am goinf to keep vite here. As long as top 2 wagons ate disfo and n00b i dont care whom is lynch Good nifht wow look at this guy | ||
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On March 22 2018 00:53 Mocsta wrote: Hf Tickle me br0 Or fuxk 0ff This is for you mate. | ||
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On March 22 2018 03:59 Vivax wrote: So if I pretend ExO can't get lynched today: Koshi, KSc, rayn, HF, rsoultin are probs mafia. For postgame. Quite literally opposite land. | ||
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On March 22 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote: It was always super-strange that Vivax had his singleton vote on Exo instead of putting a 3rd vote on Kelsier, when he had designated Kelsier as "caught scum." Can you explain why a scum Vivax would rather see me lynched than Kelsier? My thought when I made it was a disfo/vivax team but that's going way on the back burner after blue claim. | ||
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On March 22 2018 05:14 n00bKing wrote: wat No one else did "the exact same thing." I said the SPEED and accuracy was concerning. There definitely was not the same speed with someone like yourself or rsoul. It's like the first thing Alakaslam did, once he said he'd read his role PM. Also, I find it funny that you accuse me of not reading the thread, and then, 2 pages later, you admit that you are actually not reading the thread. I admit it though. | ||
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On March 22 2018 05:19 Rels wrote: same that for disfo. He will get resolved one way or the other. Why the hell would he get resolved?? He's not actually claiming vig. | ||
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Says he followed the noobking scum read because he looked the same as last game. When noobking stopped displaying the same things as last game Mocsta decided to go anti that read and say noobking was just the same still. Despite Mocsta's original read on noobking being a sheep from ME and also his scum read on someone else being a sheep from ME he keeps referencing how he minorly nothing reads me or some useless crap. Not once does he attribute anything I've said to lynching his biggest scum read as me being any alignment. He made a really shit fake claim like he did in the last mafia game. And no, it wasn't the one that Rels posted it was some role that wouldn't exist in the game that people STILL believed and was ludicrous. That's just the tip of the iceberg. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:02 Skynx wrote: Silence There's still an hour to go. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:04 Mocsta wrote: Sup mofos Slightly dry-mouth, slight headache which creates perfect conditions for catching up on the thread just before lynch ;P OK.. i left last night on p53 Going to dive: Sicklucker, Rels, Disfo, Palmar & n00bking Final vote will go into there. Lurker 1,2,blue,3 and semanticsking. | ||
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Want to lynch mocsta. | ||
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Saw it, said nothing. You were definitely channeling noobking in that post. Your noobking re-entry was terrible. I do not for one second believe you see noobking's posting as better JUST NOW when everyone is off him as opposed to just before you left when everyone was beginning to un-scum read him. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: seeing rels vote mocsta makes me want to kill rells now mmmm Stop being shit and doing associations. Sheep me instead. | ||
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On March 21 2018 18:33 Mocsta wrote: Heading out soon N00b reads better past hour. Aside from awkward exchnage with ykl I am fearful of lynch shenannies as i cant see any inkling of consensus and no default leadership. Lots of independents. How about tjis new stone Lwts talk palmar Useful filter so far?? On March 22 2018 00:45 Mocsta wrote: Hmmm 7 wines tonight Really feeling it. Great for unbiased pattern assessment Go Ni for the win So... im disapoointed no one but rayn gave feedback on palmat but hey watevz I am going to go out ona limb here. Im the #1 town read this game. Of xourse this doesnt mean i am right. But at least means tou can trust me and my intent. A few things in my hazy mind 1. I dont like hf but am not sure if its for scummy eeasons 2. Disinfo with really bad posta. Can completely lynx 4. Im certain rsoultin is town 5. Rels notes is cute but i think is scum. Could lynch over disfo. Too tryhard when under no pressure. Also nkt really canvassing for raoultin lhnch. Reads as fake content. 6. Vivax 16/4 makes some sense. 7. I like rayn this game as a person... this makes me somewhat uneasy lol. I wilk stixk with town. Im just tok uaed to him pissing me off. 8. I syill think n00bking is probable scum. Am goinf to keep vite here. As long as top 2 wagons ate disfo and n00b i dont care whom is lynch Good nifht On March 22 2018 01:21 Mocsta wrote: I know my filter is too big and sorry but here is final thoufhts Day1 scum jsut want an easy lycnh. Doesnt really matter who as long as town. I give benefit of doubt to all that are active across multiple big topics. Not just relying on OMGUS for filter Ppl focusing on trivial thing is ideal lynch. Namez that coms to mind Disfo, palmar, rels, n00b Dint care whom is lynched id in thiz pool Night On March 22 2018 07:25 Mocsta wrote: Good post. I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore. This progression is just insanely fabricated. The first post is AFTER everything that Mocsta called noobking mafia for, he says noobking's posts have improved but then blindly scum reads him still. Then after votes start gathering on him he returns and says noobking's posts are looking better all over again like he hadn't said it before (and ignored himself) just because noobking is no longer flavour of the thread. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:57 Mocsta wrote: Stop the propaganda Will You are meant to be better than this. It's not fucking propaganda, you literally just gave 0 scum reads as a "farewell" post. ZERO. | ||
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It makes you scummy because the 2 things you chose to talk about in your last dying moments don't help drive the game forward. It's scummy because the last 2 things you chose to talk about show that you have no real thought or will to lynch ANYBODY in a time that we need to lynch SOMEBODY. It shows you are mafia because when your ONE scum read falls out of flavour from the thread while you sleep you have NOBODY to back up onto because you haven't sewn any seeds or looked at anything else. It shows you're mafia because you haven't even looked elsewhere to even leave a last will when one mafia read falls away. It shows you're mafia because you chose to comment on Alakaslam the most incoherent person in this game that has no relevance to anything. | ||
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On March 22 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote: Im really struggling to understand how this game became so disjointed. Quite a few ghost or throw away votes as well. ykl, Ex0_, palmar, Koshi HF I still dont understand why you believe I am mafia. What you point out to me seems to revolve around you being read independently? I dont get it. Mafia can throw out good reads on town or scum. And town can throw out good reads on town or scum. If I happen to agree with something you said; why should that automatically you town? I really dont see any other argumentation being purported. It's absolutely unthinkable to me for your biggest scum read to be noobking based on a case I made and points you AGREED WITH ME on and points you continued to repeat yet I was just a "I don't like hf this game, dunno if scummy or not" read. That's bull shit. If someone makes a case that you are inevitably following and agree with then that person is always going to be bigger than a nothing/null read, always. Just by virtue of you seeing the same things. You do it multiple times to rsoultin where you say "Oh, look, mindmeld, we must be town!" but not once do you attribute the same thing to your read on me despite the noobking thing. Then there's the fact that you FORGOT your own points on noobking and said he looked better just to re-point out he was your biggest scum read. When the thread started unvoting him you felt the need to reiterate the fact that his posting was better despite ALREADY saying it. Then there's that whole about to die stuff which I don't think is towny in the slightest. | ||
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I'll be waiting. | ||
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On March 22 2018 18:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: dart'hfoley claimed cop and i have explained my read on Moosy so you can go look it up in my filter. Not saying he's gonna do anything that helps town but he is still town. No he didn't?? | ||
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This was out of spite for last game. The second quote is clearly sarcastic because he had like 3 posts. | ||
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Also, this has nothing to do with you actually being mafia. It's absolutely about getting reads on other people. You said my points were fair, my case wasn't bad so why are people town reading you when you didn't have a scum read? Important questions here because that could formulate tmi on you if you're town. | ||
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Touché. | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:01 Palmar wrote: are you gonna be difficult about this hf? Do you like my case? You should like my case... I love your case because it was my case last game and my case this game too. | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote: @HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him ????? Are you mafia. Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do? | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:41 n00bKing wrote: Thanks. A potential flaw in your disformation plan is that, again, he could be a mafia Veteran. So I think that would keep him from being a good Vigilante target, even aside from the talk of how a Vigilante is better off shooting into the trash-tier people who aren't really playing. There's no such thing as mafia veteran. | ||
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Point to me a game on to mafia that isn't themed that has a mafia veteran. | ||
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On March 23 2018 00:57 Holyflare wrote: Read my case yo. You missed out the parts where mocsta says noobking looks better but then says he's scummy a few posts later but then repeats he looks better again when everyone unvoted him. https://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=Holyflare&page=6 A bit on the page before if you're bored. | ||
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HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling. This is quite categorically false. I made a case on mocsta, I told you to vote him, I pointed out inconsistencies and repeatedly tried to get him lynched while you waved pretty French meat at people and did... Nothing? I didn't argue with mocsta either so if you want to put out that read to diminish my reasons to vote mocsta then back it up. Prove I did that instead of casing and giving mafia motivations. | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:52 Holyflare wrote: My read on you is that you're underwhelming and did nothing to give more reasons to lynch rels at deadline. Your read on yourself is that you were emotional and didn't do much at deadline to figure out rels. So either you agree with me on yourself or you're needlessly niggling at me Right. You've just said you're hedging on me so whatever. Don't make up accusations because you can't read me. Just lynch mocsta. No way anyone other than me is dying tonight anyway. | ||
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On March 23 2018 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: You, but when the votes were on df and everyone for some stupid reason left your wagon that was the best lynch. I don't even remember why i thought only one of you can be mafia but i don't really care about it today, we'll see if i have to tomorrow. Updated list: disformation darthfoley noobking Exo_ Tictock ykl Didn't you point out mocsta has no scum reads and he's not even in your list? | ||
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On March 23 2018 07:00 Tictock wrote: Quoted this from Conv’s post at the top of pg86. Really odd to me that he calls himself a coinflip. @Conv Mocsta said his vote was to save himself, people voting for self-preservation is pretty NAI as it is good play for both alignments. None of the rest of that post was interesting, I’ve never understood why some ppl put a big deal on not townreading people who share a read with you. Scum hop on town’s reads all the time and while sharing a read should be taken into consideration it is never a solid basis for a read. That's completely different to what happened. | ||
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On March 23 2018 07:08 Tictock wrote: Have not read your case, but since when is changing ones mind a scummy thing to do? Pretty sure that is much more likely to come from town. I’m realizing that I am probably defending Mocsta more than I should, but I am starting to suspect HF is scum. The last time I saw him have a narrow and unwavering focus like this he was scum. Noting this to remind myself to look into it later. I haven't read your case about how it looks like he didn't change his mind and how he looked like he's making up reads but let me just take my time to defend him anyway from a read I don't and can't understand until I've read the case. Mafia ticktock. | ||
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If mocsta is town lynch ticktock 10/10 times. It's not a towny thought process to defend someone from a case before you read the case ever. It's ridiculous. Then he's trying to push me as mafia because I backed off nk....? Wtf is he even reading. When you've done that you either kill Fecalfeast or he claims blue. Either or. Don't let rsoultin slide away doing not much. Don't think she's having any usual impact. If I die one of the usual top town people looking people (not in this game) are mafia so look into rsoul/palmar/vivax/koshi etc. Don't really agree with rayn on df fight but dude seems ok. Koshi seems ok. Slam not voting would be a dick move to team mates. Coag seal. Forget most people in this game really. Don't sleep on palmar, he's playing his mafia meta right now but I wanna see where it goes. Like the drive on nk. | ||
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On March 23 2018 07:53 Mocsta wrote: Lol.. will even though this is for n00bking.. it really should be applied to me considering you even quoted my mafia game... hmmm, so stubborn even when I worked with your issues. this mule syndrome is not what I thought your town game represented to be fair. Literally 0 idea what you're writing. | ||
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On March 23 2018 07:58 Holyflare wrote: My dying wishes: If mocsta is town lynch ticktock 10/10 times. It's not a towny thought process to defend someone from a case before you read the case ever. It's ridiculous. Then he's trying to push me as mafia because I backed off nk....? Wtf is he even reading. When you've done that you either kill Fecalfeast or he claims blue. Either or. Don't let rsoultin slide away doing not much. Don't think she's having any usual impact. If I die one of the usual top town people looking people (not in this game) are mafia so look into rsoul/palmar/vivax/koshi etc. Don't really agree with rayn on df fight but dude seems ok. Koshi seems ok. Slam not voting would be a dick move to team mates. Coag seal. Forget most people in this game really. Don't sleep on palmar, he's playing his mafia meta right now but I wanna see where it goes. Like the drive on nk. Actually I kinda did like rayn at the end of the df fight. Df seems to falter. Chase up on that. | ||
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On March 28 2018 14:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am just gonna say it out loud, Holyflare is the best mafia player i know and in my mind pretty much noone comes even close. <3 Maybe not anymore. I once was. | ||
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On March 28 2018 21:25 Mocsta wrote: Do you think you would have dropped ya read on me? Yeah, absolutely would have changed reads on both you and tt. Would have pushed for palmar day 2. | ||
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