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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:54 GMT
#1461
On February 09 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
Also, gg truffle
Yes, GG !
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 23:55 GMT
#1462
Lol I know that rain said he wouldn't talk about me today but I don't really get why has actually falling that? Is this slip theory really that compelling?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 23:57 GMT
#1463
Phone posting is so annoying. That's supposed to read why he's actually following that.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:58 GMT
#1464
On February 09 2018 08:55 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I know that rain said he wouldn't talk about me today but I don't really get why has actually falling that? Is this slip theory really that compelling?
What do you think?

+ Show Spoiler [my theory] +
Is that Rayn is treating D2 like I did in the last game on D2 with HF (i.e. I wanted to intentionally shit the thread).


I dont understand how anyone could find that contextually the most relevant post of 70+ pages to justify a lynch on.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:02 GMT
#1465
On February 09 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:55 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I know that rain said he wouldn't talk about me today but I don't really get why has actually falling that? Is this slip theory really that compelling?
What do you think?

+ Show Spoiler [my theory] +
Is that Rayn is treating D2 like I did in the last game on D2 with HF (i.e. I wanted to intentionally shit the thread).


I dont understand how anyone could find that contextually the most relevant post of 70+ pages to justify a lynch on.

It is pretty awful, yes. Idk about intentionally shitting the thread though. This is fairly mild for Joni.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 00:05 GMT
#1466
to clarify, what is awful

the <slip> or finding it the most relevant post?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:05 GMT
#1467
I would also like to know why you think Ian is summarizing the thread mocsta. I agree with Joni that they're at least different than the conclusions most people are making.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:06 GMT
#1468
On February 09 2018 09:05 Mocsta wrote:
to clarify, what is awful

the <slip> or finding it the most relevant post?

The scumread based on that in the first place.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:11 GMT
#1469
On February 09 2018 08:35 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:26 Damdred wrote:
Vote was not wasted in nsm, if rels hadnt of been stupid we could of lynched df that day.
No, same situation as this game.

Need in excess of 1 vote.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:27 Damdred wrote:
I sort of want mocsta to find where i regurigitated all my reads from.

The Disfo comments were a spit out from me without any filter diving

Either way, im your 'pure" wagon town read, so why does it matter. This is my opinion as TOWN.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:31 Damdred wrote:
and i think he disxounta where i go more in depth later on, like i get hf/koshi hating me for how i view the game.

but i dont feel like i copied anyones reads
perhaps you have come to the same conclusions as others on your own; but i still not identify any new insights.


What do you agree about Rayn thought process?
If its not clear to you, his top reads are rsoultin and mocsta.

Or is it just the disinfo read that looks similar to yours?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 00:25 GMT
#1470
Im going to break this down then.

You are being a hypocrit mocsta, you say that i regurgitate all of my reads but you copy and paste hf argument that i explain and ignore when you are called out on it.

And honestly no, you slipped back into the thread sentiment like you did last game and i just dont know what it makes you.

And honestly i dont know what it makes you, idc about voting or not because unlike what most of the thread thinks about me im not stupid and can read the wall.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:26 GMT
#1471
Meh too late to wait for answers taking this long.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:28 GMT
#1472
On February 09 2018 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Im going to break this down then.

You are being a hypocrit mocsta, you say that i regurgitate all of my reads but you copy and paste hf argument that i explain and ignore when you are called out on it.

And honestly no, you slipped back into the thread sentiment like you did last game and i just dont know what it makes you.

And honestly i dont know what it makes you, idc about voting or not because unlike what most of the thread thinks about me im not stupid and can read the wall.

-pokes- I don't think anyone thinks you're stupid, Ian?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 00:28 GMT
#1473
On February 09 2018 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
I would also like to know why you think Ian is summarizing the thread mocsta. I agree with Joni that they're at least different than the conclusions most people are making.


OK, I shall dive for you.

On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [nothing new] +
Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order

Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel

These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.


+ Show Spoiler [Nothing new] +

Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn

Idk maybe?
prp
+ Show Spoiler [+ no strong thread consensus] +


+ Show Spoiler [DF or rsoultin is nothing new.] +
scum
DF

Rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler [+Pairings irrelevant as 1 lynch a day] +



Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.

+ Show Spoiler [Maintain D1 consistency] +
First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.


+ Show Spoiler [most sense compared to what?] +
It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.


+ Show Spoiler [weak DF reason, already commented] +
DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.


+ Show Spoiler [already commented] +
I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.


+ Show Spoiler [agree Mocsta=scum?!?] +
Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts


+ Show Spoiler [perhaps new] +
Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game.
Overall a summary post. New insight are superficial comments with no basis behind it.

This is a more "wall-of-text" version of mderg summary post that says a lot about nothing.
As a reminder:
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 00:31 GMT
#1474
On February 09 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I gave my first disformation townread before you reentered the thread yesterday after lynch btw.

And honestly i dont even know what to think about you right now truthfully.

Why were you so angry earlier? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it doesn't align with what usually sets you off.

Also I find it weird that you're not even considering a world where I'm town after townreading me earlier. Like I get that you think mderg is unlikely to do that if I'm town but you're good at reading me and I would at least expect some sort of consideration for multiple explanations even if you arrive at the same conclusions.

Also, gg truffle


Ok, im going to pretend just for a bit that i think you are town and I will try to work with you.

Im just tired, idk id rather not talk about it in game anymore.

So where do we start, lets start at my base stuff. Where am I wrong at tina to stary with?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:32 GMT
#1475
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 00:34 GMT
#1476
On February 09 2018 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Im going to break this down then.

You are being a hypocrit mocsta, you say that i regurgitate all of my reads but you copy and paste hf argument that i explain and ignore when you are called out on it.
Did you call me out about it? If so, I would have replied. You dont have to live vicariously through Raynpelikoneet. Anyways, I commented on your summary reads just prior. There is no relevant to agreeing with HF, this from you is truly facetious.

And honestly no, you slipped back into the thread sentiment like you did last game and i just dont know what it makes you.
Overreaction, there is only 2 votes your way. Thread sentiment is meaningless without votes.

And honestly i dont know what it makes you, idc about voting or not because unlike what most of the thread thinks about me im not stupid and can read the wall.
I never thought you were stupid - its why I expect more from you.

Again, according to your logic, I should be an even stronger town read.
And I truly want to know why you think I should be ashamed of myself from your first post.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:40 GMT
#1477
On February 09 2018 09:31 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I gave my first disformation townread before you reentered the thread yesterday after lynch btw.

And honestly i dont even know what to think about you right now truthfully.

Why were you so angry earlier? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it doesn't align with what usually sets you off.

Also I find it weird that you're not even considering a world where I'm town after townreading me earlier. Like I get that you think mderg is unlikely to do that if I'm town but you're good at reading me and I would at least expect some sort of consideration for multiple explanations even if you arrive at the same conclusions.

Also, gg truffle


Ok, im going to pretend just for a bit that i think you are town and I will try to work with you.

Im just tired, idk id rather not talk about it in game anymore.

So where do we start, lets start at my base stuff. Where am I wrong at tina to stary with?

It's not a wrong thing. Obviously mderg didn't vote to save himself and he was scum. I was the counterwagon. I understand the logic fine even if I know it's wrong in this case.

I just don't see you as the guy who doesn't consider multiple angles, especially when you were townreading me previously. I guess I want to know your thought process because I'm not seeing it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 00:42 GMT
#1478
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:47 GMT
#1479
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 00:47 GMT
#1480
Firstly mocsta, the ashamed part was tongue in cheek ribbing because i like you. And really I thought it was humerous you were usimg activity as a way to scum read me while you checked out all these past games of people XD.

But really it wasnt supposed to be a dig at you and i reallu do apologize if you took it that way.
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