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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 00:49 GMT
#1481
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 00:50 GMT
#1482
On February 09 2018 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Firstly mocsta, the ashamed part was tongue in cheek ribbing because i like you. And really I thought it was humerous you were usimg activity as a way to scum read me while you checked out all these past games of people XD.

But really it wasnt supposed to be a dig at you and i reallu do apologize if you took it that way.
it was interpreted as I should be ashamed to have made a case on rsoultin

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 00:51 GMT
#1483
On February 09 2018 09:50 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Firstly mocsta, the ashamed part was tongue in cheek ribbing because i like you. And really I thought it was humerous you were usimg activity as a way to scum read me while you checked out all these past games of people XD.

But really it wasnt supposed to be a dig at you and i reallu do apologize if you took it that way.
it was interpreted as I should be ashamed to have made a case on rsoultin



no i thought tina was scum i think, i was prodding you about soft pushing me espe ially with rels being just as inactive.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 00:51 GMT
#1484
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....
Well, I would like a position on Rayn dropping all happenings in the game, to call me scum for writing <b>bomb</b>. Try to factor out your position on me please.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:54 GMT
#1485
Last game you were being lynched over a word and you almost seemed bemused.

Here instead of explaining yourself over a legitimate point you just erupt. The theory is that mderg came off his scummate to what? Save me or try to cause shennanies, right? Then why couldn't scum be on mderg? It would make more sense especially in the first scenario for that to be where scum is for you.

I don't understand your reaction.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 00:55 GMT
#1486
On February 09 2018 09:51 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....
Well, I would like a position on Rayn dropping all happenings in the game, to call me scum for writing <b>bomb</b>. Try to factor out your position on me please.


eh regardless of anything else i think its wrong and really thin.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 00:57 GMT
#1487
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....

Like I can't tell if you're saying people are wrong, or you're being persecuted, or what? And really I'm mostly questioning what set you off regarding hf's response to your reads.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 01:07 GMT
#1488
On February 09 2018 09:55 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:51 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....
Well, I would like a position on Rayn dropping all happenings in the game, to call me scum for writing <b>bomb</b>. Try to factor out your position on me please.


eh regardless of anything else i think its wrong and really thin.
imma make a bet with you.
rayn is going to come back and claim cop and claim red.

I will claim I am not a self-aware miller (obviously that is Koshi).

Roflcoptors will be posted.


Now in all seriousness. I am reviewing trfel filter, and am writing something in advance of my post release.
I am willing to open myself to considering DF.

Can you summarise for me why he is scum; and its really important to me, to understand what is similar about him this game to the previous game. Whether right or wrong, i that forms intrinsic value for me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 01:09 GMT
#1489
On February 09 2018 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....

Like I can't tell if you're saying people are wrong, or you're being persecuted, or what? And really I'm mostly questioning what set you off regarding hf's response to your reads.


idk what to say, things got under my skin.

i feel like im saying things and the context is a bit cherry picked or later posts that explain what i mean is ignored.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 01:16 GMT
#1490
On February 09 2018 09:28 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
I would also like to know why you think Ian is summarizing the thread mocsta. I agree with Joni that they're at least different than the conclusions most people are making.


OK, I shall dive for you.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [nothing new] +
Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order

Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel

These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.


+ Show Spoiler [Nothing new] +

Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn

Idk maybe?
prp
+ Show Spoiler [+ no strong thread consensus] +


+ Show Spoiler [DF or rsoultin is nothing new.] +
scum
DF

Rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler [+Pairings irrelevant as 1 lynch a day] +



Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.

+ Show Spoiler [Maintain D1 consistency] +
First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.


+ Show Spoiler [most sense compared to what?] +
It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.


+ Show Spoiler [weak DF reason, already commented] +
DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.


+ Show Spoiler [already commented] +
I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.


+ Show Spoiler [agree Mocsta=scum?!?] +
Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts


+ Show Spoiler [perhaps new] +
Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game.
Overall a summary post. New insight are superficial comments with no basis behind it.

This is a more "wall-of-text" version of mderg summary post that says a lot about nothing.
As a reminder:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:

Some of this reads like you're saying he's summarizing thread sentiment and some as if his reads are static. Is that correct?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 01:19 GMT
#1491
On February 09 2018 10:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:55 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:51 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....
Well, I would like a position on Rayn dropping all happenings in the game, to call me scum for writing <b>bomb</b>. Try to factor out your position on me please.


eh regardless of anything else i think its wrong and really thin.
imma make a bet with you.
rayn is going to come back and claim cop and claim red.

I will claim I am not a self-aware miller (obviously that is Koshi).

Roflcoptors will be posted.


Now in all seriousness. I am reviewing trfel filter, and am writing something in advance of my post release.
I am willing to open myself to considering DF.

Can you summarise for me why he is scum; and its really important to me, to understand what is similar about him this game to the previous game. Whether right or wrong, i that forms intrinsic value for me.


DF is antagonistic in his scum game, for example I was getting warm on putting his partner calix up for lynch. He would then take little things and force a argument/fight to get me ofd the track I wanted to go on.

It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town.

Also as town he is usually what i consider a trailblazer. Mafia shoots him a lot early for beong right or looking in strange places. Here I sort od feel he just exists pretty static and hes sidelined.

Now I think this is fair to say df was active eod however what he did, did not help scum either... but who knew that hf wasnt goingb to go rs. @hf could probably answer if df pushed him away from voting tina at all though.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 01:22 GMT
#1492
On February 09 2018 10:09 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....

Like I can't tell if you're saying people are wrong, or you're being persecuted, or what? And really I'm mostly questioning what set you off regarding hf's response to your reads.


idk what to say, things got under my skin.

i feel like im saying things and the context is a bit cherry picked or later posts that explain what i mean is ignored.

Nh. I'll accept this for now while going through filters is a pain in the butt on phone. Need to check something, though.

It's getting too late for me here @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 01:22 GMT
#1493
like lets assume that tina is town, df auccessfully pushed hf (maybe) to not vote town tina instead hf goes onto his scum partnwr mderg when the other people on mdeeg are afk.

and that to me just doesnt necessarily make sense to me either meh. of course hf is unlredictable and hf could of just voted tina ehhh
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 01:26 GMT
#1494
On February 09 2018 10:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 09:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
I would also like to know why you think Ian is summarizing the thread mocsta. I agree with Joni that they're at least different than the conclusions most people are making.


OK, I shall dive for you.

On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [nothing new] +
Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order

Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel

These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.


+ Show Spoiler [Nothing new] +

Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn

Idk maybe?
prp
+ Show Spoiler [+ no strong thread consensus] +


+ Show Spoiler [DF or rsoultin is nothing new.] +
scum
DF

Rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler [+Pairings irrelevant as 1 lynch a day] +



Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.

+ Show Spoiler [Maintain D1 consistency] +
First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.


+ Show Spoiler [most sense compared to what?] +
It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.


+ Show Spoiler [weak DF reason, already commented] +
DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.


+ Show Spoiler [already commented] +
I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.


+ Show Spoiler [agree Mocsta=scum?!?] +
Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts


+ Show Spoiler [perhaps new] +
Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game.
Overall a summary post. New insight are superficial comments with no basis behind it.

This is a more "wall-of-text" version of mderg summary post that says a lot about nothing.
As a reminder:
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:

Some of this reads like you're saying he's summarizing thread sentiment and some as if his reads are static. Is that correct?
I suppose so. I have moved on from that for now.

Trfel read conversion as strong town, and df (with damdred at end) as good scumspects.

Im in the process of reevaluating my conversion/df position.

Unfortunately, i wasnt around EoD1 so i dont get the same sense of urgency not being there (i.e. constant F5 lol).
I probably have to collate thread with votes to best understand.

sigh
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 01:27 GMT
#1495
On February 09 2018 10:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:07 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:55 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:51 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:49 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:47 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
Please answer my questions. I thought you were town!Damdred but now I'm getting doubts. I don't see why questioning you dismissing everyone as town on one wagon while you think it was a svs vote an insult to your intelligence?


Idk i feel like there is some kind of disconnect between what I am saying and pieces are being put against me in a way idk

I'm not sure that I understand what you're trying to say here?


i dont know what im doimg wrong and why people cant understand me....
Well, I would like a position on Rayn dropping all happenings in the game, to call me scum for writing <b>bomb</b>. Try to factor out your position on me please.


eh regardless of anything else i think its wrong and really thin.
imma make a bet with you.
rayn is going to come back and claim cop and claim red.

I will claim I am not a self-aware miller (obviously that is Koshi).

Roflcoptors will be posted.


Now in all seriousness. I am reviewing trfel filter, and am writing something in advance of my post release.
I am willing to open myself to considering DF.

Can you summarise for me why he is scum; and its really important to me, to understand what is similar about him this game to the previous game. Whether right or wrong, i that forms intrinsic value for me.


DF is antagonistic in his scum game, for example I was getting warm on putting his partner calix up for lynch. He would then take little things and force a argument/fight to get me ofd the track I wanted to go on.

It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town.

Also as town he is usually what i consider a trailblazer. Mafia shoots him a lot early for beong right or looking in strange places. Here I sort od feel he just exists pretty static and hes sidelined.

Now I think this is fair to say df was active eod however what he did, did not help scum either... but who knew that hf wasnt goingb to go rs. @hf could probably answer if df pushed him away from voting tina at all though.

A little. Like, he questioned it, which is part of why I'm scumreading him.

Mderg going to scum partner df for possible shennannies is weird, but no more weird than suiciding instead of trying to get me lynched or at least staying put. It does make me waffle a bit on df though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 09 2018 01:29 GMT
#1496
On February 09 2018 10:22 Damdred wrote:
like lets assume that tina is town, df auccessfully pushed hf (maybe) to not vote town tina instead hf goes onto his scum partnwr mderg when the other people on mdeeg are afk.

and that to me just doesnt necessarily make sense to me either meh. of course hf is unlredictable and hf could of just voted tina ehhh
hmm ok. im going to get off my ass and do that collation.

i still dont really understand how EoD1 unfolded
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 09 2018 01:33 GMT
#1497
On February 09 2018 10:26 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 10:16 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 09:05 rsoultin wrote:
I would also like to know why you think Ian is summarizing the thread mocsta. I agree with Joni that they're at least different than the conclusions most people are making.


OK, I shall dive for you.

On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [nothing new] +
Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order

Town:
Holyflare
Mocsta
Koshi
Ritoky
Trfel

These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed.


+ Show Spoiler [Nothing new] +

Town Reads:
Disformation
Conversion
Rayn

Idk maybe?
prp
+ Show Spoiler [+ no strong thread consensus] +


+ Show Spoiler [DF or rsoultin is nothing new.] +
scum
DF

Rsoultin
+ Show Spoiler [+Pairings irrelevant as 1 lynch a day] +



Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game.

+ Show Spoiler [Maintain D1 consistency] +
First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off.


+ Show Spoiler [most sense compared to what?] +
It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal.


+ Show Spoiler [weak DF reason, already commented] +
DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all.


+ Show Spoiler [already commented] +
I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self.


+ Show Spoiler [agree Mocsta=scum?!?] +
Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts


+ Show Spoiler [perhaps new] +
Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game.
Overall a summary post. New insight are superficial comments with no basis behind it.

This is a more "wall-of-text" version of mderg summary post that says a lot about nothing.
As a reminder:
On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love.


Damdred: Nothing
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum.
Rels: Nothing
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now.
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking.
Holyflare:
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point:

Some of this reads like you're saying he's summarizing thread sentiment and some as if his reads are static. Is that correct?
I suppose so. I have moved on from that for now.

Trfel read conversion as strong town, and df (with damdred at end) as good scumspects.

Im in the process of reevaluating my conversion/df position.

Unfortunately, i wasnt around EoD1 so i dont get the same sense of urgency not being there (i.e. constant F5 lol).
I probably have to collate thread with votes to best understand.

sigh

Yeah I think this doesn't matter much; it was obviously an impression that didn't turn out to be as strong on review. Thanks for playing ball...thought it might help me with Ian's alignment, but I think I have another way.

Okay. I'm out. It's like 2:30am and my brains beginning to get lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 01:39 GMT
#1498
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 01:40 GMT
#1499
When i say drove him away, i mean he argued woth him and it helped lead him not to vote with his scum read df.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 09 2018 01:43 GMT
#1500
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.
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