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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:25 GMT
#1441
On February 09 2018 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you answer my post where i told you damdred's reads are not what you said they are?

whats there to say?
its a regurgitation of other peoples comments with no insight.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:26 GMT
#1442
On February 09 2018 08:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 09 2018 08:07 Mocsta wrote:
If town!rsoultin legitimately thought mderg was town at the time, I can make sense of those actions.

The main issue I had was the rsoultin progression, because prior she was considering mderg scum.
This is why I asked her about it; but I think its completely legit that in the heat of the DF/HF bragging argument, she tilted leading to the actions that took place.

this smells like bullshit.
Rayn, at least have the courtesy to show full context instead of trimming my post

"Why.. EoD 1 in the last game, town Damdred (wagon leader) refused to vote his town reads, and basically threw his vote away IIRC (or perhaps put it on DF, who wasnt a town read regardless)."

There is no context in what you posted in addition to that because rsoultin is not Damdred.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 23:26 GMT
#1443
Vote was not wasted in nsm, if rels hadnt of been stupid we could of lynched df that day.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 23:27 GMT
#1444
I sort of want mocsta to find where i regurigitated all my reads from.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:27 GMT
#1445
On February 09 2018 08:25 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2018 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
can you answer my post where i told you damdred's reads are not what you said they are?

whats there to say?
its a regurgitation of other peoples comments with no insight.

i disagree and i asked you why you think so.
so can you just answer, orr not?
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 23:31 GMT
#1446
and i think he disxounta where i go more in depth later on, like i get hf/koshi hating me for how i view the game.

but i dont feel like i copied anyones reads
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:31 GMT
#1447
On February 09 2018 06:58 disformation wrote:
hmm... im trying to read hf vs damdy.
i kinda want to do a rephrase just to see if my tired brain understands:
hf is saying that he trs the "pure" wagon without good reason. plus him thinking that rsoultin is scum too creates a problem, because then damdy giving trs on hf and mocsta (on mderg) makes no sense? right?
damdy now says he has proper reason to tr these ppl not only that they were on the wagon? and reasons to scumread the ppl he is scumreading?

did i read that right?
agreeing with rayn... a df/rs/mderg scumteam is just super confusing to me... like wtf were they doing in that case

Yes, that is correct.

Essentially: the "pure" wagon all town argument is not valid in Damdred world, is because he asserts both mderg & rsoultin are scum.

If anything he should be more concerned about why they swapped between the 2; as mderg was not a lynch threat.

This is in particular evident given I was a Damdred scum read all game; and jumped ship ~10hrs before deadline and also AFK.

Instead, I am pure town and a big hole in story presents itself.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:33 GMT
#1448
On February 09 2018 08:31 Damdred wrote:
but i dont feel like i copied anyones reads

you certainly didn't, and especially where you ended up on with them is not a copy (which would be logical if what Mocsta says is true -- like you would call some scrub townies scum instead of the most unlikely scenario in almost anyone's mind).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:33 GMT
#1449
On February 09 2018 08:31 Mocsta wrote:
Essentially: the "pure" wagon all town argument is not valid in Damdred world, is because he asserts both mderg & rsoultin are scum.

If anything he should be more concerned about why they swapped between the 2; as mderg was not a lynch threat.

This is in particular evident given I was a Damdred scum read all game; and jumped ship ~10hrs before deadline and also AFK.

Instead, I am pure town and a big hole in story presents itself.

You jsut copied Holyflare's read. Does that make you mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:34 GMT
#1450
100% fucking copied.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 23:35 GMT
#1451
...and i answered that? I know I answeres that
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:35 GMT
#1452
On February 09 2018 08:26 Damdred wrote:
Vote was not wasted in nsm, if rels hadnt of been stupid we could of lynched df that day.
No, same situation as this game.

Need in excess of 1 vote.

On February 09 2018 08:27 Damdred wrote:
I sort of want mocsta to find where i regurigitated all my reads from.

The Disfo comments were a spit out from me without any filter diving

Either way, im your 'pure" wagon town read, so why does it matter. This is my opinion as TOWN.

On February 09 2018 08:31 Damdred wrote:
and i think he disxounta where i go more in depth later on, like i get hf/koshi hating me for how i view the game.

but i dont feel like i copied anyones reads
perhaps you have come to the same conclusions as others on your own; but i still not identify any new insights.


What do you agree about Rayn thought process?
If its not clear to you, his top reads are rsoultin and mocsta.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:35 GMT
#1453
Okay i think i have done enough, sleepy time. Damdred don't let Mocsta get under your skin. Do something else than read this shit if you are getting annoyed.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 23:37 GMT
#1454
Yes or no mocsta, have you read the entirity of the thread?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 23:37 GMT
#1455
##vote Mocsta
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:37 GMT
#1456
Rayn

LOUD != LEADERSHIP

You are embarrassing yourself.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:38 GMT
#1457
On February 09 2018 08:37 Damdred wrote:
Yes or no mocsta, have you read the entirity of the thread?
Yes sir. What would you like to discuss?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 08 2018 23:40 GMT
#1458
I gave my first disformation townread before you reentered the thread yesterday after lynch btw.

And honestly i dont even know what to think about you right now truthfully.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2018 23:50 GMT
#1459
On February 09 2018 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I gave my first disformation townread before you reentered the thread yesterday after lynch btw.

And honestly i dont even know what to think about you right now truthfully.

Why were you so angry earlier? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it doesn't align with what usually sets you off.

Also I find it weird that you're not even considering a world where I'm town after townreading me earlier. Like I get that you think mderg is unlikely to do that if I'm town but you're good at reading me and I would at least expect some sort of consideration for multiple explanations even if you arrive at the same conclusions.

Also, gg truffle
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 08 2018 23:53 GMT
#1460
On February 09 2018 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I gave my first disformation townread before you reentered the thread yesterday after lynch btw.

And honestly i dont even know what to think about you right now truthfully.
Fair enough. Probably true.

I bet you dont. You are probably thinking if I am lynchable.

Humour me:
Why should I be ashamed of myself? - as per your first post in the game.
I treat that as indicative of a town read on rsoultin (i.e. TvS in tina favour); and towards EoD1 you advocate that Tina is acting increasingly townish.

Following mderg: you issue a town read on me for a combination of:
       A - "Pure" wagon voter
       B1 - Different meta to previous scum game. I think "more confrontational" was your word choice.
       B2 - During Night 1 I was willing to relax my scum read on you (which is a subset of B1 really)

So right now, I am exerting even more of item C, and you dont know how to perceive me; should I not become an even stronger town read now?

Why am I missing?
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