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On February 09 2018 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
In fact if you have a scum read on mocsta during the day and he just afks on mderg at a point when mderg wasn't even getting lynched and he's in a completely different timezone that means he can't be around why wouldn't that spark your interest that maybe he could be bussing? You think there's two mafia wagons on day 1 and have just arbitrarily said all of those people are town despite multiple people on that wagon just hopping on for free credit?

Your town read on me is also separated from the rest and it's really odd. I'm town because I hopped onto mderg when I did? There was no alternative in your universe. I get home from work and mafia partner mderg is up for lynch or mafia partner rsoultin is up for lynch. Why don't I get that sweet credit and save a potential roleblocker from dying? Doesn't even become part of your read at this point. I'm just town and I don't get it.

On February 09 2018 07:47 Conversion wrote:
It seems I cannot vote for myself. That is stupid.

You should all lynch me.

On February 09 2018 07:07 ritoky wrote:
like if df is mafia it is because he didn't have a good reason to read rels town, but then i made one up for him and put it in his mouth and he agreed to it. but if he was legit angle shooting, he is le town.

i have faith in humanity, so town.

On February 09 2018 06:22 Damdred wrote:
@Rayn, Ok here is how it is in my mind.

Mocsta had reasoning to swap off of Mderg and hop back onto Tina. He spent a lot of hia filter preasuring her, moving against her. If mderg and mocsta were zcum together it would be easy at that point in ths thread to move and strengthen the rsoultin lynch if she is towm and he is scum. It makes no sense for him to lynch mderg espe ialy given how he played last game.

If both are mafia, it doesnt clear him at all though. And ill readily admit that, eapecially if rsoultin is a better role in that regard. (i mean his vote)

Besides that I think mocsta reevaluating on me when it was much easier to go with thread sentiment during the night was townie and different from theblast scum game he played. In the same vein when night started he was super antagonksti. towards me and set i was scum, but softened and tried to find things.

I think his vote looks good to me, the way he approa hes the game is different. tonally he is also didderent as he seems much more confrontational in review.

As for df I dont know exactly what the plan was. tina nor mderg really never seemed to have a lot of thread pull necessarily and it seemed no ome really got up to a momentum to go against them in the vote department.

I thought i did explaim about df, he fought woth hf and i thought the fight disnt feel like t v t. hf came out looking better. df has been misconstruing different things to make people look bad, me and my vote for reasons that arent teue, hf in the fight.

One of the things ive tried to read df as, as s um is hes a bit more hostile as scum than town I think. So it sort of fits here to.

And I just think you are town. You are pushing on little things that you think are inconsistant like the rs sk thing. and this conversation we are having now instead of teying to bury me.

I mean I could just be reading the game like im an idiot i guess? But I kinda think im just right.

On February 09 2018 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For those eyes only who played in the last game:
If conversion is mafia teh scum qt looks liek this:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 09 2018 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia.

On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.

outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not.

On February 08 2018 06:53 disformation wrote:
possible that scum was commited on a wagon and couldnt figure out how to switch without looking bad.

On February 08 2018 07:09 disformation wrote:

mderg (5):: ritoky, Mocsta, trfel, Koshi, Holyflare
rsoultin (4): Conversion, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Damdred
Trfel (1): prplhz
darthfoley (2): mderg, rsoultin

Not Voting (1): Rels

ritoky as explained.
trfel did some waffling, so he could have made it onto either wagon imo.
koshi's eod seems to make sense.
holyflare as explained.
prplhz didnt give a fuck. so prolly not him either.
conv did some waffling, so he could have switched too.

rest i need to look at again

On February 09 2018 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I think i can be biased but i honestly believe Mocsta -- based on what he wrote on rsoultin earlier in the game should have been voting for her instead of mderg. I agree i can be wrong, but that's the feeling i got fro mhis posts. Like the last game i followed D1 loosely and i was 100% certain Mocsta had voted for DF day i and during the start of D2 i cleared him in my mind in obs qt just to look at the votecount and i was like "wtf, why wasn't this guys vote on df?". I kind of see the same thing here. Another thing is that he made a slip or a "slip" that he has done before. He later on tried to pain it as a joke. What is the point of joking like that? I don't think he is telling the truth about him joking, i think he genuinely slipped like he has done before and made up a reason for it.


I think df cannot be mafia if rsoultin is. I think there is your problem rn. If df and rsoultin are the final 2 mafia then mafia D1 play was "let's all call each other scum not not even really try to do anything" and that is just fucking reatrded. I am not quite sure why you think this is possible. I understand your reasoning, i might even agree with it but never with rsoultin being scum with him.

Like the reason i read df scum D1 was because he used very weird wording. He thought i am mafia because, as he said "He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong". Now if you are town, what is this.... Would you BELIEVE i made wrong points? No, you know if i did or not. Even worse, if you think i am mafia FOR IT, i am obviously bullshitting, so there is nothing to BELIEVE, i am bullshitting, you point out where, and that's it. Case closed. But instead he "believe i might have made wrong points". What is this even?

On February 09 2018 07:58 disformation wrote:

*shrugs*
think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that.

other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like:




looks fairly straightforward to me

On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
What I don't understand is why scum!Damdred votes rsoultin at 5v3. I think it would make a lot more sense in that scenario to just hammer mderg and try to gain town cred from it.

If Damdred is scum, his vote + Mderg's lack of vote on rsoultin is probably the least optimal play ever. I just don't get it

On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
Also I don't underestimate rayn's QT post to be accurate. It would actually be quite the clever play

On February 09 2018 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Wel lyou didn't answer anything since the first quote in my post clearly says you want to look at people who were on rsoultin. Then you did something else and now you tell how you ended up from there to somewhere else.

Aka you never say why you, after saying you wanna look at the other wagon, didn't actually do so but did something else instead.

On February 09 2018 06:59 ritoky wrote:


good call dood.

On February 09 2018 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What do you mean by this?