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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 06 2018 23:54 GMT
#421
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 06 2018 23:55 GMT
#422
On February 07 2018 08:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:43 ritoky wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:28 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia
Didn't play in it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia
Was judge. Dnu how hard I scumread you but at worst I nominated you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/519746-generic-mini-mafia
I was mafia in it. You were 15 times in my filter. 0 times I called you mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/518289-im-a-cop-you-idiot-mafia-towns-revenge
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512552-palmars-purge-crisis-and-turmoil-in-liquidia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia
On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.

On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.

On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.

On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town

On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.

AND THE KICKER IS

YOU WERE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eventually I figured it out though:
On May 26 2016 08:26 Koshi wrote:
ritoky broke his gameplan to defend HF which he had no business to defend. Proof? The reason he used. Nothing in the thread indicated fear lynching. Both marv and Palmar had reasoning and some other guy as well. And JAT and myself lynched HF for the retarded piece of shit selfvote.

While his push on Rels wasn't horrible when I read it, and it kinda was a very long shot for an attempt to save a scumbuddy, the fact he ended up on HF is ridiculous. Why would he end up on HF and not just stick on his Rels read? There was no reason for him to eventually end up on HF. Nothing. Nada.

I will reread ritoky and his case on Rels and other cases but in this moment I am 100% sure he is mafia. And I am so sure I am sure I will not change my point of view bar some really really really damning evidence on somebody else.


HF was also mafia. And I was shot N1. Goddamn I was good in 2017





These were all your games for 18 months. Went back to May 2016 and your filter doesn't go more back.
So I really don't know why you are such a whiny bitch atm.
I didn't scumread you in 1.5 years.


Hm, maybe I am wrong and my memory is colored incorrectly by old experiences or that you default to calling me mafia a lot as mafia. I know that dota game you railed on me pretty hard for a good long time. I also know that paint game you nominated me almost every phase until I became confirmed town. But also considering 4 of the 8 games we didn't play together and you effectively discarding 2 of them; it is a pretty awful sample size.

Nonetheless I stand corrected, and will proceed to stop my whiny bitchyness.

Discarded what? The games I am mafia in? I highly highly doubt I called you mafia in those that it broke your spirit. I don't play as scum like that. If you like I can read them. But why would I because I know you are wrong. So I didn't discard shit.

And the fact I nominated you doesn't mean shit. You should have not have this "disappointing" dad feeling because you get nominated. And I know a reason why I nominated you is because you insulted the judges ingame for no fucking reason at all.

Anyway. w.e.


I think I insulted you guys because you kept listening to the reads of a guy who I felt was clearly mafia (and I think turned out to be). But I agree it is neither here nor there.

Honestly, thank you though. I never would have gone back and looked if I had an incorrect mental block/aversion to you; I would have just kept assuming it was right. I will try to get past it now/going forward and not associate it with you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 06 2018 23:56 GMT
#423
On February 07 2018 08:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:23 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:21 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:18 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later.

Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation
LOL
I dont think you are playing like last game.

However, I also find you are less globally transparent than your recent town games in the database.

What I continue to not understand is: You think I am scum for Reasons XYZ.
Are you not concerned that it has been me suggesting you are not scum - for being comfortable in the spotlight?

The way you talk about me, at the very least, I would expect you to latch onto this stuff.




Talking about Rayn's read on me, not yours.

Your question suggests that mafia never white knight someone. You defending me has no alignment indication, especially when 3-4 people have floated my name.
This is my problem with you this game, if you are town.
You take anything from my filter, and construe it into the worst-possible outcome.

Why does it have to be so black and white?

Im really perplexed by this.


I am confused....isn't the reason he doesn't like you because he feels you made a mountain out of a mole hill and basically made an unnecessary wall of text trying to enforce a felony for what he felt was a misdemeanor? How exactly is that filter manipulation?
Hes commenting beyond the "wall of text"
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 06 2018 23:59 GMT
#424
On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 00:00 GMT
#425
On February 07 2018 08:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:52 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:43 ritoky wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:28 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia
Didn't play in it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia
Was judge. Dnu how hard I scumread you but at worst I nominated you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/519746-generic-mini-mafia
I was mafia in it. You were 15 times in my filter. 0 times I called you mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/518289-im-a-cop-you-idiot-mafia-towns-revenge
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512552-palmars-purge-crisis-and-turmoil-in-liquidia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia
On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.

On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.

On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.

On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town

On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.

AND THE KICKER IS

YOU WERE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eventually I figured it out though:
On May 26 2016 08:26 Koshi wrote:
ritoky broke his gameplan to defend HF which he had no business to defend. Proof? The reason he used. Nothing in the thread indicated fear lynching. Both marv and Palmar had reasoning and some other guy as well. And JAT and myself lynched HF for the retarded piece of shit selfvote.

While his push on Rels wasn't horrible when I read it, and it kinda was a very long shot for an attempt to save a scumbuddy, the fact he ended up on HF is ridiculous. Why would he end up on HF and not just stick on his Rels read? There was no reason for him to eventually end up on HF. Nothing. Nada.

I will reread ritoky and his case on Rels and other cases but in this moment I am 100% sure he is mafia. And I am so sure I am sure I will not change my point of view bar some really really really damning evidence on somebody else.


HF was also mafia. And I was shot N1. Goddamn I was good in 2017





These were all your games for 18 months. Went back to May 2016 and your filter doesn't go more back.
So I really don't know why you are such a whiny bitch atm.
I didn't scumread you in 1.5 years.


Hm, maybe I am wrong and my memory is colored incorrectly by old experiences or that you default to calling me mafia a lot as mafia. I know that dota game you railed on me pretty hard for a good long time. I also know that paint game you nominated me almost every phase until I became confirmed town. But also considering 4 of the 8 games we didn't play together and you effectively discarding 2 of them; it is a pretty awful sample size.

Nonetheless I stand corrected, and will proceed to stop my whiny bitchyness.

Discarded what? The games I am mafia in? I highly highly doubt I called you mafia in those that it broke your spirit. I don't play as scum like that. If you like I can read them. But why would I because I know you are wrong. So I didn't discard shit.

And the fact I nominated you doesn't mean shit. You should have not have this "disappointing" dad feeling because you get nominated. And I know a reason why I nominated you is because you insulted the judges ingame for no fucking reason at all.

Anyway. w.e.


I think I insulted you guys because you kept listening to the reads of a guy who I felt was clearly mafia (and I think turned out to be). But I agree it is neither here nor there.

Honestly, thank you though. I never would have gone back and looked if I had an incorrect mental block/aversion to you; I would have just kept assuming it was right. I will try to get past it now/going forward and not associate it with you.

It's fine. I probably did it once long long ago. It is how I used to play.
I had a good night of sleep.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 07 2018 00:01 GMT
#426
You called rels town one time df. It was strange and off-putting. But I love your kick ass, take names, and fuck off tone. It makes me slightly hard.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
February 07 2018 00:02 GMT
#427
Day One Vote Count


rsoultin (5): Mocsta, Conversion, Trfel, darthfoley, mderg
Koshi (1): Holyflare
mderg (1):: Koshi
Conversion (1): rsoultin
Holyflare (0): mderg
ritoky (0): rsoultin

Not Voting (5): Damdred, ritoky, Rels, raynpelikoneet, prplhz

rsoultin is currently the designated lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Feb 07 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 07 2018 00:04 GMT
#428
On February 07 2018 09:01 ritoky wrote:
You called rels town one time df. It was strange and off-putting. But I love your kick ass, take names, and fuck off tone. It makes me slightly hard.


I have one small reason to town read Rels but it's very weak. I would put him slightly above null on the town side.

I appreciate your boner, but I can only hope it's a town boner and not a buddy boner
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 07 2018 00:09 GMT
#429
On February 07 2018 08:52 darthfoley wrote:
HF what do you make of Mocsta defaulting to Damdred being the best lynch option ATM?


I haven't read a single word Mocsta has written because it's always over my arbitrary maximum allowed reading word count.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 07 2018 00:10 GMT
#430
Hey mocsta, I have a great question for you. Since you haven't rescinded the whole bomb thing I don't think....why are you voting rsoul? In your eyes she gonna die anyways right?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 07 2018 00:22 GMT
#431
Well you people know rsoultin and I read some meta reasons but I don't really see it. Without the meta.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 00:23 GMT
#432
On February 07 2018 09:10 ritoky wrote:
Hey mocsta, I have a great question for you. Since you haven't rescinded the whole bomb thing I don't think....why are you voting rsoul? In your eyes she gonna die anyways right?
i can rescind 1min before deadline.
5 votes now, doesnt mean 5 votes @ deadline.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 07 2018 00:26 GMT
#433
On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?
I didnt even know Rels was in this game lol.

DF is really salty, and I was treating that as enjoying spotlight, but perhaps is just bitter prick about being scum twice in a row.

You are continuing to misconstrue everything I say. I havent decided Damdred is the best lynch.

hmmmm, im starting to see rsoultin/damdred/df team with conversion as SK.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 07 2018 00:30 GMT
#434
On February 07 2018 09:26 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?
I didnt even know Rels was in this game lol.

DF is really salty, and I was treating that as enjoying spotlight, but perhaps is just bitter prick about being scum twice in a row.

You are continuing to misconstrue everything I say. I havent decided Damdred is the best lynch.

hmmmm, im starting to see rsoultin/damdred/df team with conversion as SK.


I mean you literally write you are considering Damdred the best day 1 lynch. What I think you meant is you are considering whether he is the best day one lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 07 2018 00:31 GMT
#435
Also I'm officially at peak this wagon is going too fast levels.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 07 2018 00:35 GMT
#436
Has anyone in this game thrown out rsoultin being town other than koshi?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 07 2018 00:36 GMT
#437
me
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 00:37 GMT
#438
Why is this Mocsta fella calling me SK?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 07 2018 00:38 GMT
#439
On February 07 2018 09:26 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
Again. why jump to worst-conclusions.
Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.
The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent).

Pray tell me though.
Do you see anything towny about damdred so far?
Flu or not.
Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better.


I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg.

Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him.

Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So...

1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good?
2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse?

I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?
I didnt even know Rels was in this game lol.

DF is really salty, and I was treating that as enjoying spotlight, but perhaps is just bitter prick about being scum twice in a row.

You are continuing to misconstrue everything I say. I havent decided Damdred is the best lynch.

hmmmm, im starting to see rsoultin/damdred/df team with conversion as SK.


You literally just said you are considering Damdred to be the best day 1 lynch
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 07 2018 00:40 GMT
#440
On February 07 2018 09:23 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 07 2018 09:10 ritoky wrote:
Hey mocsta, I have a great question for you. Since you haven't rescinded the whole bomb thing I don't think....why are you voting rsoul? In your eyes she gonna die anyways right?
i can rescind 1min before deadline.
5 votes now, doesnt mean 5 votes @ deadline.


well i meant rescind the claim. i kinda thought it was fake and a reaction test for a good while. but you never took it back so.....

but that doesn't make mechanical sense? like if you try to lynch her and refund your bomb you risk just dying with your shot; whereas if you place the bomb on her and try to lynch some1 else you require there to be a mechanical answer in the game to prevent your kill?

eh i shouldn't bother directing blues if he is claiming blue, just let him do his shit and worry about it in the days to come.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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