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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 06 2018 23:32 GMT
#401
On February 07 2018 08:29 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
And why does that make that post bad? You literally acknowledge you didn't want to talk about the game because of Mocsta's wall of text etc. I haven't even read his wall of text but Rayn is saying you have a scum read that you aren't pushing and you're not interested in getting involved with the game. I feel much the same way. It's the opposite of a bad post imo.


You're very dense

Me not wanting to read Mocsta's wall of text =/= me not wanting to read the game. I can interact with the game without dealing with big ass confusing posts. That's like elementary logic


Perhaps you're misunderstanding. I, myself, feel that you are not interacting with the game AT ALL and are being a sideline person that does nothing and has nothing to say. Rayn has echoed that in that post that you linked. So, when Rayn says that you aren't interacting with the game you respond with you don't want to read posts like Mocsta's instead.

I'm pretty sure it is you who is misinterpreting things. Also needlessly insulting people. Probably mafia.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:32 GMT
#402
On February 07 2018 08:28 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia
Didn't play in it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia
Was judge. Dnu how hard I scumread you but at worst I nominated you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/519746-generic-mini-mafia
I was mafia in it. You were 15 times in my filter. 0 times I called you mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/518289-im-a-cop-you-idiot-mafia-towns-revenge
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512552-palmars-purge-crisis-and-turmoil-in-liquidia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.

AND THE KICKER IS

YOU WERE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eventually I figured it out though:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 08:26 Koshi wrote:
ritoky broke his gameplan to defend HF which he had no business to defend. Proof? The reason he used. Nothing in the thread indicated fear lynching. Both marv and Palmar had reasoning and some other guy as well. And JAT and myself lynched HF for the retarded piece of shit selfvote.

While his push on Rels wasn't horrible when I read it, and it kinda was a very long shot for an attempt to save a scumbuddy, the fact he ended up on HF is ridiculous. Why would he end up on HF and not just stick on his Rels read? There was no reason for him to eventually end up on HF. Nothing. Nada.

I will reread ritoky and his case on Rels and other cases but in this moment I am 100% sure he is mafia. And I am so sure I am sure I will not change my point of view bar some really really really damning evidence on somebody else.


HF was also mafia. And I was shot N1. Goddamn I was good in 2017





These were all your games for 18 months. Went back to May 2016 and your filter doesn't go more back.
So I really don't know why you are such a whiny bitch atm.
I didn't scumread you in 1.5 years.


I don't think mafia!Koshi goes through all this effort
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:34 GMT
#403
On February 07 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:29 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
And why does that make that post bad? You literally acknowledge you didn't want to talk about the game because of Mocsta's wall of text etc. I haven't even read his wall of text but Rayn is saying you have a scum read that you aren't pushing and you're not interested in getting involved with the game. I feel much the same way. It's the opposite of a bad post imo.


You're very dense

Me not wanting to read Mocsta's wall of text =/= me not wanting to read the game. I can interact with the game without dealing with big ass confusing posts. That's like elementary logic


Perhaps you're misunderstanding. I, myself, feel that you are not interacting with the game AT ALL and are being a sideline person that does nothing and has nothing to say. Rayn has echoed that in that post that you linked. So, when Rayn says that you aren't interacting with the game you respond with you don't want to read posts like Mocsta's instead.

I'm pretty sure it is you who is misinterpreting things. Also needlessly insulting people. Probably mafia.


And I am bussing rsoultin. You, and only you, have foiled my dastardly plan! Rats! We must abort our mission.

I am definitely interacting with the game. Sorry you disagree. Now bye
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:35 GMT
#404
It does make me happy that last game HF defended me heavily and this game he is suspicious of me. It just proves that some people really do have the #GOD tier read on you.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:36 GMT
#405
Is anyone else here besides HF? Trying to find people to interact about the game with
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 06 2018 23:36 GMT
#406
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 06 2018 23:38 GMT
#407
Let me get this really succinct and clear as a time line:

Rayn says that Darthfoley isn't talking about Rsoultin and that is okay if he does talk about other stuff.
Rayn says Darthfoley isn't talking about anything though.
Rayn says Darthfoley has a scum read he isn't pushing.
Darthfoley responds saying he would be happy to talk about stuff if it wasn't so long winded like Mocsta's posts.

In my eyes you have entirely misrepresented Rayn's argument and manipulated it to be you're not talking about Mocsta when in fact he's saying you're not participating in the game like you normally would as town. Rayn says it looks like you're on the sidelines posting about a scum read but not pushing it in the slightest (like you did last game with Mocsta).


So please, elaborate for my very dense brain why this is such a bad post that requires you to repeatedly insult an individual's talent and intellect.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 06 2018 23:40 GMT
#408
On February 07 2018 08:29 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
And why does that make that post bad? You literally acknowledge you didn't want to talk about the game because of Mocsta's wall of text etc. I haven't even read his wall of text but Rayn is saying you have a scum read that you aren't pushing and you're not interested in getting involved with the game. I feel much the same way. It's the opposite of a bad post imo.


You're very dense

Me not wanting to read Mocsta's wall of text =/= me not wanting to read the game. I can interact with the game without dealing with big ass confusing posts. That's like elementary logic

On February 07 2018 08:35 darthfoley wrote:
It does make me happy that last game HF defended me heavily and this game he is suspicious of me. It just proves that some people really do have the #GOD tier read on you.

On February 07 2018 08:36 darthfoley wrote:
Is anyone else here besides HF? Trying to find people to interact about the game with


This is an exceptionally abrasive response for really quite a rudimentary question of how was Rayn's post bad.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:41 GMT
#409
On February 07 2018 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
Let me get this really succinct and clear as a time line:

Rayn says that Darthfoley isn't talking about Rsoultin and that is okay if he does talk about other stuff.
Rayn says Darthfoley isn't talking about anything though.
Rayn says Darthfoley has a scum read he isn't pushing.
Darthfoley responds saying he would be happy to talk about stuff if it wasn't so long winded like Mocsta's posts.

In my eyes you have entirely misrepresented Rayn's argument and manipulated it to be you're not talking about Mocsta when in fact he's saying you're not participating in the game like you normally would as town. Rayn says it looks like you're on the sidelines posting about a scum read but not pushing it in the slightest (like you did last game with Mocsta).


So please, elaborate for my very dense brain why this is such a bad post that requires you to repeatedly insult an individual's talent and intellect.


1. Rayn says darthfoley isn't talking about rsoultin when he actually is.
2. Rayn says darthfoley isn't talking about anything when he actually is
3. Rayn says darthfoley has a scum read he isn't pushing which depends on your definition of not pushing
4. I am happy to talk about stuff that isn't long winded like Mocsta's post. Which I have.

There you go
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:43 GMT
#410
I've played like 3-4 games in a row where I have had significant pressure on D1 and it's annoying and frustrating, especially when the accusations are false or lazy as hell. So yea, i'm gonna be salty and I don't really want lectures from people who flame the fuck out of other players acting high and mighty about it.

People accusing me of being a sideliner somehow should take a look at mderg's filter to grasp the meaning of a sideliner.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 06 2018 23:43 GMT
#411
That was a much better response and I acknowledge it as partially correct. Thank you.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 06 2018 23:43 GMT
#412
On February 07 2018 08:28 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia
Didn't play in it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia
Was judge. Dnu how hard I scumread you but at worst I nominated you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/519746-generic-mini-mafia
I was mafia in it. You were 15 times in my filter. 0 times I called you mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/518289-im-a-cop-you-idiot-mafia-towns-revenge
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512552-palmars-purge-crisis-and-turmoil-in-liquidia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.

AND THE KICKER IS

YOU WERE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eventually I figured it out though:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 08:26 Koshi wrote:
ritoky broke his gameplan to defend HF which he had no business to defend. Proof? The reason he used. Nothing in the thread indicated fear lynching. Both marv and Palmar had reasoning and some other guy as well. And JAT and myself lynched HF for the retarded piece of shit selfvote.

While his push on Rels wasn't horrible when I read it, and it kinda was a very long shot for an attempt to save a scumbuddy, the fact he ended up on HF is ridiculous. Why would he end up on HF and not just stick on his Rels read? There was no reason for him to eventually end up on HF. Nothing. Nada.

I will reread ritoky and his case on Rels and other cases but in this moment I am 100% sure he is mafia. And I am so sure I am sure I will not change my point of view bar some really really really damning evidence on somebody else.


HF was also mafia. And I was shot N1. Goddamn I was good in 2017





These were all your games for 18 months. Went back to May 2016 and your filter doesn't go more back.
So I really don't know why you are such a whiny bitch atm.
I didn't scumread you in 1.5 years.


Hm, maybe I am wrong and my memory is colored incorrectly by old experiences or that you default to calling me mafia a lot as mafia. I know that dota game you railed on me pretty hard for a good long time. I also know that paint game you nominated me almost every phase until I became confirmed town. But also considering 4 of the 8 games we didn't play together and you effectively discarding 2 of them; it is a pretty awful sample size.

Nonetheless I stand corrected, and will proceed to stop my whiny bitchyness.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:46 GMT
#413
On February 06 2018 15:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:45 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:38 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:28 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:14 darthfoley wrote:
I would just like to say that I shamelessly agree with thread sentiment that rsoultin pointing out the SK thing in the way that she did is scummy

i generally skip past rayn's post because he takes four paragraphs to explain what could be explained in two sentences. public service announcement
More importantly; considering the bolb, what do you make of the interaction between rsoultin and I?


I don't think either of you look particularly townie, but she looks scummy. I kind of skip past lots of your wall of text posts.

Fwiw I think conversion's intro sounded kind of forced but the way rsoultin called it out seemed scummy. Like something opportunistic mafia might latch onto to have "something."

Waiting for half the game to play. I don't really have any Town reads yet
i dont understand how you can brush off what im writing: when you state i am possibly scum; and the person I am writing about looks scummy.

I dont have a problem if you think my "wall of text" is simple; but I would appreciate if you can highlight why that is so.


1. Rsoultin latched onto something opportunistic
2. She got defensive and pissy with questions to answer questions when called out
3. She hasn't really started snooping/being cocky yet (game is very young so this isn't a truly fair point)


2 and 3 are good points. 1 is not.


A reminder for those who claim I never talked about rsoultin or made my read clear.

Btw, #2 and #3 are still true like 18 hours later.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:47 GMT
#414
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.


I'd really like mderg to expand on this point because tbh I have no idea where Mocsta is going outside of his rsoultin read.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 06 2018 23:48 GMT
#415
On February 07 2018 08:43 darthfoley wrote:
I've played like 3-4 games in a row where I have had significant pressure on D1 and it's annoying and frustrating, especially when the accusations are false or lazy as hell. So yea, i'm gonna be salty and I don't really want lectures from people who flame the fuck out of other players acting high and mighty about it.

People accusing me of being a sideliner somehow should take a look at mderg's filter to grasp the meaning of a sideliner.


I don't think I really ever flame the fuck out of other players but okay.

You should probably realise why people scum read you though and acknowledge that they shouldn't be put down for it. You have mentioned how you've been shot night 1 repeatedly as town and from what I've played with you you have been a good player. So, when you don't post as much and aren't at the forefront of this game ready to be a prime shot target night 1 this game then naturally people are going to be suspicious of you. It's not a slight on your character, it's an admirable thing to be called mafia for. It means you're generally good.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now and let you do some more things (like push Rsoultin and Mocsta) and I'll re-evaluate when it comes to needing to do that. Hope that's okay.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:49 GMT
#416
On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.

I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.

Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.

Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.

Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.

other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point.


So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:51 GMT
#417
On February 07 2018 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 07 2018 08:43 darthfoley wrote:
I've played like 3-4 games in a row where I have had significant pressure on D1 and it's annoying and frustrating, especially when the accusations are false or lazy as hell. So yea, i'm gonna be salty and I don't really want lectures from people who flame the fuck out of other players acting high and mighty about it.

People accusing me of being a sideliner somehow should take a look at mderg's filter to grasp the meaning of a sideliner.


I don't think I really ever flame the fuck out of other players but okay.

You should probably realise why people scum read you though and acknowledge that they shouldn't be put down for it. You have mentioned how you've been shot night 1 repeatedly as town and from what I've played with you you have been a good player. So, when you don't post as much and aren't at the forefront of this game ready to be a prime shot target night 1 this game then naturally people are going to be suspicious of you. It's not a slight on your character, it's an admirable thing to be called mafia for. It means you're generally good.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now and let you do some more things (like push Rsoultin and Mocsta) and I'll re-evaluate when it comes to needing to do that. Hope that's okay.


Yea sorry for being an ass. It's annoying for me because the timezone differential means that I'm generally active when people aren't and vice versa. I prefer being in the thick of the action and so far I think it's fair to say I've been lazy or unmotivated. Anyways, let's get back to the game
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 06 2018 23:52 GMT
#418
On February 07 2018 08:43 ritoky wrote:
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On February 07 2018 08:28 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia
Didn't play in it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia
Was judge. Dnu how hard I scumread you but at worst I nominated you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/519746-generic-mini-mafia
I was mafia in it. You were 15 times in my filter. 0 times I called you mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/518289-im-a-cop-you-idiot-mafia-towns-revenge
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512552-palmars-purge-crisis-and-turmoil-in-liquidia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia
On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.

On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.

On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.

On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town

On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.

AND THE KICKER IS

YOU WERE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eventually I figured it out though:
On May 26 2016 08:26 Koshi wrote:
ritoky broke his gameplan to defend HF which he had no business to defend. Proof? The reason he used. Nothing in the thread indicated fear lynching. Both marv and Palmar had reasoning and some other guy as well. And JAT and myself lynched HF for the retarded piece of shit selfvote.

While his push on Rels wasn't horrible when I read it, and it kinda was a very long shot for an attempt to save a scumbuddy, the fact he ended up on HF is ridiculous. Why would he end up on HF and not just stick on his Rels read? There was no reason for him to eventually end up on HF. Nothing. Nada.

I will reread ritoky and his case on Rels and other cases but in this moment I am 100% sure he is mafia. And I am so sure I am sure I will not change my point of view bar some really really really damning evidence on somebody else.


HF was also mafia. And I was shot N1. Goddamn I was good in 2017





These were all your games for 18 months. Went back to May 2016 and your filter doesn't go more back.
So I really don't know why you are such a whiny bitch atm.
I didn't scumread you in 1.5 years.


Hm, maybe I am wrong and my memory is colored incorrectly by old experiences or that you default to calling me mafia a lot as mafia. I know that dota game you railed on me pretty hard for a good long time. I also know that paint game you nominated me almost every phase until I became confirmed town. But also considering 4 of the 8 games we didn't play together and you effectively discarding 2 of them; it is a pretty awful sample size.

Nonetheless I stand corrected, and will proceed to stop my whiny bitchyness.

Discarded what? The games I am mafia in? I highly highly doubt I called you mafia in those that it broke your spirit. I don't play as scum like that. If you like I can read them. But why would I because I know you are wrong. So I didn't discard shit.

And the fact I nominated you doesn't mean shit. You should have not have this "disappointing" dad feeling because you get nominated. And I know a reason why I nominated you is because you insulted the judges ingame for no fucking reason at all.

Anyway. w.e.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:52 GMT
#419
HF what do you make of Mocsta defaulting to Damdred being the best lynch option ATM?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 06 2018 23:52 GMT
#420
I mean statistically damdred is more likely mafia than wrong about my alignment, so there's that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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