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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 11:32 GMT
#288
On February 06 2018 20:23 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 06 2018 20:20 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read?


that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment.

so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town.


i mean i was confident until you told me she got nailed for it last game, then i looked and it was kinda true; so i lost some confidence in it. i was banking on using the read i invented years ago to get a sneakster read, but it appears people still plagiarize my reads shamelessly.

trfel took a quote out of context pretty bad, so he doesn't get to sit at the table anymore.

I am sorry but i cannot tell if you are telling the truth or lying about it based on what you posted at the time you supposedly went to check this.

Which was the post Trfel took out of context?


this is the most honest game of mafia i have ever played. i haven't exaggerated anything, lied, or taken anything deliberately out of context yet. which is a wild deviation for me.

On February 06 2018 14:20 Trfel wrote:
I feel like Conversion is highly inconsistent. I'm not sold on him being mafia but I'm pretty suspicious.
On February 06 2018 10:06 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 09:52 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 08:08 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:03 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 05:22 Conversion wrote:
He's actually home. I'm next to him and read his role PM and it said Serial Killer
this is quite funny.
See i thoight before you said YOU were sk

I reread based on ya latest comment saying it was to HF.

When i saw HF say hes "safe" i was drawn to assume SK as well lol
Unusual choice of words, inclusive of vet



This is weird since that wasn't the conclusion I was drawing. Not sure why you are trying to conclude we thought the same thing.

I just assumed safe meant "not mafia," so I just joked about it.
Yeah OK. I think you are nitpicking/overreacting here with the distancing a bit much. But watevz.

I still think the choice of "safe" is unusual, and when coupled with the how he interjected Rayn/rsoultin - in general I find it to be odd play.

However, I am more curious if this is what you truly think is the most relevant part of the game to raise so far?


Fair point on me being nitpicky. That's just how I am. Also, agreed I was being lazy in not bringing up anything related to rsoultin but I do not know what "weird" is in terms of meta. I did find her behavior objectively weirder in randomly nitpicking (to steal your word) on my joke post, and harp on others for it.

Not sure if that makes her mafia, but at this point in time I'd be pretty okay with an rsoultin lynch with what you posted, so I'll sheep
"I'd be pretty okay with an rsoultin lynch with what you posted", to me this means that he liked the reasons that Mocsta posted and agreed. However, in his above post, he said "His case made me think a bit more about rsoultin and then I put my reasons out in my filter". But the reason that he stated for voting rsoultin isn't at all what Mocsta said in his case.

Also,
On February 06 2018 14:11 Conversion wrote:
1) I never tried to get other people on rsoultin. I stated that in my head (whenever I voted her) that she was the best lynch at that time.
What about this?
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town

df hot and cold

conv kinda poop soup

lynch koshi
Hi ritoky
what makes conv brown?


his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered.

non committal.

posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia.


Thanks, hun. You want to commit to something? I'd be perfectly good with a rsoultin lynch right now, what about you?


the last quote here is taken out of context for a "gotcha" moment in my eyes; when clearly if you read it in context (i would know it was directed at me) it does not mean what trfel is trying to make it mean.


Eh, I don't really see the taken out of context point.

On second thought, it probably should be clear that he's just asking you who you want to lynch, isn't it? Since you had me as probably town in your list post. I don't know...if it's that easy to miss I don't know that it says much about truffle's alignment that he missed it. And I like his line of questioning on darth foley and conversion in general.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 11:35 GMT
#290
On February 06 2018 20:29 ritoky wrote:
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On February 06 2018 20:26 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:22 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:21 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:17 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:13 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:06 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 19:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 19:45 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

^ This is what I'm referring to, ritoky.

You say that you only have 1 and a half strong townreads, but this looks like a scumread to me. Also the only one in your filter at all.

Say you're joking about koshi, and yeah we all know what koshi can be like (though I don't know anything about whether he pushes you all the time or not), I'd still think this would be enough to push Conversion. Only caveat is you're not really doing anything, so not as scummy as say having this read and then pushing someone else. But the doing nothing with it certainly isn't giving me town feels, either.

Didn't someone already ask you why you thought HF was town?


i don't understand your point. some1 asked me why he was poop soup, i told them. he was the only player i had any negative inclinations toward. are those feelings a strong enough deviation from the norm to warrant trying to lynch him at this point? no not really.

and why do i have to push things? why can't i play reactive? if you want to read my lack of aggression and my simple, succinct, honest posting style as scum; that's on you. you do you, i'll do me. i bet i come out finding more scum in the end though.

The problem is if you're town you doing you looks like scum. Can you elaborate on this?


so you want to make me alter the way i am playing rather than you have to alter the way you're perceiving? that's selfish.

it's pretty straightforward but sure. at the start of the game everyone starts at a baseline level, let's call it 0. as the game progresses people do things they gain points in their favor and against them. let's say the range is 10 to -10. if we were to place conv on that scale he was somewhere around a -2 to a -3. -5 is generally where you have to be for pressure to lynch to begin for me. maybe if he works at it, he can get there one day.


I get this to an extent because my brother used a similar method, but not with the hands-off approach you're taking. It still bugs me that for someone with limited reads you're not actively doing something about it, even if I can see the different play-style argument of must wait to pressure until x certainty. But you go ahead and be you.


look i got a wife, 3 kids who can walk and talk, and 2 cats now; i ain't got the fire in my belly anymore to get in the trenches and duke it out with people. i battle it out all day long. what i do still have are my instincts even if they are washed-up; so this style of play suits the me of today much better.


Just as with holyflare's insistance that he was treating people differently last game based on whether he was at work or not, I have no way to verify this. You'd do better to, as I said, just be you.

I don't think you ever elaborated on your HF read?


On February 06 2018 12:52 ritoky wrote:
i read the conversation about the serial killer, and proceeded to roll my eyes and say to myself "this is so dumb". hf did the same thing at the same time. i am town, thus he is town.

koshi is a detriment to town regardless of his alignment; so if there is no compelling alternative, removing him from the game is always a positive.



Oh lol >< I do remember you posting that...I guess I just didn't see that as a strong reason to townread someone so it didn't register. To be clear, it's valid enough for D1 or if it happens consistently, but I wouldn't put that much weight on one comment/reaction that lines up.


why not? i am a firm believer that 1 moment can make someone irrevocably town or mafia; and that people too often lose sight of those defining moments in favor of the "what have you done for me recently point of view", often to their detriment.

as for the out of context bit. to me it reads as "hey this is my read, what's your opinion?" (which i had already given) not "hey lynch this person with me. hop on bruh" like trfel tries to make it seem. it's not the worst case, but it's enough so he doesn't get to sit at the awesome table.


I don't disagree with this on principle. I just disagree with one 'mind-meld' equating to it. I've also been burned by my '1 moment irrevocably makes x, x alignment' in the past, on both scum and townreads. We can agree to disagree on it, though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 11:36 GMT
#291
On February 06 2018 20:35 ritoky wrote:
i mean we are talking about why trfel is a 5 and not a 7, so ofc it isn't a huge deal. it just gives me pause because in that moment he seems more interested in winning the argument and making the other guy look dumb than thoroughly evaluate his alignment.


Fair, I suppose.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 11:39 GMT
#292
On February 06 2018 18:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 06 2018 07:35 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:22 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:13 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime.
a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me

Why?

Maybe bullshitty is the wrong word but this "unnatural place for someone's mind to go" is a bit much regarding an obvious joke post


Again, why does it being an obvious joke post default to bullshit? I read the beginning of the sentence and assumed mafia would be the conclusion. It wasn't. That caught my eye more than all the other obvious jokes flying around -shrugs- I agree that it's pretty moot since it was just a passing thought that for some stupid reason has now become the focal point of the thread.

What do you think about mocsta bandwagoning on that?

@DF, so it's scummy for me to comment on it like I did but you also don't like mocsta. I don't understand.

I guess my mind is more simple than that. I see joke post -> I mentally discard it

About Mocsta: I can kind of see what he's seeing but I'm already struggling to understand what he's saying


So, basically, because you'd never give a moment's thought to a joke post you assume that I would not as well, which defaults to bullshit. Yeah...see, for me to believe that I'd have to think you're someone who expects everyone to think like you, and that's not the impression that I got from you last game.

I'm also not sure how you can 'kind of see what he's seeing' while simultaneously not understanding him?


@mderg
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 11:47 GMT
#294
On February 06 2018 20:45 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 18:15 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:35 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:22 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:13 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
[quote]a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me

Why?

Maybe bullshitty is the wrong word but this "unnatural place for someone's mind to go" is a bit much regarding an obvious joke post


Again, why does it being an obvious joke post default to bullshit? I read the beginning of the sentence and assumed mafia would be the conclusion. It wasn't. That caught my eye more than all the other obvious jokes flying around -shrugs- I agree that it's pretty moot since it was just a passing thought that for some stupid reason has now become the focal point of the thread.

What do you think about mocsta bandwagoning on that?

@DF, so it's scummy for me to comment on it like I did but you also don't like mocsta. I don't understand.

I guess my mind is more simple than that. I see joke post -> I mentally discard it

About Mocsta: I can kind of see what he's seeing but I'm already struggling to understand what he's saying


So, basically, because you'd never give a moment's thought to a joke post you assume that I would not as well, which defaults to bullshit. Yeah...see, for me to believe that I'd have to think you're someone who expects everyone to think like you, and that's not the impression that I got from you last game.

I'm also not sure how you can 'kind of see what he's seeing' while simultaneously not understanding him?

You're putting way too much focus on my wording. It was an overblown reaction to an obvious joke post.

I see his points on you but I also have a hard time understanding some of his posts. It shouldn't be that difficult to understand.

What exactly was 'overblown' about my reaction?

So which points do you agree with and which don't you understand, then?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:36 GMT
#314
On February 06 2018 21:23 Holyflare wrote:
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On February 06 2018 06:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:44 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:40 rsoultin wrote:
Let me rephrase so that this is easier to understand, then.

What does scum 'light' comment even mean?

Sure thing.

Means you said you were tempted to call rayn scum for reason XYZ

Thats a weak phrase association. Hrnce. Light weight. Hence 'light'


Lol ><

Sounds like you already answered your own question, then, doesn't it? Yes, of course it's light. Joni has a tendency to scumread me for asinine reasons as town.

Why are you asking me questions that you already know the answer to? And then adding shade on top of it? Then demanding that I answer like it's a real question? Because if there's a town reason for that, I'd love to hear it.


I don't really understand this. You called him potentially mafia for calling you out for asinine reasoning but he does it as town?


No, I said he could be town for calling me out for asinine reasons. It's moot now, though. I think he's town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:37 GMT
#315
On February 06 2018 22:24 Conversion wrote:
rsoultin go explain your lynch pool instead of doing whatever you’re doing. I’m in it and you most likely will have people on board— why is your filter just you arguing about minute details and defending yourself?

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On February 06 2018 20:12 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:24 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:23 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, I'm really confused by what you're saying about rsoultin. I may be misunderstanding your argument entirely, correct me if I'm wrong (posts 122-124), but you seem to be saying that one of the reasons you're willing to lynch rsoultin is that she randomly picked on your post and not the other joke posts at the time. Or what is going on here?


Her nitpicky post just seemed pretty forced to try and make something out of obviously nothing. I see that more scum than town.
On February 06 2018 06:52 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime.
a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me


I am curious as to what part of her sharing her opinion on my obviously joke post on HF being Serial Killer sounds bullshitty
In that case, why did you ask this question to mderg, if you agreed with his assessment?


Because calling people's opinions bullshitty doesn't make sense in my head, and is also seemingly forced to try and look active?

I don't get this line of questioning. I can ask people about their motivations even if I may agree with them

Am I misunderstanding things or was your line of thought? I saw something strange about rsoultin -> mderg saw the same thing but worded it different than I would -> something's fishy


Sort of like that. I just didn’t understand how her statemen was “bullshitty” but dropped it once you said it wasn’t the right word


This is how I roll, boyo.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:40 GMT
#316
On February 06 2018 23:33 Conversion wrote:
To be clear, rsoultin

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On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.


You said this and then another page+ is you just pinpointing things that don't help you push your agenda. You poked ritoky a few times, that's about it. I didn't see you getting anything from that.

Also

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On February 06 2018 20:23 rsoultin wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:20 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the "half-town" read?


that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment.

so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town.


i mean i was confident until you told me she got nailed for it last game, then i looked and it was kinda true; so i lost some confidence in it. i was banking on using the read i invented years ago to get a sneakster read, but it appears people still plagiarize my reads shamelessly.

trfel took a quote out of context pretty bad, so he doesn't get to sit at the table anymore.

I am sorry but i cannot tell if you are telling the truth or lying about it based on what you posted at the time you supposedly went to check this.

Which was the post Trfel took out of context?


this is the most honest game of mafia i have ever played. i haven't exaggerated anything, lied, or taken anything deliberately out of context yet. which is a wild deviation for me.

On February 06 2018 14:20 Trfel wrote:
I feel like Conversion is highly inconsistent. I'm not sold on him being mafia but I'm pretty suspicious.
On February 06 2018 10:06 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 09:52 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 08:08 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:03 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 05:22 Conversion wrote:
He's actually home. I'm next to him and read his role PM and it said Serial Killer
this is quite funny.
See i thoight before you said YOU were sk

I reread based on ya latest comment saying it was to HF.

When i saw HF say hes "safe" i was drawn to assume SK as well lol
Unusual choice of words, inclusive of vet



This is weird since that wasn't the conclusion I was drawing. Not sure why you are trying to conclude we thought the same thing.

I just assumed safe meant "not mafia," so I just joked about it.
Yeah OK. I think you are nitpicking/overreacting here with the distancing a bit much. But watevz.

I still think the choice of "safe" is unusual, and when coupled with the how he interjected Rayn/rsoultin - in general I find it to be odd play.

However, I am more curious if this is what you truly think is the most relevant part of the game to raise so far?


Fair point on me being nitpicky. That's just how I am. Also, agreed I was being lazy in not bringing up anything related to rsoultin but I do not know what "weird" is in terms of meta. I did find her behavior objectively weirder in randomly nitpicking (to steal your word) on my joke post, and harp on others for it.

Not sure if that makes her mafia, but at this point in time I'd be pretty okay with an rsoultin lynch with what you posted, so I'll sheep
"I'd be pretty okay with an rsoultin lynch with what you posted", to me this means that he liked the reasons that Mocsta posted and agreed. However, in his above post, he said "His case made me think a bit more about rsoultin and then I put my reasons out in my filter". But the reason that he stated for voting rsoultin isn't at all what Mocsta said in his case.

Also,
On February 06 2018 14:11 Conversion wrote:
1) I never tried to get other people on rsoultin. I stated that in my head (whenever I voted her) that she was the best lynch at that time.
What about this?
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 ritoky wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:02 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 11:59 ritoky wrote:
hf town
not lynching mocsta today
rsoul prob town

df hot and cold

conv kinda poop soup

lynch koshi
Hi ritoky
what makes conv brown?


his questions lead to dead end alleys where people get robbed and murdered.

non committal.

posts like "good point about that thing i was doing sir! cheerio chaps" generally come from mafia.


Thanks, hun. You want to commit to something? I'd be perfectly good with a rsoultin lynch right now, what about you?


the last quote here is taken out of context for a "gotcha" moment in my eyes; when clearly if you read it in context (i would know it was directed at me) it does not mean what trfel is trying to make it mean.


Eh, I don't really see the taken out of context point.


Can you explain how you don't see the taken out of context point? It was pretty clear.


Wait a second lol >< This looks like you just decided I was being 'nitpicky' and defensive and then realized that I was questioning a scumread and went oops! Better correct that! Must be a pain to claim I'm doing nothing about my reads and then notice that I am.

Here's a hint: read a couple posts down and you'll see I already answered your question. Guess you missed that in your skim as well?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:42 GMT
#317
On February 06 2018 23:41 Koshi wrote:
Town for now:
Mocsta
darthfoley
Tfrel
Conversion
rayn

Most are based on tone.
I cant be hold accountable for any of these reads and will change them if it fits my agenda.


Can you explain Conversion? Because I think he just made up a read on me based on what he saw holyflare saying and then had to backtrack.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:42 GMT
#319
On February 07 2018 00:07 Koshi wrote:
I think I will also call rsoultin leaning town. And that I will vote mderg.

mderg, prplhz and the 2 afks might contain 2 mafia. Let's hope the third does better.

##vote mdreg


I'm kinda okay with prp though. Why him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:43 GMT
#320
On February 07 2018 00:42 Conversion wrote:
Oh you're right I completely missed that.

Man I am not on the ball this game..

Thanks for the hint, although it was in the next page over, not couple of posts down.


Nothing you've posted since your return makes it look like you actually read before spouting off at the mouth.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:44 GMT
#321
On February 07 2018 00:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 00:42 Conversion wrote:
Oh you're right I completely missed that.

Man I am not on the ball this game..

Thanks for the hint, although it was in the next page over, not couple of posts down.


Nothing you've posted since your return makes it look like you actually read before spouting off at the mouth.


Which, to be clear, would be fine if you hadn't claimed to be caught up.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:46 GMT
#323
On February 07 2018 00:45 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 00:43 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 00:42 Conversion wrote:
Oh you're right I completely missed that.

Man I am not on the ball this game..

Thanks for the hint, although it was in the next page over, not couple of posts down.


Nothing you've posted since your return makes it look like you actually read before spouting off at the mouth.


That's usually what happens when I roll out of bed in the morning and read things without double checking my facts.

Sue me if that makes me mafia. Also, your though on me reading what HF said and that influencing what I'm saying is pretty horse shit, since I would have quoted him if I did so.

/shrug I'll just take a step back and actually start double checking what I post


Well, if you're not reading to get your reads, you have to be getting them from somewhere.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 06 2018 15:54 GMT
#325
On February 07 2018 00:47 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 00:46 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 00:45 Conversion wrote:
On February 07 2018 00:43 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 00:42 Conversion wrote:
Oh you're right I completely missed that.

Man I am not on the ball this game..

Thanks for the hint, although it was in the next page over, not couple of posts down.


Nothing you've posted since your return makes it look like you actually read before spouting off at the mouth.


That's usually what happens when I roll out of bed in the morning and read things without double checking my facts.

Sue me if that makes me mafia. Also, your though on me reading what HF said and that influencing what I'm saying is pretty horse shit, since I would have quoted him if I did so.

/shrug I'll just take a step back and actually start double checking what I post


Well, if you're not reading to get your reads, you have to be getting them from somewhere.


Yeah I'm getting them because I'm scum and I know my scummates and you're obviously VT.


I'm glad you finally admit it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 08:39 GMT
#483
On February 07 2018 02:40 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 02:33 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, humor me one more time? Right now, why are you scumreading rsoultin?

Not asking for past posts as much as what's compelling to you at this moment. Doesn't have to be a long answer, a short summary is fine.


Sure. I will answer any questions you have of me regardless of whether I agree or disagree, as I believe you are town and I am town and I want to solve this game with other town.

rsoultin from diving into CCCP, and with less scrutiny in Newbie, played a more loose game in the beginning, from what I could see. She was questioning left and right, similar to how she is doing so here. However, I don't feel as if her posts really progress the game, whereas I felt that when reading the past two games from her. I might be wrong, but this is what I feel.

Another point that worries me she hasn't really clawed onto a target yet. She sort of prods at ritoky, but most of her filter doesn't conclude much. She questions my posts on missing information, and I believe she concluded I am scum for it (she's voting me, iirc). Which leads me to believe that she thinks that my omitting information to fit an agenda (rsoultin is scummy) is making me scum. Which I think in and of itself is a fine conclusion to make. The problem I have with this right now (rsoultin, please correct me if I am wrong in concluding that you think I am scum for those reasons and more that you are not sharing) is that I did a very blatantly scummy thing in CCCP-- however, she seemed more questioning rather than aggressively painting me scum. She also kept her thought process rather transparent and iterated in the thread a lot, whereas I feel as if her actions are more hidden/calculated so far in this game.

Not sure if that helps, but that's my general thought process/feeling right now.


You make me want to vote for myself. Pfft.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 08:41 GMT
#484
On February 07 2018 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
Rsoultin posting would be nice


Hi! Ask me what you need to. I haven't really read everything posted since I left yesterday.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 08:45 GMT
#488
So, this try to get reads by what people are saying about me thing is not working. Every time I think I have something, they have to come along and make me doubt myself. So!

Rsoul doesn't exist. I'm going back through the game as if I've never played. It's kind of a retarded theory, but I think people focusing on nothing much other than me is probably where to find scum.

Also...not as frustrating when five people reiterate something that seems like a scum argument and there can't be that many scum in the game, so there's that.

If you guys want to vote me, fine. Lynch me for closure. But I don't want any more talk about me today so that I can focus and have a chance of actually leaving good reads behind.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 08:48 GMT
#490
On February 07 2018 17:45 Holyflare wrote:
I also won't be around much today because of work anyway. Only reason I'm posting now is because I'm in bed. Work starts in 15 mins and it takes an hour + to get there.

Oops.


That's fine. Just sheep my reads day 2 if they're brilliant.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 08:52 GMT
#492
On February 07 2018 02:13 Damdred wrote:
Its hard to concentrate when you have the flu lol.

In any case caught up and mocsta should be ashamed of himself. I like being scum more than town and have my longest filters as scum.

I wish I had made it bwfore Rayn explained himself. Tina intial things were a bit strange and ahe lacks some of the bounceyness I attribute to her as town.

Rit is strange... lacks something that i generally town read him on. and his posts seem to lack a bit of cohesiveness.



Not enough on damdy for a strong read, obviously. As I said before, being afk is not really a sign of anything from him, but I do think that it makes sense for him to concentrate on his two pocket reads if he hasn't really gotten a chance yet to sink his teeth into the game.

What makes me waffle beyond the minimal content is there are really no townreads mentioned at all. It looks like he read at least the beginning of the game, and mentions both rayn and mocsta, but not what he thinks of them.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 07 2018 08:53 GMT
#493
On February 07 2018 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 17:45 rsoultin wrote:
If you guys want to vote me, fine. Lynch me for closure. But I don't want any more talk about me today so that I can focus and have a chance of actually leaving good reads behind.

My problem is that i told you this like 100 hours ago -- after my push was initially that lead to all these people scumreading you, and you managed to do absolutely nothing after. So can you start now instead of still jsut complaining about ppl scumreading you? Sorry if i sound offensive, i don't mean to.


You do, but that's okay. It's only because I already started doing what you asked and can now thumb my nose at you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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