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Still think we lynch into prplhz/mderg today and hope rels and damdred play some.
ritoky/hf are way on the sidelines and also contain possible mafia. With posts like this maybe not together but still.
On February 07 2018 18:22 Holyflare wrote:
ALSO if ritoky found out that koshi calls him mafia as mafia a lot but not as town and only just discovered that then why isn't he now attributing being scum read as mafia koshi?
Untrue dirt shoveling detected.
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On February 07 2018 18:55 ritoky wrote:
koshi, who's worse mderg or damdred?
Damdred could become a beautiful butterfly.
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On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game Again. why jump to worst-conclusions. Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent). Pray tell me though. Do you see anything towny about damdred so far? Flu or not. Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better. I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg. Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him. Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So... 1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good? 2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse? I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you?
This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good.
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On February 07 2018 19:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:20 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that. Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter. Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate. Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret? More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible. You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him? :/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky.
Mafia emote. But it is not game related so it's ok.
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On February 07 2018 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game Again. why jump to worst-conclusions. Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent). Pray tell me though. Do you see anything towny about damdred so far? Flu or not. Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better. I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg. Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him. Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So... 1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good? 2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse? I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you? This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good. It really isn't. I don't know why you think it is.
Because if he is town. Everything in it is true. And the discussion he is having here is correct. He is right and mocsta wrong. But he isnt overplaying his advantage of veing right.
It's good.
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imo the townies this game are destroying each other. Which is fine if you come to a point we all sing kumbaya together in the end.
My point on prplhz is good. Him having a problem with the bad tr from df on me without having a problem with me is also slightly more mafia.
Mderg is super sideline like others have been saying. Me first though. He has no original thoughts and have had the solo "I am tired I dont want to play" post mafia makes more often than town.
Damdred could be a butterfly who is now sleeping as a cocoon. But he could be mafia easily as well. Very easily.
Rels w.e. We cant know.
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On February 07 2018 19:34 Mocsta wrote:
isnt overplaying it.. hes calling me scum you idiot.
O rly. Explain to me where.
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Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky.
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On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me? Who cares if my argument is wrong Care if its intentional
No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df.
About tfrel:
I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe.
What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia.
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df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room.
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On February 07 2018 20:20 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:13 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:11 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:09 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi
The thing i find odd with trfel is that he spent all this time deeply analysing conversion and darthfoley to then sheep conversion read.
However he has not performed any deep analysos on rsoultin.
This to me is non characyeristic. To me Trfel has come across as Question Master who struggles to produce original or accurate content tell me. Is rayn always so self centred? Ps. I like HF this game. Same vibe as last Yes. I know he also tunnels hardcore as Town. Not really familiar with his mafia play.
His mafia play is really good. If town is wrong he can make a giant post with fresh arguments that fit towns current believes and cements them even further. Making it very unlikely town recovers fast.
His town play is hit or miss early. And gets more likely to hit later on. But I have seen him be miss till like mid d3. After that he is hit or rip.
That being said. He can be hit d1 and then he is able to convince the thread he is right. Because he is so relentless. If thread sentiment doesnt believe him he is wrong most of the times. Thread sentiment is a good indicator.
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On February 07 2018 20:22 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:16 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:12 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. talking to me? Who cares if my argument is wrong Care if its intentional No to df. That is the reason rayn scumreads df. About tfrel: I am bad at reading people like that. So I cant comment. You say his focus is deliberately focussed on some people while ignoring others? In this case ignoring rsoultin. Maybe. What I see is that he is playing the game trying to solve it. I do not see mafia intention behind how he solves it. I do believe all his scumreads are wrong, but I dont think it makes him mafia. analytical ppl can be wrong. So bad scumreads dont make him mafia either. Its more he set the standard as deep and inciteful. I had to read thr conversion/trfel posts like 3 to 4 times cos i just dont view the game that deep on a filter by filter level. Bht once i got it.. it all made sense so im like. What a town motherfucker. This is real content. Then to see this guy casually vote someone on the sheep and withoit interrogsting them.. thata just not congruent with what i would expect.. In short. He came across as super original And ended up as a copy paster. Whilst hr can agree with a good case. I still expect him to do his own homework on it. Instead there ks none of this deep insight into why rsoultin is scum
Well... I think what you write here makes him town. And that what you attribute to him being possible mafia might be a flaw in his game. Unless you can point out the mafia agenda in him sheeping we can't lynch him.
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On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room. No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong. Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards
Coolio. I believe you.
I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct.
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On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option
How does this development make you feel about prplhz?
What development? I dont follow.
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On February 07 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:30 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:25 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 20:20 Koshi wrote:
df can you please explain why you said:
"I believe your arguments are wrong"
You know his arguments are wrong. Because it are arguments that make you mafia. There is no wiggle room. No. I know his interpretation of my alignment is wrong. Pretty sure I was responding to the idea that I hadn't interacted with the thread or some bullshit accusation. That is a subjective accusation because it is open for interpretation. I believe I have interacted with the thread. It would be silly to claim I KNOW I have interacted with the thread. Depends on your standards Coolio. I believe you. I very easily townread you for some reason. And I havent been wrong yet. But I think you never been mafia. Anyway. Last 3 games I tr you fast and correct. Lol This is a funniest comment nomination Me and darth were scum together last game... you knlw.. brutal bus everyome was talking about
Yes. I wasnt in the game.
I meant he wasnt mafia in a game I was alive in recently.
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On February 07 2018 20:34 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 20:32 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2018 20:31 Mocsta wrote:
Never thought he was a good lymxh option
How does this development make you feel about prplhz? What development? I dont follow. you just aaid. My comments on trfel indicate town Prplhz was playing against thread sentiment by shitting on trfel to make a black truffle. Yoy said you liked this about prplhz.. and i believ it lined up with yoyr read. So of leaning town.. does this influence prplhz read?
No. I never said that. I am scumreading/voting prplhz because he nitpicked something out of tfrel filter ignoring the broader picture.
prplhz has a nightmare filter and I dont care too much if he is mafia or town. I just want him out of the game and develop my reads further on people that actually play the game. Like rsoultin.
Mderg same story.
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On February 07 2018 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day.
We won that game. And I agree that was great. Could do it again.
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Ofc Rels should be up for lynch...
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On February 07 2018 21:59 rsoultin wrote:In the absence of anyone scummy, sure. I don't make a habit of lynching an afk Rels on D1 because, as you said with Damdred, he can turn into a butterfly.
That is my point
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Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.
This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.
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