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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 10:40 GMT
#2027
On February 12 2018 19:35 disformation wrote:
rayn can you look at the rs on rit / rit on rs stuff?
because i totally dont like rit calling for cop checks on rs real hard like.

The cop check is completely NAI, because it was the correct play. Even if there was a normal cop climing green on rsoultin would have been correct play. So ritoky is completely right in that.

ritoky's filter reads "idgaf" so i think he is town. I don't understand the "he voted for his blue read" because he has never voted for prplhz.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 10:42 GMT
#2028
Ah you meant mafia pr.... nvm then.
Yeah i think ritoky is cool.

I don't see any indication in rsoultin - ritoky exchanges that look like SvS.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 11:13 GMT
#2041
On February 12 2018 19:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 01:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think rsoultin is mafia purely based on mderg's multiple interactions with her. Seems like 50% of his filter is arguing with her.

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
But I also think it's scum rsoultin based on her play too.



Literally the post after your quote. Don't cherry pick my filter to fit your narrative.
Good.
Even more resons you should have been vot8ing for her over Damdred then.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 11:24 GMT
#2044
On February 12 2018 20:17 ritoky wrote:
there's no way to manufacture this into auto?

if youre town and conversion is town then yes this is auto.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 18:56 GMT
#2097
I am just going to say i don't really care if you want to lynch Damdred first, because i believe he has almost the same chance of being scum than Holyflare. Also the fact is that whoever is mafia in this game the D1 was absolutely retarded for the mafia team so i don't buy any "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" from D1 because if that was a reason noone would be mafia. Except for prplhz or disformation, but that's not possible. But still always lynch prplhz if he's alive in F3 because then there is no doctor at all and it's a simple framer vs parity cop game.

I must say though, that if we go into the "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" then Conversion and darthfoley win the town prize.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 19:10 GMT
#2105
I am not sure why you are arguing against what i said like you are HF. Well i kinda understand it from both town and mafia perspectives but i still am not sure why. What i suggested is that you switched to mderg because the chances of winning are better with rsoultin who talks than with mderg who doesn't. The way i see it, is that in case rsoultin gets lynched D1 mderg has a high chance of getting lynched D2 anyways. The other way around not so. It's not like you had a better alternative if you are mafia. Also it's not like you could refrain from calling rsoultin mafia earlier in D1 without being caught. So all in all, if you are mafia, you made the absolute correct play D1, and i am not sure why you are trying to argue against it since it's a fact regardless of if you are mafia or not.

You say you sheeped your townreads. Okay, it can be true. I don't have time to check if there is any indication of that in your filter or how it compares to what i believe your strength in rsoultin read is tonight. I will do that in the morning when i get off work though.

You also would have had the reason to make the nightkill on Trfel. Koshi is a obvious medic dodge and there are basically no other good night kills for you if you are mafia. Trfel is just the best night kill because it is the only kill where people for sure won't say "why doesn't HF die"? Maybe you did it, maybe you didn't, it still makes sense for you as scum.

I will continue tomorrow. If you want to convince people on Damdred feel free to, you don't need to convince me since i already know the points you have made and yes, if Damdred continues to play the very least then yes, he is a good lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 19:11 GMT
#2106
darthfoley i refuse to believe the only thing Koshi does on D1 is to make a case (well technically that was only a "case" since there was none) on his mafia partner and never let go of it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 19:14 GMT
#2109
If Damdred is mafia though, what is mafia's play N1/D2? Fucking murder themselves in any scenario?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 19:26 GMT
#2115
I am not even sure why Koshi scumreads you df, but feel free to point that out, since i don't understand where he has blatantly lied about stuff you've done all game to create a false narrative. What i remember from Koshi on you he sounded resonable, just wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 19:27 GMT
#2116
gtg to work now, laterz.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 12 2018 22:17 GMT
#2142
Damdred you really need to play rn in case you're town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 03:18 GMT
#2146
I think you should think abit more what you write disformation...

I mean unless you wanna get lynched for dumb stuff in future.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 09:03 GMT
#2156
I just woke up i will go to the store real quick then i have a couple of things to say.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 09:39 GMT
#2161
On February 13 2018 17:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 05:11 Conversion wrote:
also if prplhz is mafia then I played a decent game. My first decent one

On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.



Conversion also looks good. Quoted post for sure.

The thing that mostly makes Conversion town is that he was like super depressed during N1 because he was "playing badly" when his scumreads D1 were rsoultin and mderg. It would be a super twisted fake emotion as mafia to do that when you know you are 100% correct in your reads, and i am like 99,9% sure the emotion is genuine and not faked as mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 09:42 GMT
#2163
On February 13 2018 18:33 disformation wrote:
@hf: yeah that was the post I was referring to when i said "HF himself pointed out that his vote is super scummy if both RS and mderg are scum". just hard to judge what you would do/are capable of as scum. since you know, you can be pretty good at that.

HF is surely capable of doing stuff as mafia, basically anything anyone else would do and more. I am not quite sure he tries to argue his vote D1 cannot been seen as scummy because yes, he said that himself on N1.

Eh.. i mean why he tries to argue it this way, i feel like he is trying to over-simplify my argument to something that it is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 09:42 GMT
#2164
EBWOP: I am not quite sure why he tries....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 09:52 GMT
#2166
p1:
rayn scum
rsoultin scum
trfel town
df scum
rayn town

p2:
conv town?
koshi idiot

p3:
notes noone reading rsoultin town other than Koshi
"I don't think ritoky has made any posts he couldn't make as mafia in regards to reads"

p4:
"I might vote for mderg"

p5:
mderg flips




Yeah i don't quite believe Holyflare sheeped his "townreads Koshi and ritoky on mderg". Because there is absolutely nothing that suggests that he even townreads either of them, more like what he said about ritoky looks like a scumread to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 09:55 GMT
#2167
well not really a scumread but definitely not a townread.
those were all posts where HF talks about Koshi's and ritoky's alignments even remotedly (i started doing his reads on other people but then most of his filter was about rsoultin anyways so i stopped doing that after he complained to Koshi on his filter p2).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 10:08 GMT
#2174
Here is another thing i found. This post is from D1.

On February 07 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
It's fine. You're sheeping me on rsoul so it's all good. We have to stick through this lynch though cos there's gonna be a lot of yelling and empty threats.

Now the green part here is something that rsoultin very often does as mafia when people call her scum. She starts to shit up the thread with nonsense that has nothing to do with actually people being mafia or not, she just argues about completely useless points to make the arguments so annoying to read noone cares anymore. Thing to note here is that Holyflare, already at this point notices this is how rsoultin acts in certain situations.

Here is a string of posts from D2 after i made a case on rsoultin:
On February 10 2018 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
I was expecting a reaction like this far sooner. Let's rumble!

@thread lynch me first of you have to, then lynch rayn for not soon this in the first place because he's scum, know I'm town and doesn't actually care who is scum this game.

I'll take tomorrow finding the third for y'all

On February 10 2018 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia.
I won't bite because i don't have time for it.

On February 10 2018 08:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote:
I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise.

Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia.
I won't bite because i don't have time for it.

-pokes- I'm going to bed actually.

Please note folks that he only started this after I called him out for it.

On February 10 2018 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card.
Clever.


On February 10 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction.

Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs.

He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch.

If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily.

On February 10 2018 08:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card.
Clever.

Lol no I'm calling you out on not drinking your own coolaid.

On February 10 2018 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote:
Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction.

Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs.

He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch.

If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily.

Yes i realized i couldn't get traction after full 25 minutes so i had to get back to my original town lynch who btw had 5 votes over some random people having 1. I really needed that traction on df in the first place at the time, shame i couldn't get it.

I call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I don't call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I should probably learn this talent that is useful in a mafia game. Should i call Koshi?

I am looking for the easiest lynches yeah youre right. Like you who is super hard to lynch and Mocsta who after all voted for mafia adn thread sentiment says he is town. Those two townies are definitely my top picks to lynch as mafia, like why would i even think i could possibly lynch someone else?

Yes you do.


I find it extremely unlike town!Holyflare doesn't vote for rsoultin after this (which is exactly what he was already talking about during D1) happens. Extremely unlike, like 1% likely.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 13 2018 10:15 GMT
#2180
I still realyl don't understand why people townread you on N1 but maybe i am just bad.
You say things like:
On February 13 2018 08:54 disformation wrote:
igoring d1. less likely that scum did nothing and just sheeped rayn on rs. that makes conv and df look better. esp if damdy is town.

So, idk, do conv and df look like scum if damdred is town then or what?
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