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On February 13 2018 04:07 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:On February 13 2018 00:35 disformation wrote:
the thing is like if its either damdy or hf they fucked up real bad with the d1 vote.
which is of course possible, because that was not a great situation to be in and either seemed to be a bit short on time.
just have a feeling it might not be that easy.
though that is prolly paranoia. cause outside of those two...
rayn, prpl and me are pretty much 100% town.
rit was ultra chill earlier.
darth and conv dont rly make sense cause of their d1.
kinda leaves koshi?
sooo dunno. lynch damdy/hf/koshi for auto win? Can you explain that to me? tldr like it is kinda that: Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just going to say i don't really care if you want to lynch Damdred first, because i believe he has almost the same chance of being scum than Holyflare. Also the fact is that whoever is mafia in this game the D1 was absolutely retarded for the mafia team so i don't buy any "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" from D1 because if that was a reason noone would be mafia. Except for prplhz or disformation, but that's not possible. But still always lynch prplhz if he's alive in F3 because then there is no doctor at all and it's a simple framer vs parity cop game.
I must say though, that if we go into the "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" then Conversion and darthfoley win the town prize. but you also right. i'm not fully sure and should double check the why (see how bad I mixed up df's stuff at night). conversion was early and strong on rs and even convinced trfel to vote her. then mderg come with his great post and conv jumps on him really hard. then he waffles a bit on the two and end up on mderg. I feel as scum it would make more sense for him to bus rs even harder and try to get cred from pushing her all day. also higher chance of saving the pr if he had stayed on rs.
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[QUOTE]On February 13 2018 04:07 disformation wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 13 2018 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 13 2018 00:35 disformation wrote:
the thing is like if its either damdy or hf they fucked up real bad with the d1 vote.
which is of course possible, because that was not a great situation to be in and either seemed to be a bit short on time.
just have a feeling it might not be that easy.
though that is prolly paranoia. cause outside of those two...
rayn, prpl and me are pretty much 100% town.
rit was ultra chill earlier.
darth and conv dont rly make sense cause of their d1.
kinda leaves koshi?
sooo dunno. lynch damdy/hf/koshi for auto win?[/QUOTE]
Can you explain that to me? [/QUOTE]
tldr like it is kinda that:
[QUOTE]On February 13 2018 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just going to say i don't really care if you want to lynch Damdred first, because i believe he has almost the same chance of being scum than Holyflare. Also the fact is that whoever is mafia in this game the D1 was absolutely retarded for the mafia team so i don't buy any "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" from D1 because if that was a reason noone would be mafia. Except for prplhz or disformation, but that's not possible. But still always lynch prplhz if he's alive in F3 because then there is no doctor at all and it's a simple framer vs parity cop game.
I must say though, that if we go into the "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" then Conversion and darthfoley win the town prize.[/QUOTE]
but you also right. i'm not fully sure and should double check the why (see how bad I mixed up df's stuff at night).
conversion was early and strong on rs and even convinced trfel to vote her. then mderg come with his great post and conv jumps on him really hard. then he waffles a bit on the two and end up on mderg. I feel as scum it would make more sense for him to bus rs even harder and try to get cred from pushing her all day. also higher chance of saving the pr if he had stayed on rs.[/QUOTE]
Quick correction I ended up staying on rsoultin
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My eyes. They bleed.
Quick correction I ended up staying on rsoultin
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I am not sure why you are arguing against what i said like you are HF. Well i kinda understand it from both town and mafia perspectives but i still am not sure why. What i suggested is that you switched to mderg because the chances of winning are better with rsoultin who talks than with mderg who doesn't. The way i see it, is that in case rsoultin gets lynched D1 mderg has a high chance of getting lynched D2 anyways. The other way around not so. It's not like you had a better alternative if you are mafia. Also it's not like you could refrain from calling rsoultin mafia earlier in D1 without being caught. So all in all, if you are mafia, you made the absolute correct play D1, and i am not sure why you are trying to argue against it since it's a fact regardless of if you are mafia or not.
You say you sheeped your townreads. Okay, it can be true. I don't have time to check if there is any indication of that in your filter or how it compares to what i believe your strength in rsoultin read is tonight. I will do that in the morning when i get off work though.
You also would have had the reason to make the nightkill on Trfel. Koshi is a obvious medic dodge and there are basically no other good night kills for you if you are mafia. Trfel is just the best night kill because it is the only kill where people for sure won't say "why doesn't HF die"? Maybe you did it, maybe you didn't, it still makes sense for you as scum.
I will continue tomorrow. If you want to convince people on Damdred feel free to, you don't need to convince me since i already know the points you have made and yes, if Damdred continues to play the very least then yes, he is a good lynch.
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darthfoley i refuse to believe the only thing Koshi does on D1 is to make a case (well technically that was only a "case" since there was none) on his mafia partner and never let go of it.
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so. both conv and darthfoley were onto both mderg and rsoultin and waffled between the two of them, but stayed on rs in the end?
and just sheeped rayn's case d2?
did I finally get it?
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On February 13 2018 04:04 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just going to say i don't really care if you want to lynch Damdred first, because i believe he has almost the same chance of being scum than Holyflare. Also the fact is that whoever is mafia in this game the D1 was absolutely retarded for the mafia team so i don't buy any "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" from D1 because if that was a reason noone would be mafia. Except for prplhz or disformation, but that's not possible. But still always lynch prplhz if he's alive in F3 because then there is no doctor at all and it's a simple framer vs parity cop game.
I must say though, that if we go into the "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" then Conversion and darthfoley win the town prize. I'm biased, but I agree. I literally just got finished with a game where I tried the whole "soft bus my partner" thing and not only did we lose two mafia in three days, but I got vigi shot N1. That is the last strategy I would try to use in this game. Anyways, enough of the WIFOM. I still think the mafia is within HF/Koshi. I would be surprised if Damdred is lying about not wanting to play mafia if his dad is in the hospital. Maybe? Idk. My girlfriend left today (sadness) so I will have some time to look over some filters for the first time in like 4 days. I would really appreciate prplhz doing something for once in this game if he's actually doctor. Nothing like "confirmed" town doing literally 0 things to help the town.
Koshi's filter is the one I read the most but I have a really hard time seeing his play as mafia. As much I don't like him calling me mafia or bad or both at every opportune moment. I don't know if mafia!Koshi would spend all that time and energy yelling about how rsoultin is town if it's looking worse and worse for him to do so.. hm
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If Damdred is mafia though, what is mafia's play N1/D2? Fucking murder themselves in any scenario?
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On February 13 2018 04:13 disformation wrote:
so. both conv and darthfoley were onto both mderg and rsoultin and waffled between the two of them, but stayed on rs in the end?
and just sheeped rayn's case d2?
did I finally get it?
Yes. Well, yes for me at least. No idea what DF did.
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Here are two points I made prior to rayn's case on HF which seem to implicate either HF or Koshi IMO.
On February 11 2018 06:26 darthfoley wrote:
First bus makes some sense. But second bus is where mafia is usually desperate. Which is why I look at Koshi. He was pushing a very false narrative on me today and trying to sow doubt in the minds of many who were TRing me. Idk it looked bad imo
On February 12 2018 04:17 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2018 03:58 Holyflare wrote:On February 12 2018 03:45 darthfoley wrote:On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?
Disfo who mafia? I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion So you're saying I'm potentially mafia that cased my team mate to lynch my other team mate who I hadn't talked about and who was also a role? Yep. Mderg was pretty useless and framers are rarely helpful so I don't think it's as much of a stretch as you make it out to be
A well played first bus is not actually that bad of a play if you set it up well. But second bus for HF/Koshi is something they must avoid on D2. There is too much paranoia, especially with no blues flipped, to pull off a full solo game I think. So what do they both do, in different ways? Defend rsoultin and try to push the accusation somewhere else. HF tries to be apathetic about the lynch that he was so gung-ho about D1 (even though he didn't vote for her D1) by going hard on Damdred. Koshi pretty hard defends rsoultin and just blatantly lies about stuff I've done all game to create a false narrative.
I think the strategy was exactly as rayn said: lynch an unhelpful framer who was not going to survive many more days for some ez town cred, while getting people off rsoultin's back D2. I don't think I've played a single game where framer has done shit on TL, so I view it almost as a goon.
HF makes a decent point that Koshi has been too trigger happy on lynches. HF has many reasons to be mafia.
Need to look through Conversion/Damdred, but i'm very glad disformation is off the table. GJ rayn
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On February 13 2018 04:13 disformation wrote:
so. both conv and darthfoley were onto both mderg and rsoultin and waffled between the two of them, but stayed on rs in the end?
and just sheeped rayn's case d2?
did I finally get it?
Pretty much. Yup
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Look no further than this amazing essay on why I am town, and why you should not lynch me.
On February 08 2018 07:43 Conversion wrote:
I am town. That is my defense.
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On February 13 2018 04:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
darthfoley i refuse to believe the only thing Koshi does on D1 is to make a case (well technically that was only a "case" since there was none) on his mafia partner and never let go of it.
I think HF is more likely, but frankly i'm thoroughly unimpressed by either if they're mafia. They really messed up D1.
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I am not even sure why Koshi scumreads you df, but feel free to point that out, since i don't understand where he has blatantly lied about stuff you've done all game to create a false narrative. What i remember from Koshi on you he sounded resonable, just wrong.
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On February 12 2018 17:24 Koshi wrote:
He is town doc. No worries.
rayn played his checks ok-ish.
Problem is df either called his bluff or Damdred played his hearth out yesterday.
Implies he still thinks mafia is between me and Damdred. Rayn just makes a case on HF and Koshi forgets this completely
On February 12 2018 21:47 Koshi wrote:
Well....
rayn made a pretty good case.
And ritoky is pretty chill
##vote hf
On February 12 2018 21:58 Koshi wrote:
If you are town I resect you as a human being and I think you played a great game hf.
Wtf is this progression? So basically Koshi is lynching HF for playing a great town game?
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Either you think I've suddenly become the shittest mafia player in the world where I bus all day to look awful not pushing rsoultin and don't even do anything at any point to mitigate my team dying or you're talking nonsense. Maybe you forget when I play as mafia but it sure as shit isn't suboptimal play into bad nks into afking.
If I bus you better belive I'm taking the credit to the bank and investing.
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On February 12 2018 17:58 Koshi wrote:
If HF is mafia not only does he play the best scum on this site. The level would also be too damn high.
Lest we forget.
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On February 09 2018 17:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
What I don't understand is why scum!Damdred votes rsoultin at 5v3. I think it would make a lot more sense in that scenario to just hammer mderg and try to gain town cred from it.
If Damdred is scum, his vote + Mderg's lack of vote on rsoultin is probably the least optimal play ever. I just don't get it Bad post. And the next 5 were also besides every point in the world.
On February 09 2018 18:03 Koshi wrote:
Like he doesnt understand something that is very easy to find 5 million reasons for to understand.
But that is even besides the point. DF doesnt open a door that it could be something like bad play or w.e the fuck.
DF also completely ignores the fact rsoultin is maybe mafia. He tr Damdred based on an unflipped player her alignment. And he himself voted rsoultin. I forgot how hard he tr her now.
DF also doesnt want to figure out this little riddle why Damdred did what he did. He just doesnt get it and closes his mind off to a solution.
And the worst thing. That post is not succint at all. I can say all that in 1 sentence. "Damdred play was not optimal if he is mafia with mderg, it was better to hammer mderg"
There is sooooooo much more wrong with that post but I am not typing more on mobile.
On February 10 2018 23:34 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi is wrong about me. His point about me forgetting rsoultin could be mafia is just Donald trump levels Wrong! "I forgot how hard he tr her" ?????? Please quote me that because I'm pretty sure it never happened
He's also now using this "his post style is not succinct" argument which he hasn't used against anyone else in the game.
Hopefully this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him stupid.
Disformation reminds me of Mocsta last game but with better posts. I haven't read his filter carefully but he could be mafia.
I'm fine with rsoultin/Damdred being the lynch but I'm voting rsoultin because she is still complaining about things that just aren't true (e.g. Town is being lazy today ?????). I have not gotten any vibes that she is trying to solve game. Plus she unvoted mderg first and that whole EoD. If damdred dies, that's fine too.
##vote: rsoultin
Basically this. I just think this accusation and D2 push on me is utter garbage made off of one post that isn't even bad like he claims.
I give Damdred credit as not a braindead mafia player, so his vote would've been much better served on mderg or something. His vote on rsoultin accomplishes nothing.
I forget ritoky is in this game man, holy shit
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