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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 26 2018 09:22 GMT
#1081
Interactions between hf and damwrion strange has piqued my interest

Will look into this further
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 26 2018 09:22 GMT
#1082
On January 26 2018 17:57 Rels wrote:
YOU RE TALKING ABOUT A DUDE THAT LIVED TWO LYNCHES WITH A RED CHECK.
"mm yeah he seems a little more active than the other dude, guess I'll lynch that other dude"
IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY
pls tell me this is another game?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 09:24 GMT
#1083
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

That makes no sense too. In your scenario, Kmatt tried to save Damerion well after everybody else voted him and thought the claim was fake. It was no an all-in play, it had 0 chance of working. It's way, way more likely that it's just was Kmatt was thinking.

If you're looking for an all-in play from the scum team, I'll give it to you:
- Damerion hints that he's cop during the night
- HF hints that he understands Damerion is blue during the night
- Damerion claims cop during the day, and uses HF's hints to townread HF
- HF backs up Damerion's claim, saying it makes sense
- When the rest of the town don't believe Damerion, he changes his mind
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 09:25 GMT
#1084
On January 26 2018 18:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 17:57 Rels wrote:
YOU RE TALKING ABOUT A DUDE THAT LIVED TWO LYNCHES WITH A RED CHECK.
"mm yeah he seems a little more active than the other dude, guess I'll lynch that other dude"
IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY
pls tell me this is another game?

yeah, it's the Himalaya's game I linked last page, in which HF was scum and red checked, and still managed to get the cop + another town lynch for the win.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 26 2018 09:28 GMT
#1085
On January 26 2018 17:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On January 26 2018 16:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
My suggestion is the following: lynch Holyflare. Should he flip town, let's lynch whoever he scumread.
not a good idea

Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle

Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum

Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare

I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy.

Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy

I this is annoying. I CREATED A COPYPASTA ABOVE WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE WAS TO FIGHT THIS:
"I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy."
NO. HF as scum has zero, 0, ZERO problem faking this. And it's 100% wrong he cared since D1, rsoul and I actually thought the only townie thing about him during N2 was that he was NOT caring enough ...

You CANNOT compare Kmatt and HF's play directly. It doesn't not work.
noted

Thinking about it furthwr. It doesnt matter anyway.
Scum is either kmatt or holyflare and we have enough mislynches available to do both

Regardless, I will make a committment to look into holyflare with open eyes.



justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 09:29 GMT
#1086
On January 26 2018 16:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 09:55 Kmatt wrote:
No I just can't buy this.

On January 26 2018 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
because if you're not mafia like rels is implying then you'll be next after I die and it would be good to get your reads out in the open you know?


I hate hate hate this post. How on Earth does Town!Holyflare back off now of all times? I don't pretend to have memorized meta, but I just can't accept anything but a full game-ending crusade against me at this point. I'll be the first to admit that my game so far is abysmal. I can't play town for shite to begin with, and this is a particularly foul example. You have every reason to doubt me. And you did! Repeatedly! There was a wall of text a few pages back.

Town!Holyflare has this game served to him on a silver platter. The only thing that happened between then and now is a red flip that you predicted when I defended him to the end. Suddenly Rels calls the banners and now you doubt my scumminess. I could almost see you going full OMGUS and turning on Rels, but you just alluded to him being town too. The only reason someone could reasonably townread me at this point is PoE (which requires a stronger scumread than me, which you didn't have an hour ago) or pure gut.


In case you haven't noticed I've been wrong on almost 100% of things I've said this game. It's also interesting because if you're town how is the game handed to me on a silver platter? That's just going to end in crusade against you and you flipping town and then a crusade against me.

I'm not gonna lie, I already know I'm going to get lynched today because we have jat and rels here who aren't gonna reconsider anything so the least I can do is try and actually figure you out.

You know perfectly well that I always reconsider. Also quit playing the victim. You aligned super hard with mafia and now people are suspicious of you, boohoo. You are better than that. I also never called your Kmatt stuff bad because I think you are mafia. It just does not convince me in a vacuum.
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 16:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
My suggestion is the following: lynch Holyflare. Should he flip town, let's lynch whoever he scumread.
not a good idea

Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle

Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum

Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare

I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy.

Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy

Like people already pointed out you will never lynch mafia HF then.

HF has a lot of time to convince the one of Rels and myself that survives the night if he is town. Starting with some more analysis than "Kmatt is scum" now that we know 2/3 of the mafia team and can look for important interactions would be good. But right now I think it is too dangerous to lynch someone else. I don't think he we can let him live after his blatant agenda pushing this game and I have no confidence that people will lynch him later in the game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 09:30 GMT
#1087
On January 26 2018 18:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

That makes no sense too. In your scenario, Kmatt tried to save Damerion well after everybody else voted him and thought the claim was fake. It was no an all-in play, it had 0 chance of working. It's way, way more likely that it's just was Kmatt was thinking.

If you're looking for an all-in play from the scum team, I'll give it to you:
- Damerion hints that he's cop during the night
- HF hints that he understands Damerion is blue during the night
- Damerion claims cop during the day, and uses HF's hints to townread HF
- HF backs up Damerion's claim, saying it makes sense
- When the rest of the town don't believe Damerion, he changes his mind

Yes, he just voted damerion when nothing had changed except for us pushing damerion. How come town HF doesn't figure this out himself? It seems unlikely.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 26 2018 09:31 GMT
#1088
On January 26 2018 18:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

That makes no sense too. In your scenario, Kmatt tried to save Damerion well after everybody else voted him and thought the claim was fake. It was no an all-in play, it had 0 chance of working. It's way, way more likely that it's just was Kmatt was thinking.

If you're looking for an all-in play from the scum team, I'll give it to you:
- Damerion hints that he's cop during the night
- HF hints that he understands Damerion is blue during the night
- Damerion claims cop during the day, and uses HF's hints to townread HF
- HF backs up Damerion's claim, saying it makes sense
- When the rest of the town don't believe Damerion, he changes his mind
hmmm i can see that working actually

Heck once the cop claim came i took my vote off

Its australia day and im drunk.
Will reevaluaye kmatt and holyflare if i make it to tomorrow
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 09:35 GMT
#1089
On January 26 2018 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 18:24 Rels wrote:
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

That makes no sense too. In your scenario, Kmatt tried to save Damerion well after everybody else voted him and thought the claim was fake. It was no an all-in play, it had 0 chance of working. It's way, way more likely that it's just was Kmatt was thinking.

If you're looking for an all-in play from the scum team, I'll give it to you:
- Damerion hints that he's cop during the night
- HF hints that he understands Damerion is blue during the night
- Damerion claims cop during the day, and uses HF's hints to townread HF
- HF backs up Damerion's claim, saying it makes sense
- When the rest of the town don't believe Damerion, he changes his mind
hmmm i can see that working actually

Heck once the cop claim came i took my vote off

Its australia day and im drunk.
Will reevaluaye kmatt and holyflare if i make it to tomorrow

What's Australian day ?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 26 2018 09:39 GMT
#1090
National day

Like american independance day
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 09:43 GMT
#1091
You mean like La Fête Nationale I'm sure
way more famous than independance day
Happy Australian Day then
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 26 2018 09:51 GMT
#1092
Lol

I know bastille day but not la fete nationale
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 10:10 GMT
#1093
lol never heard anyone says "Bastille Day". Apparently it's how english people are calling it. I didn't know that
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
January 26 2018 10:31 GMT
#1094
Loo

Even when i learnt french it was referred to as bastille day
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 10:43 GMT
#1095
On January 18 2018 17:18 Holyflare wrote:
Cos I'm town.

Also don't take mocsta's enthusiasm as towny. Looks pretty forced and says nothing.

On January 18 2018 17:26 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 17:18 Holyflare wrote:
Cos I'm town.

Also don't take mocsta's enthusiasm as towny. Looks pretty forced and says nothing.


Explain.

I take it you then have the opposite opinion of me on darth foley?

On January 18 2018 17:38 Holyflare wrote:
Too much in his filter to read.

On January 18 2018 18:18 rsoultin wrote:
Note to self: hf ignored question on darth foley entirely in his general sidestepping.

lul. This is literally in the first 20 posts of the game. rsoul MVP
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 10:47 GMT
#1096
On January 26 2018 17:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 09:50 Mocsta wrote:
No one is 100% scum till flipped bro

Damerion was 99%

yeah ofc, it's a matter of speech. But I'm convinced HF is the last scum.


Then stop harping on about it, leave your votes on me and talk to kmatt and actually get him to produce some reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 26 2018 10:49 GMT
#1097
On January 26 2018 17:57 Rels wrote:
YOU RE TALKING ABOUT A DUDE THAT LIVED TWO LYNCHES WITH A RED CHECK.
"mm yeah he seems a little more active than the other dude, guess I'll lynch that other dude"
IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY


Link a game since I've been working where I've been anything close to past me. You can't because it doesn't exist.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 10:50 GMT
#1098
On January 26 2018 19:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 17:52 Rels wrote:
On January 26 2018 09:50 Mocsta wrote:
No one is 100% scum till flipped bro

Damerion was 99%

yeah ofc, it's a matter of speech. But I'm convinced HF is the last scum.


Then stop harping on about it, leave your votes on me and talk to kmatt and actually get him to produce some reads.

I will actually do the opposite and do my maximum to make sure you don't escape the lynch like you tend to do as scum. Ofc you're welcome to convince me you're town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 26 2018 10:56 GMT
#1099
On January 26 2018 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 17:57 Rels wrote:
YOU RE TALKING ABOUT A DUDE THAT LIVED TWO LYNCHES WITH A RED CHECK.
"mm yeah he seems a little more active than the other dude, guess I'll lynch that other dude"
IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY


Link a game since I've been working where I've been anything close to past me. You can't because it doesn't exist.

Maybe, but that's really irrelevant. The effort you have shown so far can come from mafia HF regardless of any constraints.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 26 2018 10:58 GMT
#1100
On January 26 2018 19:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
On January 26 2018 17:57 Rels wrote:
YOU RE TALKING ABOUT A DUDE THAT LIVED TWO LYNCHES WITH A RED CHECK.
"mm yeah he seems a little more active than the other dude, guess I'll lynch that other dude"
IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY


Link a game since I've been working where I've been anything close to past me. You can't because it doesn't exist.

Maybe, but that's really irrelevant. The effort you have shown so far can come from mafia HF regardless of any constraints.

yep. My post he quoted was not a point against him this game, it was a warning to other players that they shouldn't let him off the hook easily. So his response was totally off target.
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