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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
A) Damerion is scum B) I'm buddying him, and therefore also scum Then Damerion flips red, you get perfect validation of your theory, yet somehow I'm less than 100% scum despite nothing happening to change the above interpretation. The only reason Rels doesn't have me as scum is because he specifically targets you. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Damerion was 99% | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Whats less from a townie perspective Discussing blue claim during night with no blue nk Or fishing for roles during after cc? | ||
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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
On January 26 2018 09:20 Holyflare wrote: because if you're not mafia like rels is implying then you'll be next after I die and it would be good to get your reads out in the open you know? I hate hate hate this post. How on Earth does Town!Holyflare back off now of all times? I don't pretend to have memorized meta, but I just can't accept anything but a full game-ending crusade against me at this point. I'll be the first to admit that my game so far is abysmal. I can't play town for shite to begin with, and this is a particularly foul example. You have every reason to doubt me. And you did! Repeatedly! There was a wall of text a few pages back. Town!Holyflare has this game served to him on a silver platter. The only thing that happened between then and now is a red flip that you predicted when I defended him to the end. Suddenly Rels calls the banners and now you doubt my scumminess. I could almost see you going full OMGUS and turning on Rels, but you just alluded to him being town too. The only reason someone could reasonably townread me at this point is PoE (which requires a stronger scumread than me, which you didn't have an hour ago) or pure gut. | ||
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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
On January 26 2018 09:06 Rels wrote: | ||
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Kmatt
United States1019 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On January 25 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote: No, they are really quite the opposite. Pull your head out of your arse and actually read the content he is writing that has to do with roles that nobody has talked about and shows he's thinking in a mafia way that nobody would think about (yes, Mocsta just posted about this later but that's far far later than this immediate response): Look at the certainty by "Yes, a Godfather is on the table" and the way he thinks about claiming rbs from people that are dead. Then also look at how he goes about throwing suspicion. 90% of his post is dedicated to wifom about roles and what mafia would do and literally one sentence is dedicated to the person who he actually scum reads but it has NO information whatsoever about that slot! The person he wants to lynch the most is because of this reason + the continued afking. Nothing more. He wants to lynch a slot that he townread. THEN don't even get me started on how many times he's defended damerion trying to get us to wagon someone else AND also draw out a blue today. Let's just look at that last sentence too: MAYBE HF. But nothing has changed with me today so why is my name there? It's literally because people are throwing my name around and making me a viable lynch. This is what he's had to say about me the entire game: ^ TODAY Mocsta is null, lot of words no content. BTDT is suspicious and he questions the RB. JAT has replaced twat who he is randomly suspicious of but that name doesn't appear. My name does. Why? There is no congruence throughout his filter. He appears at random points in the thread to drop a comment here and there with irrelevance and the most active he's been in this game is to defend damerion. He also hipster defended damdred for 0 reasons whatsoever too. Plz lynch after today. | ||
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justanothertownie
16324 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On January 26 2018 09:55 Kmatt wrote: No I just can't buy this. I hate hate hate this post. How on Earth does Town!Holyflare back off now of all times? I don't pretend to have memorized meta, but I just can't accept anything but a full game-ending crusade against me at this point. I'll be the first to admit that my game so far is abysmal. I can't play town for shite to begin with, and this is a particularly foul example. You have every reason to doubt me. And you did! Repeatedly! There was a wall of text a few pages back. Town!Holyflare has this game served to him on a silver platter. The only thing that happened between then and now is a red flip that you predicted when I defended him to the end. Suddenly Rels calls the banners and now you doubt my scumminess. I could almost see you going full OMGUS and turning on Rels, but you just alluded to him being town too. The only reason someone could reasonably townread me at this point is PoE (which requires a stronger scumread than me, which you didn't have an hour ago) or pure gut. In case you haven't noticed I've been wrong on almost 100% of things I've said this game. It's also interesting because if you're town how is the game handed to me on a silver platter? That's just going to end in crusade against you and you flipping town and then a crusade against me. I'm not gonna lie, I already know I'm going to get lynched today because we have jat and rels here who aren't gonna reconsider anything so the least I can do is try and actually figure you out. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
So, again, please, just a few names and a sentence on why they are scummy  | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 26 2018 16:51 beentheredonethat wrote: not a good ideaMy suggestion is the following: lynch Holyflare. Should he flip town, let's lynch whoever he scumread. Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy. Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 26 2018 15:22 justanothertownie wrote: indeed. Caught out on setup for the super all-in.Ha, he was the rb too. You are welcome town. Twat was town and so is jat | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 26 2018 09:15 Holyflare wrote: There's a big disconnect between hf being the best mafia player on the site and mafia holyflare doing something blatantly anti town like calling out a cop claim. Does not compute. and here comes the "too scummy to be scum" defense. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 26 2018 09:13 Kmatt wrote: Could you link me the game where town ignores cop's check? That takes a special kind of stupid. I'm not above voting him though, he's been on my list anyway. In fact I don't think he's ever not someone I want to lynch. I'm pretty sure it was this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas Didn't check, but the players list match what I remember | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 26 2018 09:50 Mocsta wrote: No one is 100% scum till flipped bro Damerion was 99% yeah ofc, it's a matter of speech. But I'm convinced HF is the last scum. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 26 2018 09:53 Mocsta wrote: Rels Whats less from a townie perspective Discussing blue claim during night with no blue nk Or fishing for roles during after cc? The first one. It's not even a debate. Have you never played as scum before ? Don't you know how HARD it is to go against something if every other player have decided something else ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote: not a good idea Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy. Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy I this is annoying. I CREATED A COPYPASTA ABOVE WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE WAS TO FIGHT THIS: "I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy." NO. HF as scum has zero, 0, ZERO problem faking this. And it's 100% wrong he cared since D1, rsoul and I actually thought the only townie thing about him during N2 was that he was NOT caring enough ... You CANNOT compare Kmatt and HF's play directly. It doesn't not work. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
"mm yeah he seems a little more active than the other dude, guess I'll lynch that other dude" IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote: not a good idea Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy. Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy That's flawed reasoning. Especially Hf is very capable of being active as scum even when the game is very slow. From day1 on almost everything Hf has done was blatantly anti town. pushing damdred, soft defending df, hard defending damerion, pushing prplhz(which was understandable, though). Then he softed a blue findand he only really stopped hard defending Damerion when it was clear he was gonna be lynched. Also the interactions between him and Damerion have been strange from the beginning of the game with how much he trusted him. The nightkills also were on people who were at least suspicious of him. I could buy most of those things on their own. But all of those together? That would be a very strange coincidence. Even considering that kmatt is looking pretty scummy I want to lynch Hf over him. | ||
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