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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 25 2018 08:27 Mocsta wrote: The whole irony of this is: HF lynched damdred for a reaction he believes was Now Rels has pinged HF in the same reaction loop. And HF doesnt want a bar of it lol. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On January 25 2018 08:21 Rels wrote: The recent posts where he doesn't want to lynch Damerion against everyone are actually pretty townie. No, they are really quite the opposite. Pull your head out of your arse and actually read the content he is writing that has to do with roles that nobody has talked about and shows he's thinking in a mafia way that nobody would think about (yes, Mocsta just posted about this later but that's far far later than this immediate response): On January 24 2018 15:00 Kmatt wrote: As much as I dislike HF's post for reasons Mocsta stated above, a Godfather is certainly on the table. I'd be happy lynching the Twat Slot/JAT today. BTDT is sketchy too, but I'm still unsure how to interpret his roleblock claim. I know if I was playing as Godfather I could use that excuse if I knew the people who had been roleblocked are dead and I can claim it uncontested. If there's no RB in a (semi-)closed setup then I'd be even bolder to take that potential credit. I'll wait to hear more on him. Look at the certainty by "Yes, a Godfather is on the table" and the way he thinks about claiming rbs from people that are dead. Then also look at how he goes about throwing suspicion. 90% of his post is dedicated to wifom about roles and what mafia would do and literally one sentence is dedicated to the person who he actually scum reads but it has NO information whatsoever about that slot! Real quick, does anyone find Twat to be sketchy at this point? I had him casually marked as town like most people earlier, but he ducked out immediately after asking a question earlier. The person he wants to lynch the most is because of this reason + the continued afking. Nothing more. He wants to lynch a slot that he townread. THEN don't even get me started on how many times he's defended damerion trying to get us to wagon someone else AND also draw out a blue today. On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote: I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches. Let's just look at that last sentence too: MAYBE HF. But nothing has changed with me today so why is my name there? It's literally because people are throwing my name around and making me a viable lynch. This is what he's had to say about me the entire game: On January 24 2018 15:06 Kmatt wrote: Beyond that I'm willing to accept Damerion's claim(s), which puts the remaining potential townies at Mocsta/Rels/HF/Mderg. Rels is on the nice list, as is Mderg. HF is still HF, but he's certainly not my vote today. Mocsta is more null to me. A lot of text but nothing stands out to say "This guy is town". Cop checks are a bit more reliable than my gut, so until we get into a 4-way cop claim-off I'll let him slide. ^ TODAY Mocsta is null, lot of words no content. BTDT is suspicious and he questions the RB. JAT has replaced twat who he is randomly suspicious of but that name doesn't appear. My name does. Why? There is no congruence throughout his filter. He appears at random points in the thread to drop a comment here and there with irrelevance and the most active he's been in this game is to defend damerion. He also hipster defended damdred for 0 reasons whatsoever too. Plz lynch after today. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On January 25 2018 08:29 Mocsta wrote: No, im saying you are presenting biased position. "im town, i was excited to find the cop crumb" well, if anything, mafia are more excited is the other side of the coin. NAI. No, mafia is only excited if he's the actual cop. And you're saying he's not the actual cop... ergo... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
I will admit my first read is compelling, and you made me nod my head. In particular, given that this individual is self-admittedly barely reading the game: the godfather instant assertion I think is a bona fide point to raise. The non-congruence is potentially NAI as it may be be associated with reading in pockets of time. You have motivated me to look through his filter in more depth, bbs | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 25 2018 08:35 Holyflare wrote: I hate this saying, but at this point I will agree to disagree.No, mafia is only excited if he's the actual cop. And you're saying he's not the actual cop... ergo... Its not worth shitting the thread up on this matter any further. mafia are excited to find blue crumbs, and obviously also excited when the blue is manifested. /end | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
sublte confidence when responding to reads on town players e.g On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote: [re: prplhz] I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already. On January 20 2018 01:51 Kmatt wrote: This is of note as HF pointed out, because, there is nothing to represent why the reaction WAS NOT seriously incriminating.Also I don't see myself voting Damdred today unless he does something seriously incriminating. [..]. Its also interesting that his activity spikes to peak levels following the cop play, with an intent to draw a claim. On January 25 2018 03:45 Kmatt wrote: lmao no. If I see a counterclaim of any other blue I would hang him on the spot. The fact that no townie is taking an easy 1-for-1 tells me that he wasn't bullshitting. The other point of interest is the Day1 vote. On January 20 2018 09:00 kitaman27 wrote: After DF flipped, I thought that a scum kmatt would HAVE to vote as too risky for foley.Day One Final Vote Count Damdred (4): Damerion, Holyflare, TheTwatyEvildoer, beentheredonethat (4): darthfoley (3): Damdred, KelsierSC, rsoultin Not Voting (2): Kmatt, beentheredonethat Damdred has been lynched. However, when you re-look at the order the votes came in, the line-in-the-sand was quite firmly drawn (i.e. existing vote count was committed).. so even if BTDT voted on DF, Damdred would still be lynched for getting to 4 votes first. Its an interesting observation with hindsight now, because kmatt actually had the power to lynch btdt to save df. | ||
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Mocsta
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Found this lol "also we can make the basic assumption based on our roles that there's 2 town PRs. likely 1 cop/vigi and 1 doc/vet" | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
On January 25 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote: No, they are really quite the opposite. Pull your head out of your arse and actually read the content he is writing that has to do with roles that nobody has talked about and shows he's thinking in a mafia way that nobody would think about (yes, Mocsta just posted about this later but that's far far later than this immediate response): Look at the certainty by "Yes, a Godfather is on the table" and the way he thinks about claiming rbs from people that are dead. Then also look at how he goes about throwing suspicion. 90% of his post is dedicated to wifom about roles and what mafia would do and literally one sentence is dedicated to the person who he actually scum reads but it has NO information whatsoever about that slot! The person he wants to lynch the most is because of this reason + the continued afking. Nothing more. He wants to lynch a slot that he townread. THEN don't even get me started on how many times he's defended damerion trying to get us to wagon someone else AND also draw out a blue today. Let's just look at that last sentence too: MAYBE HF. But nothing has changed with me today so why is my name there? It's literally because people are throwing my name around and making me a viable lynch. This is what he's had to say about me the entire game: ^ TODAY Mocsta is null, lot of words no content. BTDT is suspicious and he questions the RB. JAT has replaced twat who he is randomly suspicious of but that name doesn't appear. My name does. Why? There is no congruence throughout his filter. He appears at random points in the thread to drop a comment here and there with irrelevance and the most active he's been in this game is to defend damerion. He also hipster defended damdred for 0 reasons whatsoever too. Plz lynch after today. Great post. | ||
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justanothertownie
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Are there still any doubters if this lynch? I seriously hope not. Damerion has accepted defeat. | ||
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Mocsta
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Thoughts on kmatt stuff above? | ||
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justanothertownie
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Mocsta
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Howevee the day1 lynch would only hit darthfoley if both absentee voters placed their votes together. If the two absent voters are town. Scum should be panicked given dameriom and dathfoley were locked on thrir targrts. However if one of the absent voters is scum. Well. Darthfoley was never at risk of being lynched. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 25 2018 22:51 justanothertownie wrote: i thought the first part was quite solid acutallyNot a lot. Doesn't really convince me. Sure, I don't have a good reason to think kmatt is town but this stuff does not do it for me. Especially the first part of HFs post just looks like he is trying to paint something weird as scummy when it is just weird. I dont understand town motivation for this from any perspective. Why cant weird correlate with scummy? The wholr point of this game is to catch people acting awkward because they are being intentionally psychopathic? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On January 25 2018 22:53 justanothertownie wrote: I also do not award scumpoints for defending damerion this phase and have no idea why HF does. Not sure if this is a typo As can be construes that you are awarsing HF toen points lol Im pretty sure this isnt what you meant | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
One weird interaction in isolation may be meaningless This is about multiple weird events and improved context given flips. For a guy that doesnt have firm scum reads.. he sure as heck has excellent town reads through these "weird" comments and no explanation | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On January 25 2018 23:13 Mocsta wrote: Not sure if this is a typo As can be construes that you are awarsing HF toen points lol Im pretty sure this isnt what you meant No typo there but maybe misunderstanding? I do not think it is scummy to defend damerion today. HF apparently does think so. I think defending him on prior days is far scummier. Sure, weird and scum can correlate in many cases but I will not lynch a newbie for being a little awkward and if you do you won't win a lot of newbie games as town. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Anything to do with damerion today is wifom Eslecially because thread absence does not ewuate to qt absence I think caution should br applied in particular when he also was fishing for a counter claim Definitely not pro town mkve. Even more so with coaching factor | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On January 25 2018 23:27 Mocsta wrote: Hf comment is understood now Anything to do with damerion today is wifom Eslecially because thread absence does not ewuate to qt absence I think caution should br applied in particular when he also was fishing for a counter claim Definitely not pro town mkve. Even more so with coaching factor Sure, not pro town at all. But also quite ballsy as mafia. Risky play for a low chance of success given the state of the game | ||
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