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On January 25 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2018 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, he is really blatantly pushing mafia agenda eod1. No shame whatsoever. But HF is the guy to do this. What exactly was the reason to townread him? Because in the lead up to the lynch where it was a race between a town and a mafia there is absolutely no apathy to be found. continue to read. And maybe apathy is the wrong choice of words, but it's the fact that his reads are static and haven't changed at all since the beginning of the game. I would expect scum!HF's game to be stronger than this. But now I think HF know this and is abusing it to appear "too scummy to be scum" compared to the expectation of his scum play. If he was town, him accepting Damerion's claim at face value is absolutely dumb. It's not only static reads anymore.
Yes, how is a town HF just accepting that claim without a doubt. I do not see it.
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On January 25 2018 01:14 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2018 01:10 justanothertownie wrote:On January 20 2018 06:09 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:06 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 05:39 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
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Damdred No problem with lynching btdt or damdred. Now you're making noise. Didn't you dislike df before? No I also dislike df but I won't lie and say that I've read anything he's said. Have no problem lynching him but I'm very very sure on damdred. No way he keeps both of these mafia reads for the whole game. So why are you more fine with btdt than df? You didn't seem to be concerned at all about the btdt counterwagon and now you're yelling. On January 20 2018 06:33 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.
What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.
Maybe I should be less active instead then? No, I mean you claiming that your difference in behavior to two different counterwagons is related to work is unverifiable. Could you perhaps have only time to read one post and that explains your reaction? Sure. Could it be you are scum and we're now pushing scum so suddenly it's more important to push the counterwagon, i.e. damdred? Sure. There is no way for me to know which of the two it is. It looks suspicious if darth foley flips scum because of that. No more, no less. Feel free to be as active as you like. I'm done with you for now. ^^^^ Interesting observation considering the damdred/darthfoley flips. The question is: is this coincidence and does HF just have a really bad towngame or is he simply mafia? I changed my mind a few times regarding this question. But HF total lack of interest when he thought we had a claim / counterclaim situation + him believing Damerion instantly make me think he's scum and just faking this apathy. Cause it's the only thing me and rsoul townread him for.
What was the correct reaction? You have to see it from my perspective tbh. I spend the game looking at Damerion giving him the massive benefit of the doubt and crumbing cop all night so I'm excited that I was actually right. Then btdt claims rb on my way into work and I'm deflated af because I think it's a cc and my ego takes another hit at being wrong so I just auto vote Damerion and go to work (which is super busy) and don't care much more than that.
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On January 25 2018 01:28 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:On January 25 2018 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, he is really blatantly pushing mafia agenda eod1. No shame whatsoever. But HF is the guy to do this. What exactly was the reason to townread him? Because in the lead up to the lynch where it was a race between a town and a mafia there is absolutely no apathy to be found. continue to read. And maybe apathy is the wrong choice of words, but it's the fact that his reads are static and haven't changed at all since the beginning of the game. I would expect scum!HF's game to be stronger than this. But now I think HF know this and is abusing it to appear "too scummy to be scum" compared to the expectation of his scum play. If he was town, him accepting Damerion's claim at face value is absolutely dumb. It's not only static reads anymore. Yes, how is a town HF just accepting that claim without a doubt. I do not see it.
Because in a race between town damdred, mafia dathfoley and questionable alignment btdt in which any single one of them could be lynched mafia darthfoley switched to btdt instead of damdred. Compare that to someone under the hammer claiming cop with 2 greens then yeah, not really a contest.
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On January 25 2018 01:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2018 01:28 justanothertownie wrote:On January 25 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:On January 25 2018 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, he is really blatantly pushing mafia agenda eod1. No shame whatsoever. But HF is the guy to do this. What exactly was the reason to townread him? Because in the lead up to the lynch where it was a race between a town and a mafia there is absolutely no apathy to be found. continue to read. And maybe apathy is the wrong choice of words, but it's the fact that his reads are static and haven't changed at all since the beginning of the game. I would expect scum!HF's game to be stronger than this. But now I think HF know this and is abusing it to appear "too scummy to be scum" compared to the expectation of his scum play. If he was town, him accepting Damerion's claim at face value is absolutely dumb. It's not only static reads anymore. Yes, how is a town HF just accepting that claim without a doubt. I do not see it. Because in a race between town damdred, mafia dathfoley and questionable alignment btdt in which any single one of them could be lynched mafia darthfoley switched to btdt instead of damdred. Compare that to someone under the hammer claiming cop with 2 greens then yeah, not really a contest.
There was a time where only damerion had claimed and you believed him. That's what I am talking about.
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On January 25 2018 01:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2018 01:14 Rels wrote:On January 25 2018 01:10 justanothertownie wrote:On January 20 2018 06:09 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:06 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 05:39 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 05:24 Holyflare wrote:
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Damdred No problem with lynching btdt or damdred. Now you're making noise. Didn't you dislike df before? No I also dislike df but I won't lie and say that I've read anything he's said. Have no problem lynching him but I'm very very sure on damdred. No way he keeps both of these mafia reads for the whole game. So why are you more fine with btdt than df? You didn't seem to be concerned at all about the btdt counterwagon and now you're yelling. On January 20 2018 06:33 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.
What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.
Maybe I should be less active instead then? No, I mean you claiming that your difference in behavior to two different counterwagons is related to work is unverifiable. Could you perhaps have only time to read one post and that explains your reaction? Sure. Could it be you are scum and we're now pushing scum so suddenly it's more important to push the counterwagon, i.e. damdred? Sure. There is no way for me to know which of the two it is. It looks suspicious if darth foley flips scum because of that. No more, no less. Feel free to be as active as you like. I'm done with you for now. ^^^^ Interesting observation considering the damdred/darthfoley flips. The question is: is this coincidence and does HF just have a really bad towngame or is he simply mafia? I changed my mind a few times regarding this question. But HF total lack of interest when he thought we had a claim / counterclaim situation + him believing Damerion instantly make me think he's scum and just faking this apathy. Cause it's the only thing me and rsoul townread him for. What was the correct reaction? You have to see it from my perspective tbh. I spend the game looking at Damerion giving him the massive benefit of the doubt and crumbing cop all night so I'm excited that I was actually right. Then btdt claims rb on my way into work and I'm deflated af because I think it's a cc and my ego takes another hit at being wrong so I just auto vote Damerion and go to work (which is super busy) and don't care much more than that.
Not that. And come to think of it, I'm pretty sure you would never soft that you thought damerion was blue during the night. As town that gets you nothing. As scum that prepares damerion s claim.
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On January 24 2018 23:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2018 23:05 beentheredonethat wrote:
Which brings me back to the original "wait, D3 and HF is alive" thing which I came up with jokingly. Reading OP is for scum and chumps he says yet he's not considered to be a chump, eh?
I mean we're still lynching into uncced blue. So? If he was real he would be rbed until all eternity now. He is literally useless now if he is the cop. Which he isn't. There is no way this setup has both a cop and a vig.
You're just repeating what I said already  . I'm a bit torn on that matter.
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On January 24 2018 23:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
So Tina cased Damerion. Tina dies. Damerion claims cop. This is seriously fishy. The Tina kill makes Damerion the next lynch, almost auto. Even him claiming couldn't avert this. Which makes Tina the obvious easy kill choice for scum.
But this stays fishy, plus the claim not being a red-check claim.
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Like, you usually spout bullshit about roles during the night to confuse scum. But not only you don't do this this game, you even soft that you found a blue, risking him being killed or roleblocked for no gain if scum understands you.
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Im pretty sure that makes you scum actually. Gotta have to reread what you've softed exactly when I'm home.
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The most important thing is that Holyflare called Tina bad only once. Tina died.
I think HF is scum.
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On January 25 2018 01:37 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2018 23:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
So Tina cased Damerion. Tina dies. Damerion claims cop. This is seriously fishy. The Tina kill makes Damerion the next lynch, almost auto. Even him claiming couldn't avert this. Which makes Tina the obvious easy kill choice for scum. But this stays fishy, plus the claim not being a red-check claim.
There is nothing fishy about that. The first point literally makes no sense and the "no redcheck" part is easily explained. It is a claim for survival and not to trade 1 for 1 with town (which is generally bad for mafia).
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On January 25 2018 01:37 Rels wrote:
Im pretty sure that makes you scum actually. Gotta have to reread what you've softed exactly when I'm home.
I also fail to see the town motivation for this.
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On January 20 2018 23:26 Mocsta wrote:I shall illuminate my top 2 reads in further detail to connect how and more importantly why they are a scum pairing. Please refer to my 4000 word case below. Why is DF scumRead DF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this.... + Show Spoiler +Why is HF scumRead HF Filter, and dont tell me you dont see this... + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHo1KpOjCsKi538Y_c9XMB_mN5vCd0B0Vw94Wupj4u4XP7Qkpj) and... wait for it. ![[image loading]](https://media1.tenor.com/images/bd7e85e963017a2ae67c845649af98e6/tenor.gif?itemid=7658718)
This post is fucking brutal if Mocsta is mafia. Shitting on your teammate that hard...
Not very likely.
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On January 25 2018 01:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2018 01:30 Holyflare wrote:On January 25 2018 01:28 justanothertownie wrote:On January 25 2018 01:26 Rels wrote:On January 25 2018 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, he is really blatantly pushing mafia agenda eod1. No shame whatsoever. But HF is the guy to do this. What exactly was the reason to townread him? Because in the lead up to the lynch where it was a race between a town and a mafia there is absolutely no apathy to be found. continue to read. And maybe apathy is the wrong choice of words, but it's the fact that his reads are static and haven't changed at all since the beginning of the game. I would expect scum!HF's game to be stronger than this. But now I think HF know this and is abusing it to appear "too scummy to be scum" compared to the expectation of his scum play. If he was town, him accepting Damerion's claim at face value is absolutely dumb. It's not only static reads anymore. Yes, how is a town HF just accepting that claim without a doubt. I do not see it. Because in a race between town damdred, mafia dathfoley and questionable alignment btdt in which any single one of them could be lynched mafia darthfoley switched to btdt instead of damdred. Compare that to someone under the hammer claiming cop with 2 greens then yeah, not really a contest. There was a time where only damerion had claimed and you believed him. That's what I am talking about.
Didn't think vig cop was that unbalanced tbh. Still don't.
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I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches.
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On January 25 2018 02:36 Kmatt wrote:
I don't like lynching Damerion here without a counterclaim. It may not have been the best plan to spill the beans at the moment, but lynching him wins us no information at this point, and is unlikely to flip red (unless there's a counterclaim. Doc, if you're out there, now would be a good time). Even if he gets suppressed the rest of the game, he still votes with the town and/or eats a nightkill. As it stands BTDT or maybe HF are the better lynches.
You don't have to save your godfather lol.
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Couple of things about Damerion:
I don't really have any idea of his mafia reads and why. This is a big flaw in his play.
I don't believe he'd ever check btdt night 2 when btdt was voted by df in the way he was.
I think he is the gf because he didn't think about whether or not any of his green checks were gf.
Kmatt blatant partner.
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lmao no. If I see a counterclaim of any other blue I would hang him on the spot. The fact that no townie is taking an easy 1-for-1 tells me that he wasn't bullshitting.
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Why does there have to be another blue? There's lots of newbie games with just one role. Also if there was a doctor then why would they claim when Damerion is already being lynched? Furthermore they would die tonight and it would be a waste.
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On January 25 2018 03:45 Kmatt wrote:
lmao no. If I see a counterclaim of any other blue I would hang him on the spot. The fact that no townie is taking an easy 1-for-1 tells me that he wasn't bullshitting.
Why would we ever reward his play with outing our power roles. Seriously, do not claim if you are a protective role.
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