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On November 21 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 01:56 darthfoley wrote:On November 21 2017 01:44 ruXxar wrote:On November 21 2017 01:27 darthfoley wrote: It's just bad how I have 6 votes for one question and "being aggressive all over the place" which is more or less what happened in last game D1. I guess I can understand it from the POV of people who haven't played much with me, but those like Oats and Koshi voting me without much justification is bad or mafia or both Talk to me about koshi. I find it easier on my patience to just ignore him My only beef with him is that he squated down on my wagon for no reason. So I guess you could say i'm not a fan. No idea what he's trying to do right now. What do you make of Oats/Stan/TW? Tbh they’re all can lynch today, and I’d lynch any of them over you. Oats meta is off the charts. He doesn’t resemble neither his town or scum game from what I know of him. He’s done less towny things than usual though, and the things he’s done seem forced and artificial. Stan is a scum lean, don’t have much to add. TW also scum lean. In particular this post made was iffy. He looks like he got caught with his pants down and attempts a witty response to brush it off. The fact still remains that the guy has no scum reads. Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 14:43 Tumblewood wrote: no real scumreads so i'm gonna try the thing where you ask people questions Right now he seems to be carefully prodding around, not trying to make any waves.
That's annoying as I was just about to say I want to lynch TW.
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TW should be the lynch, I am unsure of ruxxar which does give me pause but yeh it's tricky.
I already said I didn't like his entry to the thread so no need to harp on that.
Since that point he hasn't made any contributions except trying to defend df ,forgive me but I don't see why. df didn't seem super town at that point,
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote: @hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?
He then backtracks saying he wasn't trying to defend df, so is df scummy then?
He said he doesn't have any scumreads but wants to ask questions.
On November 20 2017 14:43 Tumblewood wrote: no real scumreads so i'm gonna try the thing where you ask people questions
Since then he asked like one question to hf. Which was a terrible question because hf had already explained the answer.
On November 21 2017 01:04 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 00:47 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote: VE, Ruxx, Conversion maybe HF town
HF can you explain how Ruxx is "looking in the wrong places" or whatever you said? Examples etc Didn't like his questioning on stan or whatever his name is. Was quite obvious he meant that damdred, if mafia, would have a good town read on ruxxar. Then his posts he picks out throughout the game just seem really odd. He presses the kelsier point far too much and like I said in my post earlier to you, what is mafia kelsier's motive to lie about a post that stuck out from the thread? Seems really fucking stupid to do and a stupid line of questioning. He's just picking on things that don't align in my mind with what a towny would pick on. His scum list is basically that he couldn't understand a basic stan read and kelsier bs. ok i know you said rux was town for dumbtelling, but that seems to have disappeared and you also called ve conftown for the same thing. why is rux not conftown in your mind?
So no real contributions, not really paying attention and imo defending df who he probably already knows is town.
##Vote Tumblewood
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ruxxar and conversion both seem scummy to me . I don't know if they are trying to get a wagon off df for cred or trying to save a partner. Either way it probably makes Stan town.
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On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote: damdred am i town?
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On November 21 2017 02:54 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote: damdred am i town? Idk, dont have a read on you. And honestly i do t like your stan read at all.
damdred is probably mafia,
if he is town he 100% reads me as town at this point.
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I'm out until deadline , don't screw up
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I need to read through what happened.
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On November 21 2017 05:57 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 05:54 KelsierSC wrote: I need to read through what happened. The real question: did we screw it up?
yeh pretty fucking bad
don't know how TW didn't get lynched.
Some comment oats made was pretty fucking special something like "why does mafia tw defend town df"... yeh buddy because mafia never defends town.
Oats has played enough games to know that comment is really stupid or he has been repeatedly stomped in the head since we last played.
Probably lynch between oats and TW tomorrow.
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i'm done for the night, don't expect any posts until D2 starts.
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Just about to go to the gym so going to bash out a few thoughts before day 2 starts.
Most importantly who I would want want to lynch tomorrow, TW, rux, conversion.
I don't even think TW needs explanation.
rux's reaction to me leaving and making a joke was super fake anger. , it just shows his weird focus and not really engaging in anything.
Haven't liked conversion all game, still don't.
I'm still undecided on darth I think he's likely town just from how others have interacted with him , like ruxxar said darth was bleeding town at a time where he wasn't bleeding town, just not being as bad as before. That felt like a bonus for df and a minus for rux.
I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.
I don't have many town, I like boson and Stan, I liked chez early on but that read was on tone mostly I like VE, VE said something this night phase which was pretty smart but I don't remember exactly what it was. Can't be asked to find the quote but i'll look it up later.
Damdred is sort of weird, I was kind of suspect on him , then when he didn't read me town in a situation where he should have made me call him mafia but he claimed vig, I read PR as mafia so maybe he's real.
Lastly palmar, hapa and koshi.
Palmar and koshi are playing sort of weird but they are both experienced players with a good range so I don't know what to do with them. I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.
Then again at least one town voted on hf so some people are a little special.
As for me being "anti town" i'm probably the only player in the game who voted on mafia D1.
This isn't the most coherent piece so I will read and answer any relevant questions when I get back from working out
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On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.
I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.
ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town. That town read makes no sense. I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred. This hapa read is just straight up wrong.
I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine.
I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early.
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On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.
I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.
ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town. That town read makes no sense. I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred. This hapa read is just straight up wrong. I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine. I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early. Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth. Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF?
I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said.
second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team.
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On November 22 2017 06:26 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2017 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.
I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.
ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town. That town read makes no sense. I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred. This hapa read is just straight up wrong. I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine. I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early. Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth. Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF? I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said. second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team. Hapa clearly didn't want to Lynch Darth after he posted that huge "ITS A TRAP" post, come on dude. No, I want you to rationalize why I would switch onto holyflare at huge risk to myself considering what I said when the holyflare wagon was pretty dead if im mafia.
i don't understand you question at all. D1 you seemed genuine in your efforts to lynch df which seemed town to me. Yes if you were mafia you would have a hard time justifying a switch onto hf i guess. but if you are town and you believe df is mafia you wouldn't switch so it's irrelevant.
Hapa said darth was scummy and voted him early D1 at a time i thought darth was scummy so i townread him for that. Around votes he acted weird so i'm unsure of that.
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On November 22 2017 06:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2017 06:32 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 06:26 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.
I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.
ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town. That town read makes no sense. I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred. This hapa read is just straight up wrong. I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine. I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early. Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth. Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF? I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said. second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team. Hapa clearly didn't want to Lynch Darth after he posted that huge "ITS A TRAP" post, come on dude. No, I want you to rationalize why I would switch onto holyflare at huge risk to myself considering what I said when the holyflare wagon was pretty dead if im mafia. i don't understand you question at all. D1 you seemed genuine in your efforts to lynch df which seemed town to me. Yes if you were mafia you would have a hard time justifying a switch onto hf i guess. but if you are town and you believe df is mafia you wouldn't switch so it's irrelevant. Hapa said darth was scummy and voted him early D1 at a time i thought darth was scummy so i townread him for that. Around votes he acted weird so i'm unsure of that. I want you to justify why I only stay on Darth if im town and I switch to holyflare if im mafia. Hapa said that his read on Darth was a trap............... You are still townreading him for it.
you just aren't reading my posts so there is no point
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On November 22 2017 06:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2017 06:32 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 06:26 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 06:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:On November 22 2017 04:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.
I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.
ok so the situation at the end of day 1 is that the 3 people being lynched are all people that kelsier has a townread on, or not a scumread at the very least. He thinks im townie for not switching from one town to another town?!? If im mafia, i couldnt care less who actually got lynched yesterday assuming they are all town. That town read makes no sense. I deleted the part where he says that hes probably the only one who voted for mafia on day 1 which is completely irrelevant and seems extremely scummy for trying to get cred. This hapa read is just straight up wrong. I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine. I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early. Go read hapa's filter again and tell me if he really wanted to Lynch Darth. Yes, but why wouldn't mafia!oats do exactly the same thing? Why would mafia oats switch to HF? I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said. second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team. Hapa clearly didn't want to Lynch Darth after he posted that huge "ITS A TRAP" post, come on dude. No, I want you to rationalize why I would switch onto holyflare at huge risk to myself considering what I said when the holyflare wagon was pretty dead if im mafia. i don't understand you question at all. D1 you seemed genuine in your efforts to lynch df which seemed town to me. Yes if you were mafia you would have a hard time justifying a switch onto hf i guess. but if you are town and you believe df is mafia you wouldn't switch so it's irrelevant. Hapa said darth was scummy and voted him early D1 at a time i thought darth was scummy so i townread him for that. Around votes he acted weird so i'm unsure of that. I want you to justify why I only stay on Darth if im town and I switch to holyflare if im mafia. Hapa said that his read on Darth was a trap............... You are still townreading him for it.
Let me put this as simply as possible.
I thought you were genuine in your push on df so that made you town.
mafia oats can't justify a switch onto hf so wouldn't do it. town oats thinks df is mafia so wouldn't do it.Hence it is irrelevant to my read . I'm not going to rationalise some shit that I never even said.
other mafia players might switch onto hf to have a chance of removing a strong player from the game or maybe df is mafia. I'm not sure. But this doesn't apply to you.
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On November 22 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote: I'm not making shit up, that's what you said
right you stuck to your darth read.
it's more of a throwaway comment about the hf lynch being bad rather than some thought about "does mafia oats switch in this situation"
If that is the whole reason for this line of questioning you are a fucking imbecile.
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damdred why didn't you shoot
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On November 22 2017 06:52 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote: I'm not making shit up, that's what you said right you stuck to your darth read. it's more of a throwaway comment about the hf lynch being bad rather than some thought about "does mafia oats switch in this situation" If that is the whole reason for this line of questioning you are a fucking imbecile.
That last bit was too mean , I apologise
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