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why don't you want to lynch Xen?
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he just reminds me of how I played/still play
scummy looking newb AFK player, don't really think it's a good lynch
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On October 15 2017 01:20 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 15 2017 01:13 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:07 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 01:00 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:58 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 00:53 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:49 darthfoley wrote:On October 14 2017 21:35 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 07:19 darthfoley wrote:
I'll give attention to Conversion and Damerion in a bit, but I remember liking Conversion's post on first read through Can I get these some time? I thought you were relatively townie until I read your filter. You're basically just being a thread policeman and debate moderator. Which I don't like. It's actually pretty impressive at how many questions you've asked without actually saying anything yourself. + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2017 23:51 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 23:42 happykrogan wrote:On October 13 2017 23:40 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
? No need to be so defensive. I'm just explaining my thoughts, on my opinion, in my brain, as to why you can be scummy see how that works? I don't care if you post immediately. wasn't there a way to request flood control be turned off for new players in mafia? The "you're my coach now" was a question to ruxxar. I actually liked your post and see it as a tip. ah okay. sorry if I sounded like a dick.. been trying to rein that in latelyShow nested quote +On October 14 2017 09:11 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 08:10 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town" I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics. do you have a point that you want to make about gracks read on rux? Because right now it looks like you are arguing about it for the sake of arguing Grack isn’t making any real read besides on you, which was based on a meta read he wasn’t trying to convince me or ruxxar.. so idk I just find it interesting you ignored that fact and slammed him on something he wasn’t intending to imply Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:36 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. are you going to townread and PoE more?
are you around? Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:37 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 12:48 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote:On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation? Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex. Why do you think ruxxar (im assuming thats rex) is town? Likewise why is oatsmaster the only alternative compared to everyone else? Let me know what prompted you to come to these conclusions. +1 don't ninja vote without participating in the thread. doesn't help town at all Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:41 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 17:46 ruXxar wrote:
He calls krogans read on me the best read in the game, yet he makes no effort at all to push it any further.
After the strong salvo of encouragement for krogan, he just let it drop and appears to have lost all interest.
I'm parking my vote on HF as the most likely mafia for the moment.
In any case I hope it makes him wake up and show some interest in the game.
##vote Holyflare How I read the quote is that krogan made the best read of the game in terms of content, but it might not be good enough to sheep onto? idk also coolTLName is pulling a Rels D1? he hasn't posted yet Bolded quotes just seem way too passive and without direction. No conclusions. Soft ball questions that don't really probe anything There's also this On October 13 2017 20:43 Conversion wrote:
can’t really read df or grack, but that’s not really suprising since I couldn’t before anyways. null
oats is a tad bit aggressive for my taste but I think that’s just how he plays from what I’m observing. can any vets confirm? ruxxar sort confirmed in my last question
damerion slayed last game so I’m gonna put him in the wary pile as I do with all great players
HF being HF... less fiery though (burnt out maybe?) sorry I still don’t and won’t fully 100% townread you (although I say that and always end up townreading :l) I do like that we had same thoughts about lonelyclock man
FF being fluffy and vague but last time I pushed for his lynch he flipped town.. don’t like his play really
Pretty sure i've played one game with you... ever. First sentence seems like an unnecessary qualifier to back up a null read really early in the game. Maybe you shouldn't have reminded me to look back over your filter and this matters why? I've played one game with Grack too, does that mean I should confidently say that I can read every single person I've played one game with? I've played like 4 games on TL. If you want to read my filter because I reminded you and scumread me for it, then go ahead.. why would I discourage anyone to not read my filter? I'm keeping you at a hard null because you did nothing with your posts as you say I did myself, and I can barely read anyone correctly (re: 0% scum lynch rate unless I sheep someone/they admit to it) My point is that no one will have a "good read" on someone else after only playing one game with them. You claiming that you don't have a good read on me or grack makes it sound like it's some historical trend, when it was just one game-- and a super themed game at that. Your evasion of my legitimate questions and concerns are noted though. I've done much more with my posts than you have, but even if I hadn't, that's irrelevant to you not doing anything with your posts-- an idea you haven't denied I'm not evading your legitimate questions or concerns? You posted your thoughts, the thread can interpret it as they see fit. There's nothing else for you to note, you already think I'm scummy and you can move on with that and evaluate my behavior. Also on what measuring stick are you 'doing more' with your posts? 80% of your filter is fluff, except your one big post on an interaction/opinion piece on FF/Damdred... go reread your own filter and tell me what objectively you are doing more than I am You aren't defending yourself from my accusation, you're throwing it back at me with "no you!" OMGUS. I don't care about how the thread "interprets it as they see fit," I care about your explanations for you effectively playing mafia moderator without ever injecting original thoughts. You keep +1'ing or piggybacking on other people. Even this post is so passive and lacking direction. You aren't trying to determine my alignment. You're telling me to reread my filter. @ thread: i'm fine with a Conversion/Damdred/FF lynch pool for now. I mean.. if you want a read you're town. You're throwing the same accusations as you did when we played in CCCP. The jist of it is that Conversion just exists, doesn't do much, etc. The problem with you reading me is that.. this is how I play. and I flipped town in CCCP when you accused me of being mafia even until end game. I flipped town even when people accused me of being mafia because I was wishy washy/my entrance was terrible/I'm not pushing much. so enlighten me as to what's different about this game compared to that one? If I'm understanding your case correctly, it's that I'm passive, not really taking a side, not really pushing anything, I haven't even done that as town Bolded to show what I mean by being apologetic. Also because you played that before as town once does not mean you are guaranteed town for doing that again this game. Further more if you just play passive then that is kinda useless for town apart from just an extra person to jump on a wagon for votes. You prefer we leave you alone for a few days while you just ask questions and apologize when you anger someone? I mean, you literally jumped in a matter of 5 minutes from wanting to lynch Xen, to wanting to lynch me because someone made a post that seems good. So give me your thoughts on why that happened, and why I'm a better lynch than Xen. You're dark for those 5 minutes. I don't have to bother. If you want me to play more aggressively, I will. I just was choosing not to this game because I wanted to step away from the flaming idiot I was last game, but whatever
I have been the one defending xen saying that his play seems to nooby and awkward to be scum. Why you trying to throw fake shade at me?
On October 15 2017 01:25 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Conversion please give your current scum reads if you put a gun to my head and said, "name who you want to lynch in this exact moment that's not a newbie" it'd be between onegu or FF
Why are you not adding newbies? I never added that clause in my question?
On October 15 2017 01:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Conversion please give your current scum reads gimme yours you're clearly around stop sheeping other people and playing the newbie card
I don't think I'm only sheeping other people and I only played the newbie card once to make darthfoley (I think) to give me some of his insights as he was posting fluff before and he stopped posting fluff.
My scum reads are very apparent if you read the thread.
Why are you trying to accuse me of so many false things? Lies after lies. Back them up with some quotes.
PS: Flood control again. Mods said I just gotta deal with it 
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On October 15 2017 01:35 MrLonelyClock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:20 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 15 2017 01:13 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:07 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 01:00 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:58 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 00:53 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:49 darthfoley wrote:On October 14 2017 21:35 Conversion wrote:
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Can I get these some time? I thought you were relatively townie until I read your filter. You're basically just being a thread policeman and debate moderator. Which I don't like. It's actually pretty impressive at how many questions you've asked without actually saying anything yourself. + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2017 23:51 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 23:42 happykrogan wrote:On October 13 2017 23:40 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
? No need to be so defensive. I'm just explaining my thoughts, on my opinion, in my brain, as to why you can be scummy see how that works? I don't care if you post immediately. wasn't there a way to request flood control be turned off for new players in mafia? The "you're my coach now" was a question to ruxxar. I actually liked your post and see it as a tip. ah okay. sorry if I sounded like a dick.. been trying to rein that in latelyShow nested quote +On October 14 2017 09:11 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 08:10 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town" I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics. do you have a point that you want to make about gracks read on rux? Because right now it looks like you are arguing about it for the sake of arguing Grack isn’t making any real read besides on you, which was based on a meta read he wasn’t trying to convince me or ruxxar.. so idk I just find it interesting you ignored that fact and slammed him on something he wasn’t intending to imply Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:36 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. are you going to townread and PoE more?
are you around? Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:37 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 12:48 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote:On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation? Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex. Why do you think ruxxar (im assuming thats rex) is town? Likewise why is oatsmaster the only alternative compared to everyone else? Let me know what prompted you to come to these conclusions. +1 don't ninja vote without participating in the thread. doesn't help town at all Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:41 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 17:46 ruXxar wrote:
He calls krogans read on me the best read in the game, yet he makes no effort at all to push it any further.
After the strong salvo of encouragement for krogan, he just let it drop and appears to have lost all interest.
I'm parking my vote on HF as the most likely mafia for the moment.
In any case I hope it makes him wake up and show some interest in the game.
##vote Holyflare How I read the quote is that krogan made the best read of the game in terms of content, but it might not be good enough to sheep onto? idk also coolTLName is pulling a Rels D1? he hasn't posted yet Bolded quotes just seem way too passive and without direction. No conclusions. Soft ball questions that don't really probe anything There's also this On October 13 2017 20:43 Conversion wrote:
can’t really read df or grack, but that’s not really suprising since I couldn’t before anyways. null
oats is a tad bit aggressive for my taste but I think that’s just how he plays from what I’m observing. can any vets confirm? ruxxar sort confirmed in my last question
damerion slayed last game so I’m gonna put him in the wary pile as I do with all great players
HF being HF... less fiery though (burnt out maybe?) sorry I still don’t and won’t fully 100% townread you (although I say that and always end up townreading :l) I do like that we had same thoughts about lonelyclock man
FF being fluffy and vague but last time I pushed for his lynch he flipped town.. don’t like his play really
Pretty sure i've played one game with you... ever. First sentence seems like an unnecessary qualifier to back up a null read really early in the game. Maybe you shouldn't have reminded me to look back over your filter and this matters why? I've played one game with Grack too, does that mean I should confidently say that I can read every single person I've played one game with? I've played like 4 games on TL. If you want to read my filter because I reminded you and scumread me for it, then go ahead.. why would I discourage anyone to not read my filter? I'm keeping you at a hard null because you did nothing with your posts as you say I did myself, and I can barely read anyone correctly (re: 0% scum lynch rate unless I sheep someone/they admit to it) My point is that no one will have a "good read" on someone else after only playing one game with them. You claiming that you don't have a good read on me or grack makes it sound like it's some historical trend, when it was just one game-- and a super themed game at that. Your evasion of my legitimate questions and concerns are noted though. I've done much more with my posts than you have, but even if I hadn't, that's irrelevant to you not doing anything with your posts-- an idea you haven't denied I'm not evading your legitimate questions or concerns? You posted your thoughts, the thread can interpret it as they see fit. There's nothing else for you to note, you already think I'm scummy and you can move on with that and evaluate my behavior. Also on what measuring stick are you 'doing more' with your posts? 80% of your filter is fluff, except your one big post on an interaction/opinion piece on FF/Damdred... go reread your own filter and tell me what objectively you are doing more than I am You aren't defending yourself from my accusation, you're throwing it back at me with "no you!" OMGUS. I don't care about how the thread "interprets it as they see fit," I care about your explanations for you effectively playing mafia moderator without ever injecting original thoughts. You keep +1'ing or piggybacking on other people. Even this post is so passive and lacking direction. You aren't trying to determine my alignment. You're telling me to reread my filter. @ thread: i'm fine with a Conversion/Damdred/FF lynch pool for now. I mean.. if you want a read you're town. You're throwing the same accusations as you did when we played in CCCP. The jist of it is that Conversion just exists, doesn't do much, etc. The problem with you reading me is that.. this is how I play. and I flipped town in CCCP when you accused me of being mafia even until end game. I flipped town even when people accused me of being mafia because I was wishy washy/my entrance was terrible/I'm not pushing much. so enlighten me as to what's different about this game compared to that one? If I'm understanding your case correctly, it's that I'm passive, not really taking a side, not really pushing anything, I haven't even done that as town Bolded to show what I mean by being apologetic. Also because you played that before as town once does not mean you are guaranteed town for doing that again this game. Further more if you just play passive then that is kinda useless for town apart from just an extra person to jump on a wagon for votes. You prefer we leave you alone for a few days while you just ask questions and apologize when you anger someone? I mean, you literally jumped in a matter of 5 minutes from wanting to lynch Xen, to wanting to lynch me because someone made a post that seems good. So give me your thoughts on why that happened, and why I'm a better lynch than Xen. You're dark for those 5 minutes. I don't have to bother. If you want me to play more aggressively, I will. I just was choosing not to this game because I wanted to step away from the flaming idiot I was last game, but whatever I have been the one defending xen saying that his play seems to nooby and awkward to be scum. Why you trying to throw fake shade at me? Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:25 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Conversion please give your current scum reads if you put a gun to my head and said, "name who you want to lynch in this exact moment that's not a newbie" it'd be between onegu or FF Why are you not adding newbies? I never added that clause in my question? Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:30 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Conversion please give your current scum reads gimme yours you're clearly around stop sheeping other people and playing the newbie card I don't think I'm only sheeping other people and I only played the newbie card once to make darthfoley (I think) to give me some of his insights as he was posting fluff before and he stopped posting fluff. My scum reads are very apparent if you read the thread. Why are you trying to accuse me of so many false things? Lies after lies. Back them up with some quotes. PS: Flood control again. Mods said I just gotta deal with it
Because I don't want to lynch newbies? No one said you added that clause. Stop making bad arguments, you're testing my patience
On October 15 2017 00:28 MrLonelyClock wrote:
That or they have decided that it might draw too much suspicion. But like I said I don't see a mafia making the posts he has been making to draw so much attention for no reason. Really my biggest problem is that if he continues to play this way there is no way to pin him as a mafia/town and he will always be iffy.
That's the most passive "I want to lynch Xen but not really," so who's being passive now? Don't give me shit saying you were defending him lmao. You even had your vote on him... garbage. big minus town points to you
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oh wait that wasn't him.. you had your vote on ruxxar
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On October 15 2017 01:37 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:35 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 15 2017 01:20 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 15 2017 01:13 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:07 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 01:00 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:58 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 00:53 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:49 darthfoley wrote:[quote] I thought you were relatively townie until I read your filter. You're basically just being a thread policeman and debate moderator. Which I don't like. It's actually pretty impressive at how many questions you've asked without actually saying anything yourself. + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2017 23:51 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 23:42 happykrogan wrote:On October 13 2017 23:40 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
? No need to be so defensive. I'm just explaining my thoughts, on my opinion, in my brain, as to why you can be scummy see how that works? I don't care if you post immediately. wasn't there a way to request flood control be turned off for new players in mafia? The "you're my coach now" was a question to ruxxar. I actually liked your post and see it as a tip. ah okay. sorry if I sounded like a dick.. been trying to rein that in latelyShow nested quote +On October 14 2017 09:11 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 08:10 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town" I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics. do you have a point that you want to make about gracks read on rux? Because right now it looks like you are arguing about it for the sake of arguing Grack isn’t making any real read besides on you, which was based on a meta read he wasn’t trying to convince me or ruxxar.. so idk I just find it interesting you ignored that fact and slammed him on something he wasn’t intending to imply Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:36 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. are you going to townread and PoE more?
are you around? Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:37 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 12:48 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote:On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation? Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex. Why do you think ruxxar (im assuming thats rex) is town? Likewise why is oatsmaster the only alternative compared to everyone else? Let me know what prompted you to come to these conclusions. +1 don't ninja vote without participating in the thread. doesn't help town at all Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:41 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 17:46 ruXxar wrote:
He calls krogans read on me the best read in the game, yet he makes no effort at all to push it any further.
After the strong salvo of encouragement for krogan, he just let it drop and appears to have lost all interest.
I'm parking my vote on HF as the most likely mafia for the moment.
In any case I hope it makes him wake up and show some interest in the game.
##vote Holyflare How I read the quote is that krogan made the best read of the game in terms of content, but it might not be good enough to sheep onto? idk also coolTLName is pulling a Rels D1? he hasn't posted yet Bolded quotes just seem way too passive and without direction. No conclusions. Soft ball questions that don't really probe anything There's also this [quote] Pretty sure i've played one game with you... ever. First sentence seems like an unnecessary qualifier to back up a null read really early in the game. Maybe you shouldn't have reminded me to look back over your filter and this matters why? I've played one game with Grack too, does that mean I should confidently say that I can read every single person I've played one game with? I've played like 4 games on TL. If you want to read my filter because I reminded you and scumread me for it, then go ahead.. why would I discourage anyone to not read my filter? I'm keeping you at a hard null because you did nothing with your posts as you say I did myself, and I can barely read anyone correctly (re: 0% scum lynch rate unless I sheep someone/they admit to it) My point is that no one will have a "good read" on someone else after only playing one game with them. You claiming that you don't have a good read on me or grack makes it sound like it's some historical trend, when it was just one game-- and a super themed game at that. Your evasion of my legitimate questions and concerns are noted though. I've done much more with my posts than you have, but even if I hadn't, that's irrelevant to you not doing anything with your posts-- an idea you haven't denied I'm not evading your legitimate questions or concerns? You posted your thoughts, the thread can interpret it as they see fit. There's nothing else for you to note, you already think I'm scummy and you can move on with that and evaluate my behavior. Also on what measuring stick are you 'doing more' with your posts? 80% of your filter is fluff, except your one big post on an interaction/opinion piece on FF/Damdred... go reread your own filter and tell me what objectively you are doing more than I am You aren't defending yourself from my accusation, you're throwing it back at me with "no you!" OMGUS. I don't care about how the thread "interprets it as they see fit," I care about your explanations for you effectively playing mafia moderator without ever injecting original thoughts. You keep +1'ing or piggybacking on other people. Even this post is so passive and lacking direction. You aren't trying to determine my alignment. You're telling me to reread my filter. @ thread: i'm fine with a Conversion/Damdred/FF lynch pool for now. I mean.. if you want a read you're town. You're throwing the same accusations as you did when we played in CCCP. The jist of it is that Conversion just exists, doesn't do much, etc. The problem with you reading me is that.. this is how I play. and I flipped town in CCCP when you accused me of being mafia even until end game. I flipped town even when people accused me of being mafia because I was wishy washy/my entrance was terrible/I'm not pushing much. so enlighten me as to what's different about this game compared to that one? If I'm understanding your case correctly, it's that I'm passive, not really taking a side, not really pushing anything, I haven't even done that as town Bolded to show what I mean by being apologetic. Also because you played that before as town once does not mean you are guaranteed town for doing that again this game. Further more if you just play passive then that is kinda useless for town apart from just an extra person to jump on a wagon for votes. You prefer we leave you alone for a few days while you just ask questions and apologize when you anger someone? I mean, you literally jumped in a matter of 5 minutes from wanting to lynch Xen, to wanting to lynch me because someone made a post that seems good. So give me your thoughts on why that happened, and why I'm a better lynch than Xen. You're dark for those 5 minutes. I don't have to bother. If you want me to play more aggressively, I will. I just was choosing not to this game because I wanted to step away from the flaming idiot I was last game, but whatever I have been the one defending xen saying that his play seems to nooby and awkward to be scum. Why you trying to throw fake shade at me? On October 15 2017 01:25 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Conversion please give your current scum reads if you put a gun to my head and said, "name who you want to lynch in this exact moment that's not a newbie" it'd be between onegu or FF Why are you not adding newbies? I never added that clause in my question? On October 15 2017 01:30 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Conversion please give your current scum reads gimme yours you're clearly around stop sheeping other people and playing the newbie card I don't think I'm only sheeping other people and I only played the newbie card once to make darthfoley (I think) to give me some of his insights as he was posting fluff before and he stopped posting fluff. My scum reads are very apparent if you read the thread. Why are you trying to accuse me of so many false things? Lies after lies. Back them up with some quotes. PS: Flood control again. Mods said I just gotta deal with it Because I don't want to lynch newbies? No one said you added that clause. Stop making bad arguments, you're testing my patience Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 00:28 MrLonelyClock wrote:
That or they have decided that it might draw too much suspicion. But like I said I don't see a mafia making the posts he has been making to draw so much attention for no reason. Really my biggest problem is that if he continues to play this way there is no way to pin him as a mafia/town and he will always be iffy. That's the most passive "I want to lynch Xen but not really," so who's being passive now? Don't give me shit saying you were defending him lmao. You even had your vote on him... garbage. big minus town points to you
Are you misreading my name for someone else? Please link to my vote on him in vote thread. Or don't since it doesn't exist...Thats what I thought
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nevertheless, point still stands on you "defending" xen. you weren't really defending anyone, you just asked a soft question to HF on why he's not trying to hammer xen for lynch, and you said you were skeptical of the "pushes" on Xen... there was never really a big number of "pushes" on him
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I was the one on xennon and my read already got weaker as others argumented against it. Then darthfoley was convincing and I decided to switch.
It's that easy.
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On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation?
On October 15 2017 00:08 MrLonelyClock wrote:
I am also skeptical about these pushes on xenonn. I'm not sure how to explain it but it just seems too obvious to lynch him. Then again I don't know why any town would want to make themselves a lynch target. Nevertheless I feel like its more of a nooby town than malicious scum. However the kinda jump onto him has piqued my interest.
HF if xenonn is your biggest scum read why not vote? We are not far away from deadline.
On October 15 2017 00:28 MrLonelyClock wrote:
That or they have decided that it might draw too much suspicion. But like I said I don't see a mafia making the posts he has been making to draw so much attention for no reason. Really my biggest problem is that if he continues to play this way there is no way to pin him as a mafia/town and he will always be iffy.
big defense there buddy. don't overplay what you're doing, it's not much
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On October 15 2017 01:42 happykrogan wrote:
I was the one on xennon and my read already got weaker as others argumented against it. Then darthfoley was convincing and I decided to switch.
It's that easy.
yeah I thought it was clock for some reason. sorry for bunching you two up
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On October 15 2017 01:18 MrLonelyClock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2017 01:13 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 01:07 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 01:00 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:58 darthfoley wrote:On October 15 2017 00:53 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:49 darthfoley wrote:On October 14 2017 21:35 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 07:19 darthfoley wrote:
I'll give attention to Conversion and Damerion in a bit, but I remember liking Conversion's post on first read through Can I get these some time? I thought you were relatively townie until I read your filter. You're basically just being a thread policeman and debate moderator. Which I don't like. It's actually pretty impressive at how many questions you've asked without actually saying anything yourself. + Show Spoiler +On October 13 2017 23:51 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2017 23:42 happykrogan wrote:On October 13 2017 23:40 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 23:38 happykrogan wrote:
So you're my coach now?
II think the questions you asked conversion about conversion about damerion and holyflare about lonelyclock just have pretty obvious answers and could be just there for the reason that the people see that you ask questions.
flood control appeared and I have to wait...
I would have posted this immedieatly otherwise
? No need to be so defensive. I'm just explaining my thoughts, on my opinion, in my brain, as to why you can be scummy see how that works? I don't care if you post immediately. wasn't there a way to request flood control be turned off for new players in mafia? The "you're my coach now" was a question to ruxxar. I actually liked your post and see it as a tip. ah okay. sorry if I sounded like a dick.. been trying to rein that in latelyShow nested quote +On October 14 2017 09:11 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 14 2017 08:10 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 08:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
He didnt say "mafia wont do that", he specifically said "rux will only do that as town" I mean.. I don’t think he specifically SAID those exact words, but semantics. do you have a point that you want to make about gracks read on rux? Because right now it looks like you are arguing about it for the sake of arguing Grack isn’t making any real read besides on you, which was based on a meta read he wasn’t trying to convince me or ruxxar.. so idk I just find it interesting you ignored that fact and slammed him on something he wasn’t intending to imply Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:36 Conversion wrote:On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote:
Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again.
Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission.
Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles.
My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point.
The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve.
I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. are you going to townread and PoE more?
are you around? Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:37 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 12:48 MrLonelyClock wrote:On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote:On October 14 2017 11:06 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Hey xennon I see you voted for oatsmaster. Any reason? You haven't posted anything for a while and nothing worthwhile. Why the vote without explanation? Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex. Why do you think ruxxar (im assuming thats rex) is town? Likewise why is oatsmaster the only alternative compared to everyone else? Let me know what prompted you to come to these conclusions. +1 don't ninja vote without participating in the thread. doesn't help town at all Show nested quote +On October 14 2017 21:41 Conversion wrote:On October 14 2017 17:46 ruXxar wrote:
He calls krogans read on me the best read in the game, yet he makes no effort at all to push it any further.
After the strong salvo of encouragement for krogan, he just let it drop and appears to have lost all interest.
I'm parking my vote on HF as the most likely mafia for the moment.
In any case I hope it makes him wake up and show some interest in the game.
##vote Holyflare How I read the quote is that krogan made the best read of the game in terms of content, but it might not be good enough to sheep onto? idk also coolTLName is pulling a Rels D1? he hasn't posted yet Bolded quotes just seem way too passive and without direction. No conclusions. Soft ball questions that don't really probe anything There's also this On October 13 2017 20:43 Conversion wrote:
can’t really read df or grack, but that’s not really suprising since I couldn’t before anyways. null
oats is a tad bit aggressive for my taste but I think that’s just how he plays from what I’m observing. can any vets confirm? ruxxar sort confirmed in my last question
damerion slayed last game so I’m gonna put him in the wary pile as I do with all great players
HF being HF... less fiery though (burnt out maybe?) sorry I still don’t and won’t fully 100% townread you (although I say that and always end up townreading :l) I do like that we had same thoughts about lonelyclock man
FF being fluffy and vague but last time I pushed for his lynch he flipped town.. don’t like his play really
Pretty sure i've played one game with you... ever. First sentence seems like an unnecessary qualifier to back up a null read really early in the game. Maybe you shouldn't have reminded me to look back over your filter and this matters why? I've played one game with Grack too, does that mean I should confidently say that I can read every single person I've played one game with? I've played like 4 games on TL. If you want to read my filter because I reminded you and scumread me for it, then go ahead.. why would I discourage anyone to not read my filter? I'm keeping you at a hard null because you did nothing with your posts as you say I did myself, and I can barely read anyone correctly (re: 0% scum lynch rate unless I sheep someone/they admit to it) My point is that no one will have a "good read" on someone else after only playing one game with them. You claiming that you don't have a good read on me or grack makes it sound like it's some historical trend, when it was just one game-- and a super themed game at that. Your evasion of my legitimate questions and concerns are noted though. I've done much more with my posts than you have, but even if I hadn't, that's irrelevant to you not doing anything with your posts-- an idea you haven't denied I'm not evading your legitimate questions or concerns? You posted your thoughts, the thread can interpret it as they see fit. There's nothing else for you to note, you already think I'm scummy and you can move on with that and evaluate my behavior. Also on what measuring stick are you 'doing more' with your posts? 80% of your filter is fluff, except your one big post on an interaction/opinion piece on FF/Damdred... go reread your own filter and tell me what objectively you are doing more than I am You aren't defending yourself from my accusation, you're throwing it back at me with "no you!" OMGUS. I don't care about how the thread "interprets it as they see fit," I care about your explanations for you effectively playing mafia moderator without ever injecting original thoughts. You keep +1'ing or piggybacking on other people. Even this post is so passive and lacking direction. You aren't trying to determine my alignment. You're telling me to reread my filter. @ thread: i'm fine with a Conversion/Damdred/FF lynch pool for now. I mean.. if you want a read you're town. You're throwing the same accusations as you did when we played in CCCP. The jist of it is that Conversion just exists, doesn't do much, etc. The problem with you reading me is that.. this is how I play. and I flipped town in CCCP when you accused me of being mafia even until end game. I flipped town even when people accused me of being mafia because I was wishy washy/my entrance was terrible/I'm not pushing much. so enlighten me as to what's different about this game compared to that one? If I'm understanding your case correctly, it's that I'm passive, not really taking a side, not really pushing anything, I haven't even done that as town Bolded to show what I mean by being apologetic. Also because you played that before as town once does not mean you are guaranteed town for doing that again this game. Further more if you just play passive then that is kinda useless for town apart from just an extra person to jump on a wagon for votes. You prefer we leave you alone for a few days while you just ask questions and apologize when you anger someone?
so what makes me more scummy than the 6-7 people making one post and AFKing?
I'd actually love to hear your thoughts on this, because your argument boils down to 1) he makes posts 2) his posts are passive 3) I don't like his posts => scum
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You seem less towny every minute conversion. Instead of re-tracking onto scum hunting you seem like you just want me to create another argument so that you can attempt to deflate it. I have a point I will be making between your interactions with ruxxar later (gotta grab some groceries first) but I think if you were confident that the points against you were invalid that the rest of town would realize.
To me it seems like you are grasping onto straws.
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On October 15 2017 01:55 MrLonelyClock wrote:
You seem less towny every minute conversion. Instead of re-tracking onto scum hunting you seem like you just want me to create another argument so that you can attempt to deflate it. I have a point I will be making between your interactions with ruxxar later (gotta grab some groceries first) but I think if you were confident that the points against you were invalid that the rest of town would realize.
To me it seems like you are grasping onto straws.
I mean you refuse to read into anyone else besides ruxxar, you hop onto me as scum, you act confused at a list post by HF, and now you're telling me by posting and defending myself I look less towny
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J'm just going to AFK
bye
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Can you provide also why you think FF is your biggest scum read?
I'm assuming Onegu for 1 post than AFK/policy.
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On October 15 2017 01:56 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Can you provide also why you think FF is your biggest scum read?
I'm assuming Onegu for 1 post than AFK/policy.
so you can tell me I'm scummy for scum reading FF for shit reasons?
no thanks
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we have one person telling me I'm scum for not defending myself, and we have another person saying I'm scum for defending myself
welcome to the circus!!
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On October 15 2017 01:56 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Can you provide also why you think FF is your biggest scum read?
I'm assuming Onegu for 1 post than AFK/policy.
FF is not my biggest scum read, Onegu is
I had him and DF at a null. DF actually tried to push me as scum, FF faded into oblivion
ergo, he is no longer a null read and he is now scummy
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this is a very boring conversation you two are having, you should both ignore each other for a while and see how that pans out
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Onegu did the exact same thing afking last game and was town, Conversion, it's just a 50/50 whether he's mafia so to have him as your biggest scum read is somewhat of a giant cop out when there's a plethora of people posting.
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On October 15 2017 02:01 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu did the exact same thing afking last game and was town, Conversion, it's just a 50/50 whether he's mafia so to have him as your biggest scum read is somewhat of a giant cop out when there's a plethora of people posting.
TBH I meant that as a tongue in cheek bc clock newb thinks meta shouldn't matter
he's obviously not my actual top scum read.
on another matter
On October 15 2017 01:55 MrLonelyClock wrote:
You seem less towny every minute conversion. Instead of re-tracking onto scum hunting you seem like you just want me to create another argument so that you can attempt to deflate it. I have a point I will be making between your interactions with ruxxar later (gotta grab some groceries first) but I think if you were confident that the points against you were invalid that the rest of town would realize.
To me it seems like you are grasping onto straws.
I'm not scum hunting because you, krogan, and DF for some reason think that me playing the way I have been for the past 3 games => scum
yet you're choosing to ignore people blatantly being passive to avoid a shitshow.
what's your thoughts on oats? grack? what's your though on Damerion's post on Grack vs Oats? What's your thought on HF thinking Damerion is scum for his post on Grack vs Oats?
you also completely ignore the fact that Damdred ignored your question, and you never followed up with it. what's up with that?
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