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On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird. 1/20 | ||
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On August 25 2017 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript are you town? I'm the towniest of all. Also, I'm pretty sure that Koshi is mafia. His post towards you and asking about Damdred's townread is pretty out of place. As Town, you love to lynch stupid; it's like your kryptonite. But as mafia you have much less of a hardon for stupid from what I've seen and just push 85% bullshit. Koshi not getting this after the last two games is pretty odd; especially since Tina brought it up in generic and Koshi was bussing her at various points. | ||
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On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote: If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post. geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town. I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read. I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face. This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HrggHWB.png) 3/20 | ||
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On August 25 2017 08:42 Holyflare wrote: that post says entirely nothing geript You don't find it interesting that Koshi is calling me scum both for noticing his posting and for not noticing his posting? That's not in any way weird about it? IDK if I explained it well the first time. Like let me explain it this way. Koshi is scumreading me for, at 6:14, posting this: On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird. 1/20 I am posting about TW's post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else That post is here on page 10 at 5:47. Koshi's first relevant post on the subject is: On August 25 2017 05:49 Koshi wrote: That is what I am implying with that post. Let's do something else. rayn still wants you to explain why you wrote that line though. But he is devolving the initial situation into something else and I don't like it anymore. That post is here at 5:49. Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for something I couldn't even have read if I'm following the thread in any kind of reasonable way. Like Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for how he reads Rayn in when the whole Skynx situation doesn't even really resolve until my first post is already made. Like that's a really fucking weird argument to be making. It's strikes a bunch on the idea of, "You'll scumread me for the right reasons." Like you should be scumreading me at point A for what I do at point B when point B follows point A. | ||
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IDK, maybe I'm just anxious about other things currently. Like I have a bad feeling about this game. Part of it is Koshi, but of it is idk. | ||
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On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: Like... I dislike the fact geript comes in townreads TW lazy as fuck. I don't care if he does it in other games, the fact he does it in this game is wrong. Especially the way he did it. 2. Koshi is misrepresenting the whole argument; it's not about Skynx being "stupid" it's about how Rayn pushes random stupid NAI shit as town and eats that shit up + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2017 06:24 Koshi wrote: if he is town. Dnu why I am mafia for disagreeing with rayn lynching "stupid". Dnu why Skynx is "stupid" and not just mafia. Dnu why you are not discussing Skynx. 3. Koshi Keeps on moving the target of what I should be talking about to call me scum + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2017 06:24 Koshi wrote: Dnu why you are not discussing Skynx. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. 4. Koshi is misrepresenting my scum play as "lazy" in order to call me scum+ Show Spoiler + On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town. 5. Koshi is arguing town!me would both post about a vet and not post about a vet + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read. 6. Koshi is being super lazy with his reading of the thread and is taking things out of context of the thread + Show Spoiler + See post on timings | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense. I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him. | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Was that before or after Tublewood said "that's how geript reads me"? I don't know. I think after, but tbh imo not sure I posted it. | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually no you didn't. Answer this again please, since there is no way this is a "good observation", those are the only two options. So last game when I was scum, I filtered a bit of TW's other games to look for things that look different but really aren't. I noticed as Town he just kinda post what he thinks. It's a bit feelsy. But when the guy is already kinda being pushed, if you say a thing it kinda becomes thread sentiment and especially so when what you say already has the ring of truth/accuracy to it. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i understand this. What i don't understand is why you think the specific post Tumblewood made makes you think he is town, because based on how you view him -- remember the " His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything" -- you shouldn't be able to make a judgement call on him. Because I found a better way to meta him. Like, you're quoting me from a game where I'm trying to remember old meta and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering the right person. Like before generic, my last game was what, a year before maybe more? Like there's no reason to use something old that ime not even sure is correct when I have something up to date and has no risk of conflating players. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, can you explain this meta read then, since i can't find it. You're just saying "he says what he thinks" which is the same sentence than your previous meta was so how should i be differentiate this new metaing from you from the old one? Remember Generic 3? Remember Ruxxar who had a complete inability to not vomit each and every single little thought he had in the thread? It's kinda like that but way more subdued. It's like he has a thought, gives no shit about how it makes him look and just posts it. On sec let me get on comp to find an example. | ||
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On July 14 2017 04:24 Tumblewood wrote: you're not getting anything more descriptive because that's as far as it goes It's like this post. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh oh oh.... Let's do this!! geript did you read any of his scumgames?  TBH, I don't remember. I think maybe 1-2. I'm pretty sure it was mostly town. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said. So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia. So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood. ??? That post isn't even in this game... I don't get your question rayn | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:27 Holyflare wrote: Oats looks good. Artanis dropped off face of earth. Rayn looks way better this game than last. Not sure I agree with his artanis/skynx conclusions though. Bit far fetched. Vivax largely irrelevant? Scary. Geript needs to scum hunt instead of answering questions. Damdred gives me warm fuzzy feelings of old damdred reads Tw just poeing not read him. Will call him scum all game and arbitrarily call him town at another. Ruxxar is scarily quiet. Backwards logic on skynx and afk. He's voting koshbag though so for now it's ok. Anyone else? No, geript needs some ativan and maybe celexa | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: this one: this is much closer to your "new" meta than what you said. why did you decide to quote a completely irrelevant post instead? It's not a completely irrelevant post; it's a post I liked better. It's a post that stuck in my mind because it was more than just #metaread. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: really? a post that says "i didn't wanna do anything just because"?? I am not sure if i believe this. Alright, were not getting anywhere further here, what's your read on ruxxar and Skynx? I don't have one. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: could you form any? I don't know. I'm kinda just playing the game as a distraction for myself right now. | ||
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On August 26 2017 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can you give a read on them please? Anything, if you wanna stand on "i can't form a read on them atm" then say so. It's a bit closer to "I'm not in good headspace right now and am incapable." But it's something to do I guess. Ruxxar feels a little chipper; it makes me want to vomit. Activity wise he looks like Town. He seems kinda on track which is different. I don't mean "on the right track" but in Generic 3 he was all over the place and just kinda followed whatever the hot topic is at the time. Whereas here he seems a bit singular or focused. For some reason I keep coming back to this post: On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote: HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia". But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. Idk why. I don't like it. | ||
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On August 26 2017 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it. Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way. Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia. I'm feeling a little better today, but still not great so I'm going to answer this. I am depressed. I've only had job offers from shit ends places. I haven't had a job for 4 months now and had to sell of a major part of my EDh deck. Shipping the mtg cards cost the last cash I had and I'm literally broke. Like I. Crying and don't want to get out of bed right now just writing this. You are taking things for being mafia which have no relation to the game. I'm going to grab a bite and I'll be back. | ||
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Oats and Ruxxar are obviously town; maybe LS too. I'm a bit hesitant to read him for puppy; but he feels a bit lost/directionless which I don't remember being aspects of his puppy!scum games. Rayn is town. To explain a bit on why Rayn's push on Skynx was lynching for bad. It's mostly off of this: On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote: That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo It's pretty rare when mafia does something as obtuse as agreeing to an opponent's argument and only slightly differentiating part of their side. It's even worse than acceding to being wrong about something. Like you don't put bullets in your opponent's gun without reason and at that point in the game there's no reason whatsoever. | ||
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