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On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing.
Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out....
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On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought.
Not really, no.
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I mean that's not really how mafia (players) works. Sure, you can come up with reasons why he lied to me too as town if you want to.
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On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this.
I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something.
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On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous.
See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process.
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
It is very simple.
Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y.
No way.
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What Koshi said there was never ever never in a million years what Skynx was "trying to say".
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That was always my point, maybe i didn't explain it clearly enough.
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There are many problematic things in what geript says, or rather what he doesn't say.
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Yeah that's something i knew already. I was jsut thinking if it makes Koshi mafia that after calling HF "not annoying enough" every time he posts towards HF he feels super annoyed. 
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I think i stil lwant to lynch Skynx. i kind of agree on what you say Artanis, but meh.. If we do not lynch Skynx i think regardless of his affiliation we will lose the game because if the dude is not mafia he lacks every single bit of any reading comprehension. It's like complete opposite from last game for example where he was actually able to provide coherent thoughts that were in line with each other. It's like someone took half of his brain out this game.
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Like Vivax just asked him to explain a simple thing. He quotes a post that has nothing to do what Vivax asks.
What gives?
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I like the Koshi's Calix banana case so here is what Skynx does:
Vivax: Skynx can you tell me why did you put a banana into your bag? I saw you doing it.
Skynx: Here is a picture of me eating an apple. What do you say now, Vivax, huh?
Every single time he defends himself he does this.
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On August 26 2017 20:52 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think i stil lwant to lynch Skynx. i kind of agree on what you say Artanis, but meh.. If we do not lynch Skynx i think regardless of his affiliation we will lose the game because if the dude is not mafia he lacks every single bit of any reading comprehension. It's like complete opposite from last game for example where he was actually able to provide coherent thoughts that were in line with each other. It's like someone took half of his brain out this game. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here. Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game. Then stop making stupid cases. ??????
See once again you can't understand simple things and jsut invent your own narratives that are loosely connected to some words, without any coherent thought behind them. I will stop talking to you for the rest of the game.
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On August 26 2017 20:53 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Vivax just asked him to explain a simple thing. He quotes a post that has nothing to do what Vivax asks.
What gives? He wants me to admit something which does not exist. That might make sense in your world i guess.
This is completely untrue.
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Like there are LITERALLY posts where YOU LITERALLY DID THAT.
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I am going to take a break since i unfortunately feel like this game is 8v4 right now. 
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If Skynx is somehow town then geript will always be mafia. Also Koshi will always be town then. I heavily disagree with people who say geript and Koshi can be mafia together.
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On August 26 2017 20:04 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".
But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around. ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing. Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out.... It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought. Not really, no. I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this. I don't know if ruxxar and Koshi can see themselves doing that, maybe they can see Skynx doing that. If you can see yourself doing that i think that makes you not very good mafia player then. Especially how fast paced our game is making good judgement calls on the fly is a necessity (i mean for being good), and after all -- if you are not sure 1 hr into the game there is no reason to post before you have thought out what you say as town , when someone JUST debunked your theory about something. Skynx literally just threw out a random thought there. I do that all the time. The fact that you're putting so much stock into this is ridiculous. See even you can't see this for whatever reason. I don't care if his conclusion was ridiculous. That doesn't necessarily make him scummy. The point is how he explains the "why did you do this" doesn't line up with any sort of townie thought process. On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
It is very simple. Do stuff and say your conclusion is X, when someone asks you to explain take someone else's comment that looks better and say you actually did Y. No way. He just intentionally leaves out the second part of my post here "TW is not a +1 imo". Which completely invalidates the safe mafia play Koshi implies.
See here is another thing. At the time i intentionally asked Skynx who HE THINKS was the first one (and who is +1'ing).
On August 25 2017 05:44 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:41 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:37 Skynx wrote:
What i was thinking posting that is I wouldn't make that comment if i was mafia with Koshi, thats literally it. It doesn't matter, could you please answer me who came to the conclusion first? You can find your answer by reading the thread. I am unsure what you think, what i think doesn't matter if i am trying to get a read on you. You know aswell as i do that Vivax posted it first. I appreciate getting ganged up on guys keep it coming.
You're lying again. At the time Skynx thought Vivax was the one first to point out this. Then TW and LS.
Now he is saying he didn't actually think so after all. If he thought TW and LS were +1'ing Vivax, then the Koshi quote and his 180 after that makes no sense at all. And he DID think so at the time. Now he is saying something else, again...
Classic mafia play, change your story as you see it bet fit.
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On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum. (that shitty bastard game, koshi town) yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general ##Unvote On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time. If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded. In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group. brb reading thread. PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +so good. 72 hours mafia. Town. I don't think that's how you should hunt scum. And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this. What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example? I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho. What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum. Elaborate on this conclusion please. If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game. If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be? Mind meld? The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling. You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you. That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo
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On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say
whaaaaat?
That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point. It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.
Like i cannot see how anyone can actually think (1) and (2) are true at the same time.
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