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The fact that neither Rayn or HF got shot tonight confirms that there is guaranteed scum between them.
We 100% hit scum if we lynch into Rayn/HF.
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On August 28 2017 14:16 ruXxar wrote:
The fact that neither Rayn or HF got shot tonight confirms that there is guaranteed scum between them.
We 100% hit scum if we lynch into Rayn/HF.
Or Mafia went for a medic dodge shot most likely.
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On August 28 2017 14:20 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 14:16 ruXxar wrote:
The fact that neither Rayn or HF got shot tonight confirms that there is guaranteed scum between them.
We 100% hit scum if we lynch into Rayn/HF. Or Mafia went for a medic dodge shot most likely.
Nope.
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If they were gonna dodge they would have shot HF, while the "claimed" parity cop Rayn would've been saved by jailer.
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Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC.
LS would have done it.
Oats would have done it.
Ruxxar knows he is not JK.
Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched).
Artanis would have claimed EoD.
HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game).
Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game).
Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim.
So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game. 
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On August 28 2017 13:27 ruXxar wrote:
So no. "The whole thread" didn't have the same reads as TW.
3 people is hardly a significant amount of people.
He wouldve been in the MAJORITY to call koshi town. Like 8 out 12 people did at that point of time.
What the fuck dude.
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Rays fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons:
1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim.
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.
2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save.
This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want.
3) Guaranteed KP for mafia.
With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum.
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On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.
Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.
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On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote:
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.
It is good you can't even keep ypur story straight for a sentence.
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On August 28 2017 13:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster:
Reads Tumblewood mafia for the same post geript reads Tumblewood town for. Reads geript town because geript has a townread on Tumblewood (for a scummy post)??!?!?!? This doesn't make any sense.
What doesnt make sense? People can be wrong and normally are wrong in mafia. It doesnt make them scum.
Lightningstrike is mafia for: + Show Spoiler +On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. none of this actually makes anyone mafia.
thats just your opinion man.
Scumreads Vivax because Vivax trusts townie seal (on a dude he thinks is town). That's what mafia does? Calls someone town for that? Well, Oats has now solved the game. GG! Oh wait... Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
If damdred is mafia, he has ulterior motives for town reading you so we cant trust him. You should know this.
This is an interesting post. geript is super town for townreading Tumblewood for garbage reasons but we can't tell Damdred's alignment when (if) he townreads LS at this point of the game. Very likely a mafia post.
yes you see, geript is town for making a bad townread.
Damdred makes some kinda meta read on LS(NAI) and LS is asking people to trust damdred off nothing other than the fact that LS thinks he is town for reading him correctly.
So its totally not the same thing.
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia.
The rest is ????
dunno what you are trying to say with that.
Very good, now he has even more scumreads than enough. Add Artanis as a scumread too.
Again, dunno where you are going with this
Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.
The ones that Vivax literally posted in the post that I am talking about. Dont be lazy if you want to dig this deep for a useless case.
Oats never ever wants to convince anybody to vote for Tumblewood, yet he asks everyone else to convince people when someone calls someone else mafia. That is very likely mafia attitude. Seriously, if you don't believe me on this go read his filter.
I was clearly perfectly happy with Koshi dying.
On August 27 2017 03:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux. So its wasted. But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately. Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia... He hasnt posted anything useful the entire game. Also like ruxxar, no one thinks he really needs to die day 1 so Im not gonna push him NOW. You see, the problem is that its 36 minutes to the lynch, so finding mafia doesnt really help when you cant actually get enough people to lynch them.
This is what i was talking about earlier. "We can only lynch Koshi because no time left".
That's an attitude mafia people have.
Again, quite happy with koshi lynch
Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 04:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
best mislynch at least.
TW/LS/VIivax Artanis scumread has magically disappeared.
You do notice that the game has only 3 mafia right?
Show nested quote +On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier. Why so scummy. AND WHAT THE FUCK? The dude jsut came into the same conclusion than you did and you call him scum now when you alread yhave a scumlist of three people? Why arent these two people fucking scumreading each other?I would always be scumreading someone who says this kinda shit to me.
Oats just jumps from one place to another place. Very likely mafia.
Just saying something doesnt make it true you know.
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On August 28 2017 13:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also this interesting thing.
Oatsmaster has called literally every single player in the game mafia, except for Ruxxar's scumreads, and Ruxxar doesn't have any problem with it.
not true but try harder rayn.
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On August 28 2017 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC. LS would have done it. Oats would have done it. Ruxxar knows he is not JK. Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched). Artanis would have claimed EoD. HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game). Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game). Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim. So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game.
Knowing the setup of the game makes it super favorable for scum to soft claim roles to bait out CCs.
You're smart enough to know this Rayn.
You're getting desperate now that I caught you with your pants down. I understand that.
You better hurry up and lynch me before I ruin your scum game.
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On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.
Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted.
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On August 28 2017 14:59 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC. LS would have done it. Oats would have done it. Ruxxar knows he is not JK. Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched). Artanis would have claimed EoD. HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game). Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game). Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim. So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game. Knowing the setup of the game makes it super favorable for scum to soft claim roles to bait out CCs. You're smart enough to know this Rayn. You're getting desperate now that I caught you with your pants down. I understand that. You better hurry up and lynch me before I ruin your scum game.
Pretty sure none of rayn's claims were "soft"
What is your objective here rux?
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On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 14:59 ruXxar wrote:On August 28 2017 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC. LS would have done it. Oats would have done it. Ruxxar knows he is not JK. Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched). Artanis would have claimed EoD. HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game). Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game). Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim. So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game. Knowing the setup of the game makes it super favorable for scum to soft claim roles to bait out CCs. You're smart enough to know this Rayn. You're getting desperate now that I caught you with your pants down. I understand that. You better hurry up and lynch me before I ruin your scum game. Pretty sure none of rayn's claims were "soft" What is your objective here rux?
To lynch scum.
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On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him. This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT , it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.
What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread? Instead we get: Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS. Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial". Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that. When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.
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On August 28 2017 15:01 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 14:59 ruXxar wrote:On August 28 2017 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC. LS would have done it. Oats would have done it. Ruxxar knows he is not JK. Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched). Artanis would have claimed EoD. HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game). Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game). Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim. So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game. Knowing the setup of the game makes it super favorable for scum to soft claim roles to bait out CCs. You're smart enough to know this Rayn. You're getting desperate now that I caught you with your pants down. I understand that. You better hurry up and lynch me before I ruin your scum game. Pretty sure none of rayn's claims were "soft" What is your objective here rux? To lynch scum.
Well no, the part where you are saying stupid shit to rayn and talking about how his claim is oh so scummy.
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On August 28 2017 15:05 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 15:01 ruXxar wrote:On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 14:59 ruXxar wrote:On August 28 2017 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC. LS would have done it. Oats would have done it. Ruxxar knows he is not JK. Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched). Artanis would have claimed EoD. HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game). Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game). Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim. So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game. Knowing the setup of the game makes it super favorable for scum to soft claim roles to bait out CCs. You're smart enough to know this Rayn. You're getting desperate now that I caught you with your pants down. I understand that. You better hurry up and lynch me before I ruin your scum game. Pretty sure none of rayn's claims were "soft" What is your objective here rux? To lynch scum. Well no, the part where you are saying stupid shit to rayn and talking about how his claim is oh so scummy.
Also, do you agree that if Rayn is the real JK he will die tonight?
Or do you think mafia will do something different? Why would they not kill the JK?
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On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least. No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit. Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here. Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted.
No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant".
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On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +
Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.
Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).
100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).
Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia.
Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question:
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi
But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time?
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