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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:23 GMT
#1641
On August 28 2017 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Are you for real? I've posted about 100 reasons?

His skynx read.

His lack of doing anything and perpetual afk.

When he does appear it's to do not much.

Geript is up for lynch with koshi (who he doesn't scum read despite there being multiple cases in the thread about it) and he joins the wagon for an arbitrary reason (that was already talked about AT LENGTH). His reads just completely switch to koshi and geript (when does he even mention geript ever???)

Then when he's called out by me on his koshi vote choices post lynch he says he only read from page X. I point out that's a lie since my case (that he copied) happened when he said he read.

Then he says oh funny coincidence it was page Y. I pointed out that I actually pasted my case again at page Y. So two lies.

Then he changes his story for a third time and says maybe he didn't read the thread then and only read koshi's filter. Koshi quoted my case and talked about it in his filter.

Then he martyred because he got so easily caught. Someone who has never been lynched as town EVER just martyrs? No. Now he's nowhere to be seen and just drops bs town reads randomly on one guy.

Oh also his damdred scum read at deadline which was stronger than his geript one but had no reasoning either.


None of these reasons are convincing me that he's mafia.

Town are much more likely to slip up and say stupid shit than scum are.
I'm sure you remember my CCCP fail of the year.

And if he was with a scum team, they would have planned who to scum-read and who to push.

He wouldn't randomly push someone without making sure he had a believable reason to do so.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:24 GMT
#1642
On August 28 2017 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
If rayn is a town jailkeeper he's going to assume he's playing well and will get shot. To stop mafia shooting him then he claims a role that will now be protected.

Mafia now have to shoot someone else (me likely) now he has a chance to protect that person.

It's a poor play really but there are town explanations. I think his play has been markedly different from last game too.


It's only a poor play if rayn gets cc or they shoot cop n1.

So if they were blue reading vivax it would of been beneficial to shoot elsewhere so they don't out rayn.

Otherwise as town it's a fine wifom play that some on else I know makes all the time.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:28 GMT
#1643
On August 28 2017 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
If rayn is a town jailkeeper he's going to assume he's playing well and will get shot. To stop mafia shooting him then he claims a role that will now be protected.

Mafia now have to shoot someone else (me likely) now he has a chance to protect that person.

It's a poor play really but there are town explanations. I think his play has been markedly different from last game too.


So why didn't you get shot? With Rayn drawing the JK, there is 0 risk for mafia to shoot you.

However you try to twist it, there's 1 scum between you and Rayn.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:29 GMT
#1644
Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame.

So yeah it's a bad argument.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1645
On August 28 2017 23:28 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
If rayn is a town jailkeeper he's going to assume he's playing well and will get shot. To stop mafia shooting him then he claims a role that will now be protected.

Mafia now have to shoot someone else (me likely) now he has a chance to protect that person.

It's a poor play really but there are town explanations. I think his play has been markedly different from last game too.


So why didn't you get shot? With Rayn drawing the JK, there is 0 risk for mafia to shoot you.

However you try to twist it, there's 1 scum between you and Rayn.


Because they shot vivax??? Maybe they had a blue read on him since he was, you know, blue.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1646
On August 28 2017 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 14:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 28 2017 14:16 ruXxar wrote:
The fact that neither Rayn or HF got shot tonight confirms that there is guaranteed scum between them.

We 100% hit scum if we lynch into Rayn/HF.

Or Mafia went for a medic dodge shot most likely.

And you're calling my reasoning bullshit.
Again, why do i even join these games?

I wish i could even call these people mafia....

jailkeeper was always going to be on you or hf hence why I think it was a medic dodge shot.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1647
Maybe they were scared of jk wifom? Who the fuck knows.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1648
On August 28 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame.

So yeah it's a bad argument.


You can find examples of almost anything.
How is that even supposed to be a counter argument...

Do you disagree that Rayn and HF are the best NKs for scum?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#1649
Artanis is definitely mafia. No doubt about it.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:42 GMT
#1650
On August 28 2017 23:36 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame.

So yeah it's a bad argument.


You can find examples of almost anything.
How is that even supposed to be a counter argument...

Do you disagree that Rayn and HF are the best NKs for scum?


Generally speaking yes.

But that's not to say they should always be shot d1, or even happen often.

Probably if neither are dead d2 Or 3 its time to worry today the argument isn't that great.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 28 2017 14:45 GMT
#1651
Wait a second Rayn I must of misread one of your post but did you actually claim jailkeeper?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 28 2017 14:47 GMT
#1652
On August 28 2017 23:42 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 23:36 ruXxar wrote:
On August 28 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame.

So yeah it's a bad argument.


You can find examples of almost anything.
How is that even supposed to be a counter argument...

Do you disagree that Rayn and HF are the best NKs for scum?


Generally speaking yes.

But that's not to say they should always be shot d1, or even happen often.

Probably if neither are dead d2 Or 3 its time to worry today the argument isn't that great.

^
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 28 2017 14:52 GMT
#1653
Im here. I have a bunch to catch up and its my birthday. So things will come but come slow from me.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:55 GMT
#1654
Happy birthday onegu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:56 GMT
#1655
On August 28 2017 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Wait a second Rayn I must of misread one of your post but did you actually claim jailkeeper?


Are you cc him? Kind of feels like you are ls
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:57 GMT
#1656
On August 28 2017 23:42 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 23:36 ruXxar wrote:
On August 28 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame.

So yeah it's a bad argument.


You can find examples of almost anything.
How is that even supposed to be a counter argument...

Do you disagree that Rayn and HF are the best NKs for scum?


Generally speaking yes.

But that's not to say they should always be shot d1, or even happen often.

Probably if neither are dead d2 Or 3 its time to worry today the argument isn't that great.


So you agree they are the best NKs, but they aren't dead.

The simple explanation is that it's because they are scum.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2017 14:59 GMT
#1657
I disagree with your conclusion very much. There are so many different possibilities you have to take into account.

Not the least is this argument itself.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 28 2017 15:02 GMT
#1658
On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier.

Why so scummy.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 28 2017 15:03 GMT
#1659
On August 28 2017 15:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.

Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).

100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).

Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia.

Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question:
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time?

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.

No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.

Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.


Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted.

No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant".

You know what's more funny in this Oats?
You now need to explai nwhy you thought ruxxar is town and mafia for the same posts.
Waiting for you to answer.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 28 2017 15:03 GMT
#1660
On August 29 2017 00:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 15:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2017 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

Then i make a post on Artanis, Oats asks "who typed this". I tell him Artanis did. No follow up.

Then a scumread on Koshi. And a townread on HF (obviously since HF makes a post on Koshi).

100% unexplained scumread on Ruxxar. (probably because ruxxar wants to lynch koshi).

Im pretty sure the post I quoted on rux was pretty clear why I thought he was mafia.

Oh this is interesting, because i am pretty sure i accidently wrote "scumread" instead of "townread" and this is the post in question:
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

But please tell me where you did scumread Ruxxar for a post at that time?

On August 28 2017 15:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 28 2017 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier.
@Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.

No dude, Vivax is saying that ruxx has been intentionally saying shit, but what he has shown is more accidentally bad than intentionally shit.

Oats i want you to tell me which posts of Ruxxar are what you describe here.


Go look in Vivax filter dude. Its the case that he posted.

No, i want you to quote those posts yourself so you can't say "that's not what i meant".

You know what's more funny in this Oats?
You now need to explai nwhy you thought ruxxar is town and mafia for the same posts.
Waiting for you to answer.

On August 29 2017 00:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier.

Why so scummy.



No gg, No skill.
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