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It's really simple.
I'll repeat it for all of you so everyone understands.
Why HF is scum:
1) HF and Rayn are the best NKs.
2) Rayn fake claims parity cop.
3) Jailkeeper should be protecting Rayn. HF should get NKed.
4) Day 2, HF is alive.
Conclusion: HF is scum.
Why Rayn is scum:
On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote:
Rayn fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons:
1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim.
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.
2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save.
This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want.
3) Guaranteed KP for mafia.
With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum.
The chance that there is mafia in HF/Rayn is 99.9%.
Can you read this case LS and tell me if something is still unclear?
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On August 28 2017 23:52 Onegu wrote:
Im here. I have a bunch to catch up and its my birthday. So things will come but come slow from me.
Welcome to the game.
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Vivax died and he was blue. Goodbye case.
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On August 28 2017 23:59 Damdred wrote:
I disagree with your conclusion very much. There are so many different possibilities you have to take into account.
Not the least is this argument itself.
I don't care about "all the possibilities".
I only care about the possibility that is most likely correct.
That possibility is the one that I presented.
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On August 28 2017 23:56 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Wait a second Rayn I must of misread one of your post but did you actually claim jailkeeper? Are you cc him? Kind of feels like you are ls
No I was wondering why Iwas so lost about the jail keeper talk around rayn.
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In an open setup like this it's probably even better to blue hunt because you know what's coming and you have to hunt it down.
Maybe also I was on the right track?
If you're living in a world where artanis is town and I was the biggest proponent of him being mafia before I switched to koshi then maybe they left me alive?
So many possibilities and it's a stupid that you haven't learnt this, what, fourth game of you being wrong in a row making the same arguments?
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On August 28 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 23:42 Damdred wrote:On August 28 2017 23:36 ruXxar wrote:On August 28 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame.
So yeah it's a bad argument. You can find examples of almost anything. How is that even supposed to be a counter argument... Do you disagree that Rayn and HF are the best NKs for scum? Generally speaking yes. But that's not to say they should always be shot d1, or even happen often. Probably if neither are dead d2 Or 3 its time to worry today the argument isn't that great. So you agree they are the best NKs, but they aren't dead. The simple explanation is that it's because they are scum.
I think you are tunneled about that idea they normally do get night killed night 1 but sometimes they do live logner than night 1 and night 2 as town.
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There is no chance that a town artanis martyrs and afks this long. Zero.
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Like jesus christ it's day 2 and you're making this argument. It's stupid. Day 3/4 then absolutely.
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On August 29 2017 00:13 ruXxar wrote:It's really simple. I'll repeat it for all of you so everyone understands. Why HF is scum: 1) HF and Rayn are the best NKs. 2) Rayn fake claims parity cop. 3) Jailkeeper should be protecting Rayn. HF should get NKed. 4) Day 2, HF is alive. Conclusion: HF is scum.
Why Rayn is scum: Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote:
Rayn fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons:
1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim.
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.
2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save.
This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want.
3) Guaranteed KP for mafia.
With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum.
The chance that there is mafia in HF/Rayn is 99.9%. Can you read this case LS and tell me if something is still unclear?
He claimed jail keeper from what I found if I read it right.........
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Especially now rayn has claimed jk.
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The jailkeeper trading one for one, especially against rayn is extremely optimal by the way.
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ruxxar forcing a narrative that been disproven is so bad idk if he just being dumb here or mafia >.<
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BTW Today is really my birthday but got class at 2:00 pm CST to 3:20 pm CST dunno how to feel about that lmao.
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Let me make this clear, if you are the jk and rayn isn't you 100% cc him and we lynch whoever.
Like it's always better to go 1 for one here.
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Oh if you guys wanted to know where I came up with the idea of the trap I was eating dinner last night and thought it would be a good idea to see if mafia would try to lynch me in a attempt to save Lex if Lex was mafia but everyone got to confused >.<
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On August 29 2017 00:22 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW Today is really my birthday but got class at 2:00 pm CST to 3:20 pm CST dunno how to feel about that lmao.
happy birthday
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On August 29 2017 00:24 Damdred wrote:
Happy bday ls
Thank you.
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