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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 07:04 GMT
#883
My filter is literally as townie as it gets for meta.

Oats is being a shitter to the max and keeps grasping at straws, so maybe he is mafia after all. Basically no scumreads except the one person he currently talks about at any moment.

On August 26 2017 15:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.


Post count has nothing to do with how superficial koshi is playing.
Koshi is taking the path of least resistance, wanting to lynch
Afk people.

He gets called out for it, and now he puts the people voting him on his scum list.
There's literally no reason why he thinks me and HF are mafia besides voting for him.


Omgus is a townie reaction. If you see bullshit pushes on yourself, it's townie to suspect those people.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 07:06 GMT
#884
On August 26 2017 07:20 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:17 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 07:13 ruXxar wrote:
Rayn made a blue claim???!! I thought that was HF claiming cop.

i think 2ish pages ago rayn said he was parity cop. hf hard claimed blue at the start of the game but i don't think he's serious. but idk, i tend to wait until the thread catches up to it because i'm really shit with telling whether people are claiming for real or not.


Can you quote the post?

My mind is kinda... wandering at this point....

On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

pranked! it was actually 4 pages ago

¨
Whatever.

I can guarantee you 1 thing tonight 100%.

Rayn is going to be alive tomorrow.


And wtf does this mean?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 07:08 GMT
#885
Literally your entire case on koshi is that first he listed a bunch of afkers for lynch which is NAI, then omgused two of you (while you misrep that he omgused all of you although one of the votes was AFTER he posted the list) which is also NAI.

While ignoring that he has 8 pages of filter and keeps giving thoughts on everything.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 07:26 GMT
#888
On August 26 2017 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 16:04 Vivax wrote:
My filter is literally as townie as it gets for meta.

Oats is being a shitter to the max and keeps grasping at straws, so maybe he is mafia after all. [b]Basically no scumreads except the one person he currently talks about at any moment. [/b[

On August 26 2017 15:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 05:57 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.


Post count has nothing to do with how superficial koshi is playing.
Koshi is taking the path of least resistance, wanting to lynch
Afk people.

He gets called out for it, and now he puts the people voting him on his scum list.
There's literally no reason why he thinks me and HF are mafia besides voting for him.


Omgus is a townie reaction. If you see bullshit pushes on yourself, it's townie to suspect those people.

lol untrue.

I dont care about meta and actually the fact that you are aware of it is scummy.


The truth hurts.

What's this bullshit you're trying to pull Oats. Make a bullet list of reasons for me being mafia cause so far all I saw is something about a soft townread and you saying I was calling Ruxxar bad and not mafia which is far from what I said.

And besides, what are your reasons for scumreading Koshi?

Rayn and Koshi are the two guys with 8 pages of filter. How often do mafia have the largest D1 filters Oats?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 07:31 GMT
#889
This tunnel of yours has been super scummy. It's like you saw me pointing out that your read on geript was based on shitty reasons and decided to attack me for pointing it out, and since then you've been doing nothing but play with massive tunnel vision.

Your ruxxar townread is unexplained.
Your LS read isn't explained either.

You give no weighting at all to your reads.

Give me a percentage of confidence on me being mafia Oats.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 07:56 GMT
#890
Zzzzz.

Where'd you both run off to
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:01 GMT
#921
I'm still waffly on skynx. I don't think that his koshi meta dive makes him mafia as much as I thought back then (cause it was mostly just a very secluded way of doing things), but if he doesn't get his hands dirty on something soon I'm not going to change my vote.

He thinks Koshi is town and sheeps him on stuff but it doesn't bother him that there's HF and other dudes trying to wagon him? It sure bothered me.

And HF, filter size isn't a slam dunk argument for the entire game, but for me it is for D1 at the very least. D1 most of the time town has the head up the butt and mafia doesn't have to do that much, so I'm not lynching big filter guys no matter what.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:06 GMT
#927
This annoyed Artanis attitude makes me lean town pretty easily.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:14 GMT
#934
Artanis could you just post a list thingy or anything.

I really get bad vibes when you spend your time being a historian and f5ing the front page.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:15 GMT
#935
I'm being super flippant I know.

I'm annoyed at Oats and Ruxxar bugging off when my body was ready for a fight.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:30 GMT
#949
HF I don't understand what you're trying to do with skynx rehashing all that stuff over and over again.

His meta was wrong, he didn't care to do his due diligence. Make your conclusion.

I think other parts of his filter are more interesting, this for example.

On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

whaaaaat?

That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point.

It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.


This post might as well not exist since it doesn't lead anywhere.

He's saying if Koshi is mafia, then what us three did was townie. If Koshi is town, then whatever.

In later posts he talks about how LS doesn't deserve a strong TR and nobody should be townreading TW in reply to geript.

So he isn't concluding anything from his own reasoning he gave to explain how he's supposed to draw a read from what us three did.

Ergo, he probably just served rayn some drivel to shut him up.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:42 GMT
#964
HF did he actually call us three town for pointing out that his meta read was nonsense?
As far as I know he didn't. So what the hell are you people still talking about?
He was talking to rayn in hypotheticals that didn't allow a conclusion anyway. That's what matters.

And what also matters is that we know he's around but isn't chiming in.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:44 GMT
#965
What I'm trying to say is that your reasoning is that he shouldn't have argued from a point of view where Koshi is town/mafia at that given moment to form a read on us three.

But since he didn't form a read on us anyway, and wouldn't even be able to with his own reasoning, there's not even a point discussing whether he should have a town Koshi or mafia Koshi perspective.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 10:54 GMT
#976

✞
Here lies Skynx
p1-p49


+ Show Spoiler +
Disclaimer: The cross is purely figurative and doesn't take into account the actual religion
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 11:06 GMT
#990
On August 26 2017 20:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 19:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If Skynx is mafia I don't see it being terribly likely that Koshi is.


You mean the guy that scum read skynx but then with no new posts from skynx said we shouldn't lynch skynx and he wasn't in any scum list?


He never scum read skynx dude.
I'm still wary of you cause you're so hung up on Koshi.

On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:
On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.

We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum.

(that shitty bastard game, koshi town)

yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general

##Unvote



On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time.

If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded.


In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group.

brb reading thread.



PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l).
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

so good.


72 hours mafia. Town.

I don't think that's how you should hunt scum.

And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this.

What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example?

I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho.

What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum.

Elaborate on this conclusion please.

If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game.

If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be?

Mind meld?

The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling.


You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you.


This is a pretty good post.

And if Skynx actually flips mafia, TW & LS are spewed town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 11:22 GMT
#1010
On August 26 2017 20:18 Skynx wrote:
If parity cop is hiding right now thanks for losing this game to rayn & co.
Otherwise rayn is channeling his inner Anakin pretty hard right now follow him on your peril.


Wtf does any of this have to do with rayns cop claim?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 11:36 GMT
#1017
On August 26 2017 20:26 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:22 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 20:18 Skynx wrote:
If parity cop is hiding right now thanks for losing this game to rayn & co.
Otherwise rayn is channeling his inner Anakin pretty hard right now follow him on your peril.


Wtf does any of this have to do with rayns cop claim?

Cuz i have no other reason to townread him. Rayn usually is calm and collected, not necessarily this tunnelling.


I'll just repeat the issue from my point of view and see what explanation you can come up with.

This is what you told me
What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum.


On August 25 2017 05:39 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:35 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:21 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:14 Vivax wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:11 Skynx wrote:
On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote:
I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style.
I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.

We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum.

(that shitty bastard game, koshi town)

yeh I i guess just low risk opener in general

##Unvote



On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote:
So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time.

If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded.


In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group.

brb reading thread.



PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l).
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

so good.


72 hours mafia. Town.

I don't think that's how you should hunt scum.

And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this.

What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example?

I dunno, that wasn't a very effortful post by me. Feel reads are alright at this point tho.

What i got from my Koshi read was that you, LS and TW all gave the same reaction. Which gives me some indication of that none of the 3 is scum with Koshi, in case he's scum.

Elaborate on this conclusion please.

If they were teammates, they would take caution reaching a conclusion so early on in the game.

If the first person coming to the conclusion is not mafia, why can the other two not be?

Mind meld?

The timing of the posts don't matter here, TW & LS are replying to me elaborating on my thought process. HF is just trolling.


You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia. And I don't understand why they won't do it when they are mafia with me, it relieves pressure off me and puts it on you.

That's what im trying to say, TW is not necessarily a +1 imo


To keep it simple. The first quote doesn't lead anywhere.
You don't know Koshi's alignment, so you can't conclude anything about us that way. That already looks bad and like you felt forced to give a read and had the heebie jeebies.

Then when Koshi (or HF according to hf) points out that it's wrong cause we could still be mafia, you can't think of an answer that would make sense and just reply that TW shouldn't be included, which completely dodges the issue and just looks like you're dodging.

I think this is more or less what rayn was after.

I don't see you not getting lynched after this cause it just looks like you were flat out lying. You have a higher chance to not get lynched if you actually admit to have lied for whatever reason was floating your mind at the time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 11:40 GMT
#1019
On August 26 2017 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are many problematic things in what geript says, or rather what he doesn't say.


There are baby seals and there are townie seals. I prefer to avoid lynching into townie seals.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 11:46 GMT
#1026
On August 26 2017 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now.


Why do you talk as if you had your pants down
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
August 26 2017 11:48 GMT
#1029
On August 26 2017 20:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:46 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now.


Why do you talk as if you had your pants down

Who says I don't?


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