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On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool.
Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running.
You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
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in b4 the scumteam is oats/ruxXar/geript
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On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again. Show nested quote +
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open.
There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia?
Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely.
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On August 25 2017 17:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I just skimmed through the thread. Given how angry Rayn was last game I'm townleaning him for being more upbeat in this one.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I was gonna say I think Damdred might be scum for not having many original ideas and then I actually read his filter and he was first on TRing LS and also was one of the first in TRing Skynx despite pressure. If he's mafia, he's closing off a lot of avenues if these boys are town too. Seems unwise, so leaning town.
Most others are null so far. I think this is a terrible read? Nobody caught rayn by looking at how angry he got last game. It's all about how stubborn he is about enforcing his own take on the game, pretty much similarly to anyone else who is a townie with huge ego a la me/Koshi/etc. The conclusion may be right but mostly cause he told everyone to gtfo while he was conversing with skynx, in my book.
I explained my Rayn read in more detail later.
On August 25 2017 17:45 Koshi wrote:
Well. With my current townreads being town bosses we can lynch Artanis for funzies.
I don't think that would be fun at all 
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Only Town people make paint pictures. If you want to be confirmed town, you have to make a paint picture at least as awesome as mine.
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On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???
Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.
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On August 25 2017 19:35 Koshi wrote:
That is pretty good analysis btw Artanis. Your skynxread.
Question remains. Did you do it as mafia. Always easier to do better analysis as mafia.
I did plenty of mediocre analysis before though. You said so yourself.
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On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??
Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town.
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On August 25 2017 20:33 Koshi wrote:
Nha. I can see town!Skynx make that post.
I think it is more likely Skynx is town than Artanis at this point.
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I actually really hate that rayn focussed solely on my skynx read and didnt mention the point hf brought up regarding him saying the same thing to skynx last game to rels. Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad. He scumreads me anyway but doesnt mention it at all.
Rescinding rayn townread.
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Hi! Skinmed through the thread on my break. Wassup?
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I did notice something. Why did oats like all the points on me by rayn and co and then proceed not to put me in his list of 4?
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On August 26 2017 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this? *Artanis You think hes mafia?
Nvm, he just asked this then proceeded with other things. Might like that even less.
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Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.
On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. 
So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."
Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.
Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.
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On August 26 2017 04:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this? *Artanis You think hes mafia? Nvm, he just asked this then proceeded with other things. Might like that even less. Lol ok sure dude. I dont have an opinion on you. Its interesting that you scumread me off that though.
Why did you ask the question if you don't do anything with it?
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On August 26 2017 06:51 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." . This is pretty unnecessary
Don't care
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On August 26 2017 06:51 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 04:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this? *Artanis You think hes mafia? Nvm, he just asked this then proceeded with other things. Might like that even less. Lol ok sure dude. I dont have an opinion on you. Its interesting that you scumread me off that though. Why did you ask the question if you don't do anything with it? Its to read Rayn's alignment. Not yours. Duh
So how did finding out it was me help you figure out Rayn's alignment?
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On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating. Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame. I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.
I'm glad you don't want to lynch me today, but if you're town it's a lot easier to cooperate when you find out that I'm town anyway, so let's talk tomorrow mkay?
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On August 26 2017 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too. So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating. Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame. I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read. I'm glad you don't want to lynch me today, but if you're town it's a lot easier to cooperate when you find out that I'm town anyway, so let's talk tomorrow mkay? I can talk whenever you decide to say something that I think makes sense.
FTFY!
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