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On September 03 2017 21:55 Holyflare wrote: I literally just posted what changed. It's in the case you called shit. I posted we should no lynch all day yesterday. You disagreed. Completely disagreed.
Then magically it became a good idea.
Now today when I should become your top lynch you just follow everyone else and say it was the best idea.
You say we should consolidate on what town wants but i posted to no lynch yesterday BEFORE there was even a wagon. Aka your stance now is so unbelievably bull shit.
Yes it was a good idea yesterday. Its a good idea today.
Literally nothing has changed.
So trying to make up some bs reason why no-lynching today is bad is based on false premises.
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On September 04 2017 01:53 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2017 01:20 Holyflare wrote: can we have a vote to get rid of no lynches and no kills? I fine with getting rid of one of the options but i thoguht it was dumb that mafia can no shoot if town goes for a no lynch.
Yes, I think is a stupid rule, but it is what it is right now. We have to follow the rules.
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On September 04 2017 01:20 Holyflare wrote: can we have a vote to get rid of no lynches and no kills?
I don't think we should change the rules of the game while it's ongoing.
Save it for the next game.
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On September 04 2017 02:11 Holyflare wrote: no that's bull shit, that fits your agenda
mafia
rules have been changed mid game all the time when it's shit
My agenda is to no-lynch which is pro-town.
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On September 04 2017 02:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2017 02:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Vote Count - No lynch (2) -
Oatsmaster ruxxar skynx
- Ruxxar (2) - Oatsmaster, Holyflare
- LightningStrike (1) - Onegu
Non-voters (3): LightningStrike, Tumblewood, Damdred Currently, nobody is set to be lynched.
Deadline is in (at Tuesday, Aug 29 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
towniest wagon of the game right here
No.
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There is nothing to discuss.
If you are town you vote to no-lynch. End of story.
I've already given up on this game, so don't care whatever happens.
Mafia are smelling blood in the water right now. Watch out for the overly pushy guys that are avoiding no-lynching(HF).
Like I said there is no need to rush. The game doesn't end for town if we lynch scum, there's 2 more, so minimum 2 more days.
If you're whining over 1 more day of no-lynching you are scum. It's that simple.
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On September 04 2017 04:00 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2017 03:04 Holyflare wrote: no lynch is only good if people are actually talking about who the mafia team is and who they would lynch and what happens next
which absolutely nobody in this game is doing Not exactly, no lynch comes before no nk. If we continue like this it lies on mafia to accept draw or make a kill. I'd be happy with a draw in this case since everyone just wants to get done with this game.
Very town.
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On September 04 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote: maybe it's just me but i'd rather not be in a mafia game where nothing happens for 9 rl days straight. and honestly i like having the extra townie as insurance against shit townies
If you want to end the game right now, then vote for me.
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I honestly dont have the energy to play this game anymore. I lost interest halfway through, and im probably not going to play again for a while. I feel really burnt out on mafia.
I would be really happy to let the game end right now, but it would be against the spirit of the game and really bad manners from my side.
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On September 04 2017 04:21 Holyflare wrote: guaranteed mafia concedes if ruxxar dies
Why wait until I die? You can just concede right now.
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So let me try and put my thoughts together here.
HF is mafia, no doubt.
Skynx is always town here for mindmelding and thinking rationally about the game.
Also this post from skynx is starting to make a lot of sense right now:
On September 01 2017 02:45 Skynx wrote: I don't think associations make sense at this point, I'm just gona go on with instinctively what i feel at this point.
Ruxxar/TW/LS are town based on small stuff. LS's frustration felt genuine and Ruxxar not believing the claim to full extent i can relate. TW is more based on feels, his low volume play looks always the same both alignments and I identified him once as cop, i just don't think he's mafia here.
I would lynch HF here. I think he has the wits as town to realise Koshi!town at some point. I also think he pushed Art so hard with minor inconsistencies that didn't mean that much, in the end he just gave up. I'm not saying pushing is a mafia trait here but at some point but there just isn't that self-questioning of "does that actually make him mafia" here which I think HF does a lot in general.
Oats is my second lynch, he's just been picking up so many irrelevant stuff to question to seem interested in the game and give away town vibes. He has been pushing TW and geript for a while now but we had a chat in the beginning where he pointed out how its unlikely that they can't be mafia together.
That means last one is Damdred/Onegu. This is gona be the game deciding lynch. I have a feeling its Damdred, the sheer comfort mafia had this game as town picked on one another, made him quite laidback and enjoy the towncred he gained early on. It's hard to say anything on Onegu's part. He seemed uninterested as was geript but it can be swinged both ways.
Thats basically it, normally there is some association to make when you have two ml's but one was a complete waste, other was tvt. Everyone sr'd everyone so far, everyone showed so many inconsistencies its hard draw any conclusions so thats my best bet.
Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW. They are never together.
On September 02 2017 00:03 Damdred wrote: Ok lets take a step back,
Firstly its dissapointing that you cant choose between us hf. I mighgt struggle with my thoughts sometimes but thats oretry crappy reason to drop me so fast. Also whats the point of goif against you d1 on a koshi lynch and try to oush what i think as scum? (Yes i am townreading hf still).
I have
Onegu as my clear scum read currently his reads do not make s ton of sense, and geript himself was off of his normal game even barring the emotional distress.
One of oats/tw they are never both mafia , and you also forgot to talk about tw hf. I think one of tgese two are scum, im sort of leaning oats atm for what skynx pointed out first it doeant maje a lot of sense for him to abandon his read for no real reason onto you.
The third scum is sort of a mystery to me. LS has dropped ofd the face if the earth and im worried hes teixked me.
Skynx is probably just town though hia thought process on his vkte reads towny.
Idk about rux i guess maybe? He does make sebse with a onegu and oats team, but ls does .arginalky as well.
Especially with how oats approached ls he kind of fits vetter with onegu and oats atm.
There is 1 mafia between Oats and TW. They are never together if you look at how they went at each other yesterday.
Then there is 1 mafia between Onegu and LS. This is due to the fact how they are both mega scumreading each other.
This is why its so important that we no-lynch today. If we manage to remove one of the 50/50 options, we'll be on a really good path to catching 2 scum.
Mafia can't NK me, cause its going to confirm that HF is mafia 100%.
So mafia are forced to either NK damdred or skynx.
Anything else is going to help town catch more scum.
Now that I've said this... of course mafia are going to shoot one of Skynx/Damdred...
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Our best option is to nolynch. Our second best option is to lynch holyflare.
Anything else is going to be a 50/50 to me right now. There might be some more connections if you dig deeper, but right now I gotta sleep.
If anyone has any suggestions for who the 2 mafia are of these 4, then please share. I'd like us to try solve this tomorrow.
TW. Onegu. LS. Oats.
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Why so desperate HF?
We're about to bust your scum team, and all you can do is try to end the game before its too late.
No wonder you dont want to no-lynch.
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On September 04 2017 09:35 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote + Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.
We could both be town. TMI???!?
If you are both town, then where is the third mafia?
I don't think onegu and LS are a team, which means it's either skynx or damdred.
If you put a gun to my head and made me pick between damdred and skynx as scum, I would pick damdred.
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If damdred is scum then LS is 100% scum too. The association between them is super strong. Just look at their last filter posts and how they interact with each other.
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If we assume that oats and TW are town it means that the mafia team is exactly HF, damdred, LS.
So that is currently one possibility.
I think that a damdred/LS team makes more sense than a LS +tw/oats team.
I feel like oats has been very independent, had a lot of head strong thoughts and not really fitting in with a team. I have a hard time fitting oats in a team.
Oats/onegu works from the side of onegu super town reading oats.
But from oats side he really doesn't like that onegu is town reading him so hard.
Damdred/onegu team doesn't work. Damdred hated onegus list post.
Ls/onegu doesn't work.theyre scum reading each other hard.
TW/LS seems like it shouldn't really be a team either.
Hmmf. I feel like the solution is right in front of us, we just need to figure it out.
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Like, just removing 1 person from the equation is going to confirm so much information for us.
It's so easy to see why mafia didn't shoot anyone. We are so close to figuring it out. They are super scared right now.
With one more night kill we should have a really easy time solving the game.
The reason mafia didn't shoot anyone is because it's bad for them.
If it was good for mafia to shoot someone, they would have done it.
What we need to do is pressure mafia into shooting. They don't want to, but they will be forced to do so if they don't want a draw.
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On September 04 2017 10:59 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2017 10:31 ruXxar wrote:
They don't want to, but they will be forced to do so if they don't want a draw. Thats not how it works generally in stalemates the team that does their action more recently isnt the one that has to do it again. So since there was a nightkill more recently than a lynch, the mafia team isnt forced to do anything.
Mafia are the ones on the ropes. They didn't shoot because it's bad for them.
If we keep no-lynching they will be forced to eventually shoot(which they don't want to).
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On September 04 2017 14:20 Tumblewood wrote: you know what i just read ruxxar's new batch of posts and idc anymore. if he is town he has played so so bad
We've come this far. Don't throw the game now.
Vote no-lynch.
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On September 04 2017 10:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2017 09:59 ruXxar wrote:On September 04 2017 09:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Damdred is town for this post, where he correctly assesses that there is 1 mafia between Oats/TW.
We could both be town. TMI???!? If you are both town, then where is the third mafia? I don't think onegu and LS are a team, which means it's either skynx or damdred. If you put a gun to my head and made me pick between damdred and skynx as scum, I would pick damdred. You quoted the post that damdred said and all he said was that we werent mafai together. Then you take that and TMI it into 1 mafia between me and TW
Because I don't think you're ever together.
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