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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 18:52 GMT
#1336
Rels you are not voting ratn, vote ff or hopeless
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 19:06 GMT
#1344
On August 17 2017 03:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 03:52 Damdred wrote:
Rels you are not voting ratn, vote ff or hopeless

if I could I'll be voting you. From the very few posts I've seen your posts are the worst. This one and the one ~24 ago when I entered the thread last evening. They are forced. You're usually not this forced, kinda more floating around and not sure about anything.


Thats funny because most things against me is because I'm floating around unsure of my reads right now
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 19:09 GMT
#1348
On August 17 2017 04:07 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 04:06 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:58 Rels wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:52 Damdred wrote:
Rels you are not voting ratn, vote ff or hopeless

if I could I'll be voting you. From the very few posts I've seen your posts are the worst. This one and the one ~24 ago when I entered the thread last evening. They are forced. You're usually not this forced, kinda more floating around and not sure about anything.


Thats funny because most things against me is because I'm floating around unsure of my reads right now



And you're calling me out for at least giving the short vr of what my reads are???


And? I have a documented read of everyone in game basically besides your slot and rels currently.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 19:39 GMT
#1365
On August 17 2017 04:17 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 04:09 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 04:07 Eversince wrote:
On August 17 2017 04:06 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:58 Rels wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:52 Damdred wrote:
Rels you are not voting ratn, vote ff or hopeless

if I could I'll be voting you. From the very few posts I've seen your posts are the worst. This one and the one ~24 ago when I entered the thread last evening. They are forced. You're usually not this forced, kinda more floating around and not sure about anything.


Thats funny because most things against me is because I'm floating around unsure of my reads right now



And you're calling me out for at least giving the short vr of what my reads are???


And? I have a documented read of everyone in game basically besides your slot and rels currently.




Yes you did,
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On August 17 2017 04:09 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 04:07 Eversince wrote:
On August 17 2017 04:06 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:58 Rels wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:52 Damdred wrote:
Rels you are not voting ratn, vote ff or hopeless

if I could I'll be voting you. From the very few posts I've seen your posts are the worst. This one and the one ~24 ago when I entered the thread last evening. They are forced. You're usually not this forced, kinda more floating around and not sure about anything.


Thats funny because most things against me is because I'm floating around unsure of my reads right now



And you're calling me out for at least giving the short vr of what my reads are???


And? I have a documented read of everyone in game basically besides your slot and rels currently.


That would be everyone null except Rayn/ Slight Hope read?
Then would be conv (Lets assume slightly mafia) as interesting ?, Null, To town?

And that is a lie anyway:
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On August 15 2017 23:34 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I know it's bad.

But if the lynch isn't something like onegu/rels/rayn I'll be a bit annoyed at the judges.

I think besides those three and hopeless (rekt) I have a pretty sturdy reason to read people town. Maybe tw has fallen do me though, probably, maybe.


No follow with Cake so still Null, though you ask her for update vs Responses I'm going to assume still mafia since you don't do it yourself.

And add Conv is apparently town (you just went from interestingly uninteresting, null->town? no explanation), and some weak "I don't get it CC" to:
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On August 17 2017 00:03 Damdred wrote:
I just don't know who I want to lynch exactly.

FF is a bit under whelming (love you bud), and his post about agree I agree I with me to town read conversion was a bit strange but I don't necessarily think it makes him scum.

I've seen him try as both alignments and not try as both alignments. So I can't help but have and keep him at null.

I am ignoring rayn at this point, if he's scum Idk the game is just stupid at that point.

Hopeless is interesting. His initial reads list is mehish to me, look like he I just doing things to do it. Has no real follow to it and feels a bit like thread sentiment there.

His attack on ff though felt forced and needless just because ff claimed he did not see a post. It makes no sense to me to pressure someone over that is stupid and slightly scummy.

Overall I don't think hopeless and ff can be on a team. But overall I think hopeless is more likely scum but I just don't know if either are strong scummers


Are you're current reads.


Not sure what your actual point is? If its I'm hypocritical that's been known to be the case for years.

If its I don't have a ton of reads, I disagree and think you are over simplifying and leaving some implied reads and I think part of the Ryan and geript read off.

My ritoky read us also early in the thread.

But neither or here or there. The important thing like I've said before is the stance about the kynch, and possibly not important (which you are exempt from sadly) the powers vote.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 19:46 GMT
#1373
On August 17 2017 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 04:09 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 04:07 Eversince wrote:
On August 17 2017 04:06 Damdred wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:58 Rels wrote:
On August 17 2017 03:52 Damdred wrote:
Rels you are not voting ratn, vote ff or hopeless

if I could I'll be voting you. From the very few posts I've seen your posts are the worst. This one and the one ~24 ago when I entered the thread last evening. They are forced. You're usually not this forced, kinda more floating around and not sure about anything.


Thats funny because most things against me is because I'm floating around unsure of my reads right now



And you're calling me out for at least giving the short vr of what my reads are???


And? I have a documented read of everyone in game basically besides your slot and rels currently.



Can you give me a list post please?


Hf
Geript
Jealous
Rayn

Conversion
Copcake
Ritoky
FF
Hopeless


(?)
Rels
Eversince

Not sure who I'm forgetting tbh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 19:58 GMT
#1380
On August 17 2017 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
is this in order?

your mafia team is just the 2 afkers?


Yeah tw I who I forgot he's fallen into oblivion.

The two afk at in a question mark category until further notice not scum
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 20:04 GMT
#1387
On August 17 2017 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
wait so hopeless and ff are both your scum reads basically?


I'm not sure that anyone in that group is any lower than null leaning scum or null leaning town.

Like if I had more freedom I might even be filter diving ritoky and hard pushing him for being.... strangely inadequate atm.

Like I think hopeless could be Sun and any time I think about it I could rearrange that group
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 20:07 GMT
#1391
On August 17 2017 05:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Man i have so much work right now. If I get lynched sorry for being a shitter but damdred is scum and conversion is giving me bad vibes again and i think we should examine the possibility that all 3 lynch targets are town


Then ff makes a post like this that makes me want to kill him.

It's such a scum lean in post.

Vibes to throw scum on conversion.

Such a poo poo post (love you ff)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 20:16 GMT
#1403
Ritoky shows up last second ninja votes calling it now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 20:56 GMT
#1423
I am unsure that this vote actually means anything for mafia scum.

Ritoky not really caring is interesti ng, but the game in general didn't care hrm.

I think ritoky response to the power bit is much more interesting in that regard
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 16 2017 23:17 GMT
#1441
I think the biggest thing about rels is, he has read the game somewhat (knows I'm being a bit lackluster) has time to snipe about it but doesn't help the game or drive it forward.

And if he hasn't why is he scum reading me for tho ng s that might be or not be true?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 01:39 GMT
#1446
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote:
If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid


Well first to the vote Thing.

Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).

If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.

If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)

Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.

As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 01:43 GMT
#1447
I am wrong on hopeless+Tumblr btw I thought he voted for ff, so no still interesting and can be a team maybe sorta
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 02:29 GMT
#1454
On August 17 2017 11:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 10:43 Damdred wrote:
I am wrong on hopeless+Tumblr btw I thought he voted for ff, so no still interesting and can be a team maybe sorta

Hopeless + TW can be a team; it was brought up last game, but it's far harder to "vote wrong" as scum. It's especially so when you're already under (P)pressure. I think TW + Cop makes (T)Way more (Z)Sense personally, but without actually diving filters specifically looking for possible connections I don't particularly care.

Well I they're scum together they have to be 100% be ok with bussing at that point.

Or well have the vote coordination down to the second. Either are plausible it's probably better not to make super connective teams just yet.

Also think it's much less likely that hopeless/rels/tw are the scum together.

Like I just don't see a super bus going on that early when two If he town options are up.

Like I really think the wayvrels went about eod is indicative of a scum mindset. TW or hopeless could be scum hi never together (for me at least). Then just need to figure out the last one for my poe.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 02:40 GMT
#1455
Like I'm torn about ever here.

Besides what I said earlier, ever response to me was a little interesting but not sure if it's enough to call her scum or town.

Like she just slams me at first for being hypocritical, and has see me to already of read my filter without given any of a read in her post.

But does have enough to throw shade without really coming to a conclusion almost as if she is setting up for it tommorow.

Her vote is also a bit interesting reason given was voting with her town reads which she has (2) of on the train. But an also has a strange tea of hf on the train as well.

Like she might of been avoiding the hopeless wagon just because i was also on it, but ff was a null and didnt have much of an opinion on hopeless.

Eh need to think on that not much evidence or thread documentation to see one way or another.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 02:49 GMT
#1463
That's not tinfoiling that's thinking through all of thebdidderent scenarios
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 02:49 GMT
#1464
On August 17 2017 11:48 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 05:33 rsoultin wrote:
Day 1 Elimination Final Vote Count


raynpelikoneet (2): Conversion, Jealous, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, Hopeless1der
Fecalfeast (5): geript, Holyflare, Conversion, Eversince, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der (5): Fecalfeast, Damdred, CopCake, Rels, Tumblewood

Not Voting (1): ritoky


In Fecalfeast was eliminated from the competition.


Ok, I have a question and just noticed this

if Hopeless and FF both have 5 votes... why is FF lynched? was it with a coin?


FF got there dirst
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 03:35 GMT
#1498
On August 17 2017 11:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On August 17 2017 11:49 Damdred wrote:
That's not tinfoiling that's thinking through all of thebdidderent scenarios

You're "different scenarios" rely on the fact that the judges picked two or three scum and that they bussed each other and that we 'super bussed' each other but wait not really so only one can ever be scum.

how do you define tinfoil damdred. really, what possible conclusion from your read should ANYONE (not just me or TW, but the other players or the judges or even the hosts...wtf are you saying?!)


I never said that we had multiple scum up for the lynch.

I think rayn is basically unable to be scum. Is it slightly possible that he somehow did it... I guess? But I think that Is tin foil at this point.

Could you be scum? Yes, obviously with my other conclusions you could be the scum up. I do not think it is possible for you to be scum with tw.

I think tw is more Likely scum than you, and the way the votes happened (If you are both scum) then the scum team would be happy about bussing when they do not have to. Which does not make sense.

This is compounded with the fact I think rels is scum and has no real vested interest in the lynch.

So no honestly I don't think scum was up for lynch at this point.

Some combination of TW/Rels/Ever will probably have two Sun in it currently.

If this makes more sense.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 03:41 GMT
#1503
On August 17 2017 12:23 geript wrote:
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On August 17 2017 12:19 CopCake wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia?page=70#1393

From this post i can tell you he believes both are town but that Hopeless is more likely mafia than FF, i mean it also took ME a moment to see FF more townie than Hopeless.

He got 3 minutes to decide between FF and Hopeless, ofc he would pick FF because he remembered he was a town read of his and FF's filters is shorter, I need to see if the "I like this post" of Hopeless was between the last 3 minutes because that would mean he only read FF's filter.

Bull shit read the fucking posts.
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On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters

Show nested quote +
On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.

So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.

Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof

well get me lynched then bro.

i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here

This is clearly and obviously him representing that he's read both filters. Hell just opening reading FF's filter which was like 3 pages would take 3 minutes. You can't tell me he's not flat out lying about what he's doing and done. You can't flat out say that he thinks both are town when he fucking says 2/3rds of mafia are in a group of Hopeless +4. That's why he needs to be lynched.


That last quit if tumble turns out scum might of hard cleared Ryan and hopeless to the extreme
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 17 2017 03:46 GMT
#1505
@cake can you take me through your thought process on voting hopeless?
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