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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 01:46 GMT
#595
On August 15 2017 10:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
holy shit that was a post of just words from jealous.

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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 02:03 GMT
#605
On August 15 2017 10:57 CopCake wrote:
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On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.


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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 04:13 GMT
#618
On August 15 2017 12:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
before I go to bed, I just want to point out that the last few posts of the thread are shitting on the reads of the



3 CONFIRMED TOWN JUDGES.WHO ARE TRYING TO WIN THE GAME FOR YOU PLEBS.



That is all. Make conclusions as you see fit.

(I refer specifically to Jealous, and his perceived value to the thread this cycle)

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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 05:04 GMT
#626
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 06:06 GMT
#632
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 06:18 GMT
#633
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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 15:13 GMT
#825
+ Show Spoiler [Good Morning!] +
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 15:48 GMT
#852
On August 16 2017 00:37 CopCake wrote:
If I have my ways to read people those are my ways, I dont need to use a general filter but my experience with said player.

https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_the_fiction_of_memory

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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 15:54 GMT
#864
On August 16 2017 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 16 2017 00:48 Jealous wrote:
On August 16 2017 00:37 CopCake wrote:
If I have my ways to read people those are my ways, I dont need to use a general filter but my experience with said player.

https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_the_fiction_of_memory

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And you dont get to facepalm when you cant make any coherent posts.

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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 16:14 GMT
#876
On August 16 2017 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 16 2017 00:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 16 2017 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 16 2017 00:48 Jealous wrote:
On August 16 2017 00:37 CopCake wrote:
If I have my ways to read people those are my ways, I dont need to use a general filter but my experience with said player.

https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_the_fiction_of_memory

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And you dont get to facepalm when you cant make any coherent posts.

He's literally posted lists of his reads/reasons in paint format. If you are actually that high strung to refuse to read his posts because they're images then you can go right to hell rayn.

can you tell me what his reads say? like really. i know you can say "he's said more than most of the people" but really really. Look at his reads on me and Damdred for example. What does it say to you? He posts "this post is bad", "this post is good", now after these X number of posts i think this guy is Y". I can't figure out what he is ACTUALLY saying, i can fucking post pictures od people's posts being red or green. Does that make me town? It is fucking terrible and especially the inconsistancy with his read change on me/geript is something people cant apparently find out or even question. THE DUDE HAD ME AS MAFIA BECAUSE I WAS "SHEEPING GERIPT" AND WHEN HE WAS PROVEN WRONG, GERIPT SHEEPING ME WAN NOT ANYMORE A REASON TO READ HIM MAFIA. Jesus fuck.

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"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 17:14 GMT
#899
On August 16 2017 02:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
that angry rayn can suck a bag of dicks and die in a fire

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 17:37 GMT
#922
On August 16 2017 02:25 Holyflare wrote:
Hey jealous why was rayn mafia for sheeping geript but geript not mafia for "sheeping" rayn?

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inb4 rayn mad

Rayn was on the scumlean list for other reasons initially and my recollection of him sheeping geript did not have any impact on that because that is slight town lean or NAI in my book. When I looked back as a result of H1's post, I noted that it was rayn that had a plan (even though it wouldn't work) so I took him off my list, but it was geript who fixed it and made it plausible within the confines of the game, which to me shows enough initiative to keep him as a town read, at least until further developments. In effect, neither person sheeped the other completely - they collaborated to make what would have been a solid plan. Rayn's continual focus on this point strikes me as desperate smearing after a history of not even bothering to read the thread and consider why the judges and others see me as town.

In short, moron.

PS: In lecture, no art supplies T_T;
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 17:44 GMT
#926
On August 16 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 02:37 Jealous wrote:
On August 16 2017 02:25 Holyflare wrote:
Hey jealous why was rayn mafia for sheeping geript but geript not mafia for "sheeping" rayn?

+ Show Spoiler +
inb4 rayn mad

Rayn was on the scumlean list for other reasons initially and my recollection of him sheeping geript did not have any impact on that because that is slight town lean or NAI in my book. When I looked back as a result of H1's post, I noted that it was rayn that had a plan (even though it wouldn't work) so I took him off my list, but it was geript who fixed it and made it plausible within the confines of the game, which to me shows enough initiative to keep him as a town read, at least until further developments. In effect, neither person sheeped the other completely - they collaborated to make what would have been a solid plan. Rayn's continual focus on this point strikes me as desperate smearing after a history of not even bothering to read the thread and consider why the judges and others see me as town.

In short, moron.

PS: In lecture, no art supplies T_T;


What reasons? You town lean him in your read of rayn's filter post so?

At the time of that drawing, it was the interactions surrounding the first big post, which I have highlighted in my filter analysis. Basically imagine that chart until shortly after that point but remove the green boxes related to the planning portion, or half fill one of them with light green mixed with gray. This paints a much less positive overall picture of rayn, which is where my read was at the time prior to H1's post.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 17:52 GMT
#928
On August 16 2017 02:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm in tumbleweeds filter and i don't think he's mafia. Not enough to call him solid town but u know

I think rayns martyring is scummy outside anything else that's been said about him.

I still think HF is town.

I dislike jealous' all paint style but I guess he's towny enough.

Has copcake done anything since being nominated? I can't remember anything of substance I will look at her filter.

I think I remember agreeing with damdred that conversion has made himself look more towny. After a cursory look at his filter i am satisfied

I need scumreads someone tell me a filter to dive


You said you like Damdred as town, so it would be nice if you could look at his filter and perhaps you can point out where our interpretations differ so I could see it from a different perspective.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 18:04 GMT
#938
On August 16 2017 03:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Words in a picture counts as paint

You're being intentionally obtuse here. Just say that you didn't read them or didn't bother to interpret them and I would have liked your answer better.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 18:12 GMT
#943
On August 16 2017 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok but that would be a lie

Okay let's break it down. You said my posts were all paint. That is true. Did you not mean to imply that my posts had no content/value beyond the artistic because they were all paint? Because that's how I and I think H1 interpreted it. Assuming that that is in fact what you inferred, them it is a failing on your part, which is what my previous post addresses.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 19:51 GMT
#1016
On August 16 2017 04:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm gonna have lunch instead of filtering copcake because I don't want to do what 1derboy asked me to do. I see you conversion I'll do it for you later

I asked you to filter Damdred, why ignore my request as well?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 19:59 GMT
#1023
On August 16 2017 04:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On August 16 2017 04:51 Jealous wrote:
On August 16 2017 04:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm gonna have lunch instead of filtering copcake because I don't want to do what 1derboy asked me to do. I see you conversion I'll do it for you later

I asked you to filter Damdred, why ignore my request as well?

Didn't see that sure i can do that

Thanks! My biggest question was why you read him as town for the same frame if posts that I scumlean on him and why you would disagree with my impression on his posts. You can see my read in my filter.

As far as HF/CC and the vote cycle (it's still going right? Still on mobile so I haven't checked), I can understand people both believing in and being wary of HF because that's where I'm at, but CopCake makes very little sense sometimes and has contributed even less so I am puzzled as to why anyone would vote for her at all. Vote analysis in a cycle or two should be interesting.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 20:05 GMT
#1031
On August 16 2017 05:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdreds filter is thoroughly uninspiring. He makes some weak reads and pokes a couple people but for someone who was hype pregame I'm not seeing any of the hype now that the game has started. Sad that he rolled scum? Maybe but that's super duper weak so I'll have to give damdred a solid null with a slight tinge of scumread.

I do like that he soft defended me from.1derboys trash though.


I guess that puts us on the same page to varying degrees, more or less. I was puzzled at your town read. It was a bad one.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
August 15 2017 20:19 GMT
#1048
On August 16 2017 05:15 Tumblewood wrote:
i think cake is the lockedest locked town and here is why:
+ Show Spoiler [some examples] +
On August 16 2017 04:21 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
On August 16 2017 03:56 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:08 Conversion wrote:
also if rayn is mafia, then is cop mafia too by virtue of sticking up for him?

On August 15 2017 11:07 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote:
On August 15 2017 10:57 CopCake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote:
i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks.

i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm.

i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't.

with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective.

but i don't really want to vote for any of them.


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Like he doesn't care

also pls give rayn some time :/

This comes from someone that talks to him everyday, I know he had a shitty day and got almost not sleep.



This is the post HF


So it's conversion and not hopeless? And it's one person not many. And it's not a scum read, it's a hypothetical. I don't think conversion scum reads rayn at that point?

So why is it a forest of wolves and why did you feel the need to tell people to lynch you or whatever?

What have you done other than say rayn is actually afk? Where are the scum reads/town reads?

I've said rels is actually afk irl (steam) but I've actually got reads too. Soooooooo where are yours?


Dude wtf, what is your problem? I said several people and said who: ritoki, tumblewood in the begining, you when rayn came back etc

Honestly wtf you are putting fucking words on my mouth.

this indignation doesn't read as anything but town
On August 16 2017 00:03 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2017 00:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 16 2017 00:00 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:56 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:54 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:40 Damdred wrote:
Copcake rayn has come back and Don things.

Read on him now?


Town. Rayn would have pushed on the weakest/scummiest town if he was mafia.


That's about 0% true. He called me mafia and pushed me as mafia in his last mafia game.


Were you a general town read or you were suspected?

How the fuck does that matter based on the criteria you gave?


Because it would give me more inside.

in what universe is HF weak town?

You are putting words in my mouth, I never knew rayn did that (pushing HF and both were mafia together)

On August 16 2017 00:07 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 23:40 Damdred wrote:
Copcake rayn has come back and Don things.

Read on him now?


Town. Rayn would have pushed on the weakest/scummiest town if he was mafia.


That's about 0% true. He called me mafia and pushed me as mafia in his last mafia game.


Here

He called you mafia and you were mafia together

And How am I supposed to know about your games with rayn? I am talking of the times he has been mafia with me on VS.

in 2 words: righteous indignation.
i think it is one of the towniest responses to have to an accusation / pointed question and cake's filter has it in spades.
i think u should vote her because, among lowish-risk votes, cake is the lowest risk. jealous is fakeable because a lot of his interaction is indirect because of the paint thing. i still think he is town but it is harder to be certain with jealous. hf is also tricky to read and could definitely fake this for 1 day. i don't think cake's filter is fakeable. especially look at this:
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On August 15 2017 22:19 CopCake wrote:
On August 15 2017 22:16 Conversion wrote:
meanwhile not a single post from Rels and apparently this is OK town behavior b/c that's his meta

yet hopeless rants on and on about inactives, filter length being an indicator for his scum reads, etc.

I'll take notes for next time mr. french man

Rels was mafia with HF last game. Would be odd if both of them are mafia again

this would be the strangest thing to think of and write as scum. just no way

sheep or u are mafia trying to destroy town

Hm. I would think that emotional and random would actually be NAI as it's not hard to do nothing but defend yourself from accurate judgments of your subpar posting.
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