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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 22 2017 18:12 GMT
#3621
On August 23 2017 03:11 Holyflare wrote:
Knowing alignments now I still would have lynched rels 10/10 times.

I woulda lynched rayn but hey thats just me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 18:13 GMT
#3622
On August 22 2017 22:47 Koshi wrote:
Yeah I think mafia should maybe have played it through. If they push 1 ml after this they get a free ml on TW. I think either Hopeless or Jealous would have entered the pool after this.

Especially with so many townies hard scumreading each other.

No. I'm 100% confirmed scum after N3 after the Vig Shot ruling. Basically Disinfo has to dodge a bunch of powerups and lynches (which he will 100% be in). TW is basically confirmed town after I flip.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 22 2017 18:22 GMT
#3623
On August 23 2017 03:13 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 22:47 Koshi wrote:
Yeah I think mafia should maybe have played it through. If they push 1 ml after this they get a free ml on TW. I think either Hopeless or Jealous would have entered the pool after this.

Especially with so many townies hard scumreading each other.

No. I'm 100% confirmed scum after N3 after the Vig Shot ruling. Basically Disinfo has to dodge a bunch of powerups and lynches (which he will 100% be in). TW is basically confirmed town after I flip.

You guys could have pretty easily pushed disinfo/ever/1gu's slot imo. At a minimum one more day of making us sad.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 22 2017 18:31 GMT
#3624
On August 23 2017 03:13 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 22:47 Koshi wrote:
Yeah I think mafia should maybe have played it through. If they push 1 ml after this they get a free ml on TW. I think either Hopeless or Jealous would have entered the pool after this.

Especially with so many townies hard scumreading each other.

No. I'm 100% confirmed scum after N3 after the Vig Shot ruling. Basically Disinfo has to dodge a bunch of powerups and lynches (which he will 100% be in). TW is basically confirmed town after I flip.


I'm not arguing that you thought you didn't have a chance. Clearly you thought that. But 1) HF didn't have a gun (yes, he might have received one, but still) 2) if you think you're conf scum, get yourself lynched, and 3) there's nothing confirming Tumble anything. Town is notorious for plowing through, and scum equally notorious for thinking town will be right more than they are because from your perspective everything appears obvious.

Not saying it would be easy. Inevitable, though? No. Not that. Can't blame you for either not seeing that, or not wanting to try, though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 18:36 GMT
#3625
On August 23 2017 03:22 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 03:13 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 22:47 Koshi wrote:
Yeah I think mafia should maybe have played it through. If they push 1 ml after this they get a free ml on TW. I think either Hopeless or Jealous would have entered the pool after this.

Especially with so many townies hard scumreading each other.

No. I'm 100% confirmed scum after N3 after the Vig Shot ruling. Basically Disinfo has to dodge a bunch of powerups and lynches (which he will 100% be in). TW is basically confirmed town after I flip.

You guys could have pretty easily pushed disinfo/ever/1gu's slot imo. At a minimum one more day of making us sad.

I don't think it's that easy. From my viewpoint, Rayn was going to get lynched at some point (because he's obviously not town), Onegu/Ever/Disinfo is going to get lynched for inactivity/being scum/whatever. But equally, I even if I bus both odds of winning every power-up to explain me being alive are super low; plus I still have to lynch HF (highly unlikely), or beat him out for it so he dies (much harder without supporting votes) which also points to me being scum. The only way mafia wins the current setup I think is if they only lose 1 mafia at most and basically just steam roll town. Like the longer I "win" the more actual town (who I've had little ability to lynch) are left in the game who just want to vote me regardless. Like it's not an easy situation.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 18:43 GMT
#3626
On August 23 2017 03:31 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 03:13 geript wrote:
On August 22 2017 22:47 Koshi wrote:
Yeah I think mafia should maybe have played it through. If they push 1 ml after this they get a free ml on TW. I think either Hopeless or Jealous would have entered the pool after this.

Especially with so many townies hard scumreading each other.

No. I'm 100% confirmed scum after N3 after the Vig Shot ruling. Basically Disinfo has to dodge a bunch of powerups and lynches (which he will 100% be in). TW is basically confirmed town after I flip.


I'm not arguing that you thought you didn't have a chance. Clearly you thought that. But 1) HF didn't have a gun (yes, he might have received one, but still) 2) if you think you're conf scum, get yourself lynched, and 3) there's nothing confirming Tumble anything. Town is notorious for plowing through, and scum equally notorious for thinking town will be right more than they are because from your perspective everything appears obvious.

Not saying it would be easy. Inevitable, though? No. Not that. Can't blame you for either not seeing that, or not wanting to try, though.

HF is 100% getting the gun. At worst, ritoky gets the gun. Even if you say Tumble isn't confirmed by my filter (I'm known for being very willing to bus), there's no scenario where mafia is coming out of D3 with more than 1 member. After a scum lynch, it's 100% correct to shoot. I get confirmed one way or another (which is huge), and it clears up the whole mess. Like, Town may plow through, but it's really hard to plow through when HF is going to write 4 walls of text on what the exact scum team is and why. Especially when he has an alive green check (who will help push it), Hopeless who will reconsider pretty heavily after either Rayn or I die, and a vig shot to mess around with.

If Rayn doens't push obvious "unRayn" things all game, it's maybe possible. But past that, idk.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 22 2017 18:48 GMT
#3627
I understand your point of view even if I don't fully agree with it and find further argument pointless
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 22 2017 18:49 GMT
#3628
The thread announcement was defintely our bad and shouldn't have happened
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 22 2017 18:54 GMT
#3629
The thread announcement changed nothing to be fair.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 22 2017 18:54 GMT
#3630
On August 22 2017 22:58 Holyflare wrote:
If i got that response from the host I would have shot rayn and claimed it just before deadline though so the shot wouldn't go through and geript would be confirmed.

Sick plays were coming.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 22 2017 18:55 GMT
#3631
On August 23 2017 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
The thread announcement changed nothing to be fair.

Aside from you trying to win towncred for one of them...I asked for the judges to be separated from the game-group so filters weren't cluttered, but you dont see me using that to win tonwcred.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 22 2017 18:57 GMT
#3632
that feel when you basically nothing to deserve a win, but still feel like the town hero
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-22 18:59:10
August 22 2017 18:58 GMT
#3633
On August 23 2017 03:57 ritoky wrote:
that feel when you basically nothing to deserve a win, but still feel like the town hero


I gotcha buddy
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 22 2017 19:04 GMT
#3634
On August 23 2017 03:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 03:57 ritoky wrote:
that feel when you basically nothing to deserve a win, but still feel like the town hero


I gotcha buddy


I feel like my role this game was to get green checked by you and then spend the remainder of the game talking you down from murdering copcake.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 22 2017 19:07 GMT
#3635
Thing is I didn't even think copcake was that mafia-y until the tirade of calling me mafia forever just because I mislynched rels. Which is unfortunate.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 22 2017 19:12 GMT
#3636
On August 23 2017 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
Thing is I didn't even think copcake was that mafia-y until the tirade of calling me mafia forever just because I mislynched rels. Which is unfortunate.

If she was anywhere near comprehensive I'd have taken her seriously. Her inability to answer a question directly without telling someone to fuck off really made me want to ignore everything she posted. Even when I did the same thing it was a flat out "no", and not a tirade about how everyone hates me and would never listen. CopCake if you actually reported me to anyone, at this point you need to remember that I was town and everything I said was my genuine thought. You made the game really hard to read/play. Work on that in the future.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 22 2017 19:23 GMT
#3637
On August 23 2017 03:11 Holyflare wrote:
Knowing alignments now I still would have lynched rels 10/10 times.

so bad. I was never more than a coinflip %age wise.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2017 19:27 GMT
#3638
On August 23 2017 04:23 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 03:11 Holyflare wrote:
Knowing alignments now I still would have lynched rels 10/10 times.

so bad. I was never more than a coinflip %age wise.

Still the best lynch that day. Jealous was pretty townie. So was ritoky.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 22 2017 19:28 GMT
#3639
On August 23 2017 04:27 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 04:23 Rels wrote:
On August 23 2017 03:11 Holyflare wrote:
Knowing alignments now I still would have lynched rels 10/10 times.

so bad. I was never more than a coinflip %age wise.

Still the best lynch that day. Jealous was pretty townie. So was ritoky.

agree
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 22 2017 19:42 GMT
#3640
Rels is always the best lynch
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