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On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:
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I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h. In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. Yup. This is objectively the best idea. I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him. Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h. I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that. No, no, no. Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start. If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia. Why are you so convinced of this. That is quite scummy. What is scummy about it? It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless. Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out. Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start).
Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns.
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On July 31 2017 08:09 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 07:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:44 Tumblewood wrote:
i have a role now. that is all i will say about it until further notice You dont seem very excited. Bad news? sry what i meant to say was "yes!!!!!!!! woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i got my role pm!! but that's all i'm saying about it for now."
How about "Glory to arstotzka?"
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On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
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The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid.
Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h. In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. Yup. This is objectively the best idea. I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him. Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h. I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that. No, no, no. Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start. If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia. Why are you so convinced of this. That is quite scummy. What is scummy about it? It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless. Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out. Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start). Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns.
This should end the crazy train that CopCake is on and end leave that discussion dead.
Let's move on.
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On July 31 2017 08:11 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:
Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns. Yea I kinda get this. Not sure about "having confirmed towns" though. Also not sure why that makes Cake's pov scummy. Like the whole point of mafia is a small group of people having info vs a large group who are in the dark. Is there really THAT much difference between a normal "Vanilla Town" PM and a "You don't know" PM? Besides the extra bit of confusion, ofc.
It's scummy because shes trying to throw scum on people for illogical reasons.
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On July 31 2017 08:21 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:
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Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage
I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h. In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. Yup. This is objectively the best idea. I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him. Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h. I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that. No, no, no. Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start. If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia. Why are you so convinced of this. That is quite scummy. What is scummy about it? It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless. Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out. Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start). Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns. This is so dumb, Mafia can pretend to do not know a thing, you know?
I expect a mafia to type "I am town" not "I don't know my alignment" if they got a mafia role PM.
It's a very unique thing to write, and they wouldn't catch on until a couple people wrote it already.
Your argument doesn't make any sense.
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On July 31 2017 08:30 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 08:25 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 08:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:
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Yup. This is objectively the best idea.
I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him. Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h. I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that. No, no, no. Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start. If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia. Why are you so convinced of this. That is quite scummy. What is scummy about it? It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless. Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out. Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start). Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns. This is so dumb, Mafia can pretend to do not know a thing, you know? I expect a mafia to type "I am town" not "I don't know my alignment" if they got a mafia role PM. It's a very unique thing to write, and they wouldn't catch on until a couple people wrote it already. Your argument doesn't make any sense. Excuse me I don't understand your point. What if the host told mafia "No one knows your pm but you" Ofc Mafia would write "I don't know my role" if not then Town would have a HUGE advantage ^^ and that would make Holy Flair mafia in your world if that was the case.
Now you're creating new assumptions to back your belief instead of just going with the simple idea that noone knew their alignment.
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On July 31 2017 08:47 Holyflare wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rQQQR1r.png)
Rise of the all arstotzkan peoples front imminent?
Noone even signed up for it.
What is this fake news.
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As mentioned earlier I am very glad to announce that I have been granted the honor of becoming a native citizen of arstotzka.
They have provided me with a nice little house with everything I need.
Enough heating to keep me warm and enough food to not go hungry.
They seem to however have forgotten to include a box of matches to light up the gas stove.
If nobody helps out, I'll have to eat my food raw.
I can't wait to tell my wife the great news.
Glory to Arstotzka
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On July 31 2017 09:10 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 09:07 ruXxar wrote:
As mentioned earlier I am very glad to announce that I have been granted the honor of becoming a native citizen of arstotzka.
They have provided me with a nice little house with everything I need.
Enough heating to keep me warm and enough food to not go hungry.
They seem to however have forgotten to include a box of matches to light up the gas stove.
If nobody helps out, I'll have to eat my food raw.
I can't wait to tell my wife the great news.
Glory to Arstotzka so needy. first clothes and food, now matches? what happens if no one gives you anything?
Life will be hard, but I can manage.
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On July 31 2017 09:14 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 03:39 Superbia wrote:Comrades, My name is Padimir Vlutin, leader of the All-Arstotzkian People's Front. We, the All-Arstotzkian People's Front, are currently looking for YOU to join us. A bright future for Arstotzka is a bright future for you! Type ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front to become the future of Arstotzka! Glory to Arstotzka. ![[image loading]](https://res.cloudinary.com/lmn/image/upload/c_limit,h_360,w_640/e_sharpen:100/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/v1/gameskinnyop/a/f/d/orig_afd543e46c74cb34c753e5f23083c39d.jpg) ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front
You cannot join without a valid passport providing you entry to the great Arstotzka.
Please provide a valid passport to ensure your loyal and honest affection to Arstotzka.
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On July 31 2017 09:18 Tumblewood wrote:
i'm hesitant to do things just because i can do things
We must all share with each other. It is the way of socialism. The best way.
Our great leader asks us to do our part every day. Not for ourself, but for our great nation.
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On July 31 2017 09:24 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 05:43 ruXxar wrote:
Comrades, I have received news that I have been appropriated as a legal citizen of the great arstotzka.
This is a most enjoyus day of all, that I have waited for all my life.
Glory to Arstotzka. Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 09:07 ruXxar wrote:
As mentioned earlier I am very glad to announce that I have been granted the honor of becoming a native citizen of arstotzka.
They have provided me with a nice little house with everything I need.
Enough heating to keep me warm and enough food to not go hungry.
They seem to however have forgotten to include a box of matches to light up the gas stove.
If nobody helps out, I'll have to eat my food raw.
I can't wait to tell my wife the great news.
Glory to Arstotzka The 3 hour gap between you being granted citizenship and this request strikes me as a bit odd. However in the interest of good relations between nations, I will lend aid.
##Give Item to Player: Box of Matches to Ruxxar
This is the kindness that has built out great nation.
Come join me for dinner, I will cook old traditional dish in celebration of today.
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On July 31 2017 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
Can I get a copy of the paper comrade?
I want to read the articles.
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On July 31 2017 10:11 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 09:18 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 09:14 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 03:39 Superbia wrote:Comrades, My name is Padimir Vlutin, leader of the All-Arstotzkian People's Front. We, the All-Arstotzkian People's Front, are currently looking for YOU to join us. A bright future for Arstotzka is a bright future for you! Type ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front to become the future of Arstotzka! Glory to Arstotzka. ##Join: The All-Arstotzkian People's Front You cannot join without a valid passport providing you entry to the great Arstotzka. Please provide a valid passport to ensure your loyal and honest affection to Arstotzka. You will regret this
My job is to protect the great nation of Arstotzka.
The only regret I will have is if I let more filthy spies into the country
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On July 31 2017 06:50 Conversion wrote:
Sir ruXxar, could you enlighten this new fellow as to why you are at a no-lynch right now? The information will help me greatly.
I am very interested in knowing what conclusion you reached from my answer.
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Otherwise not much on conversion. NAI for now.
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Can lynch DF.
Not willing to cooperate with arstotzkan government rules = filthy spy.
Can also lynch superbia for starting rogue organization without valid papers.
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On July 31 2017 14:35 CopCake wrote:
But for whatever reason Idk why you have Ruxxar as someone that reacted to role pms when he didnt, like he was confused when Superbia got his pm and didnt know what he was talking about.
If Ruxxar ls scum you are scum now. You are trying to save him in my eyes and looking for excuses to make me look scummy when I have given reasons in the thread Why I suspected Ruxxar, even said I prefered a ruxxar lynch than a HF one, not just the "now" and "if" comments.
Outright lie.
On July 31 2017 05:43 ruXxar wrote:
Comrades, I have received news that I have been appropriated as a legal citizen of the great arstotzka.
This is a most enjoyus day of all, that I have waited for all my life.
Glory to Arstotzka.
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On July 31 2017 14:36 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 13:44 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:
so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started Didn't read the entire thread while trying to come off as he did. Gut says ctrl-F on finding his name on a scum list. Fine lynch.Aaaaand that's all I've got time for this morning. Though, unrelated, TT is that how to give items? You don't agree with my point here then, ruxxy? Why not?
I've seen so many people have that "what's going on?" reaction in my last games and they all turned out to be town.
I don't find it to be a very reliable scum indicator.
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On July 31 2017 14:42 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:41 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 14:35 CopCake wrote:
But for whatever reason Idk why you have Ruxxar as someone that reacted to role pms when he didnt, like he was confused when Superbia got his pm and didnt know what he was talking about.
If Ruxxar ls scum you are scum now. You are trying to save him in my eyes and looking for excuses to make me look scummy when I have given reasons in the thread Why I suspected Ruxxar, even said I prefered a ruxxar lynch than a HF one, not just the "now" and "if" comments. Outright lie. On July 31 2017 05:43 ruXxar wrote:
Comrades, I have received news that I have been appropriated as a legal citizen of the great arstotzka.
This is a most enjoyus day of all, that I have waited for all my life.
Glory to Arstotzka. The right monent when Superbia claimed you wrote "?" You didnt know what he was talking about, you figured it out later the town got their role pms.
To make that argument you have to go back in the world where scum knew their alignment from the start.
Which we already determined is completely unrealistic.
Therefore your argument is void.
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