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On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.
i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his. How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ? Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true. Other questions: Why did you visit cake ? Can you answer HF ?
1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself)
2. koshi isn't a watcher role?
3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.
4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters
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On August 05 2017 02:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 02:50 Tumblewood wrote:On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.
i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his. How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ? Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true. Other questions: Why did you visit cake ? Can you answer HF ? 1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself) 2. koshi isn't a watcher role? 3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself. 4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters 1. Well if you can't explain, why do you think he's lying ? Occam razor says he said what info he had. And he didn't try to trick ruxxar => ruxxar lied and then Koshi attacked him. 2. dunno. But he said he didn't know how he got the info. 3. mm OK. 4. OK.
i don't really think he's lying. i was accusatory in my initial post but it doesn't make sense to me that he's totally lying.
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ummmm i just got a pm. apparently there was a hosting fuckup and i actually saw 5 different people (koshi, btdt, ruxxar, cc, and myself) visit cc. i don't get what happened because i thought i was supposed to see who cc visited. but this is the new info i guess
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so uh if anyone is still here i could use some help figuring out what the fuck happened
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also, the other part of my role is that i deliver a package (mandatory) every day to someone. but i don't know what's in them. (i suspect that is what ##learn would tell me.) i delivered to koshi d1 so i would like to know what it was.
also, to the person who receives the next one, don't do anything stupid.
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On August 05 2017 05:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
ummmm i just got a pm. apparently there was a hosting fuckup and i actually saw 5 different people (koshi, btdt, ruxxar, cc, and myself) visit cc. i don't get what happened because i thought i was supposed to see who cc visited. but this is the new info i guess Это абсолютно против правил, если вы лжете
i hope i didn't accidentally break any rules but that is 100% the truth
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On August 05 2017 05:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 02:50 Tumblewood wrote:On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.
i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his. How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ? Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true. Other questions: Why did you visit cake ? Can you answer HF ? 1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself) 2. koshi isn't a watcher role? 3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
ummmm i just got a pm. apparently there was a hosting fuckup and i actually saw 5 different people (koshi, btdt, ruxxar, cc, and myself) visit cc. i don't get what happened because i thought i was supposed to see who cc visited. but this is the new info i guess Это не то, как работает трекер
that's what i thought too
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state of the union:
town (!!!)
va
btdt
conv
looks like town but it's not certain
hf
koshi
ruxxar
someone's gotta be scum
df
damdred
rels
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On August 05 2017 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
Возможно ли, что другой мастер трахал, что TW получил результаты Йоши?
idk. i've been considering that.
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On August 05 2017 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Разве это не подтверждает Йоши как наблюдателя / трекера, а также означает, что Ruxxar больше не является мафией? Кроме того, что damdred идет FLYING вверх по диаграммам scum для желающих линчевать кого угодно, кроме ruxxar сегодня.
yes this seems logical
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On August 05 2017 05:36 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Разве это не подтверждает Йоши как наблюдателя / трекера, а также означает, что Ruxxar больше не является мафией? Кроме того, что damdred идет FLYING вверх по диаграммам scum для желающих линчевать кого угодно, кроме ruxxar сегодня. yes this seems logical
there is also the possibility that koshi did not receive the right information originally. just something to consider
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On August 05 2017 05:38 Damdred wrote:
С tw новой информации не что изменить наше мнение в отношении Вести Земли Обетованной?
i don't know what you mean by news of the promised land
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On August 05 2017 05:40 Conversion wrote:
Alright clarification on my power- HF was NOT supposed to be in the QT this cycle.
I'm going to learn role this night most likely. also if TW isn't lying, doesn't Koshi look sus?
koshi says he doesn't know how he got that info, but the info was at least partially right, so it may have been another hosting mishap, but until i see what happened on his end i am assuming he is town. it's a highly unlikely fakeclaim
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On August 05 2017 05:45 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 04:48 darthfoley wrote:On August 05 2017 04:31 ruXxar wrote:Final list, mostly gut feelings. Townies: Koshi. Conversion. HF. BTDT. Darthfoley. ---- Possible scumsies: VA. TW. Rels. Damdred. --- WP scum, you're hiding yourselves well. Well that's it. Gonna go play some tekken on my new etokki. Enjoy the rest of the game folks!  Who do you trust most out of your townies? Were they in order? Sort of, but due to different reasons. I read Koshi and Conversion town due to their play. Never lynch. I read HF town mostly due to russian disease. It's more of a pity town read really. But could be anything. TW town due to his explanation right now, and basically getting confirmed town by rayn. BTDT is town due to tone, and straight forward play, but... his meta is like.. ive never seen him play like this before. He seems constantly agitated, like he is constantly on edge/angry at someone or something in life. If hes scum then hes playing really well and different this game from his previous scum game. DF youre town due to previously mentioned reasons. Your meta is a little bit different than last we played. A little less aggressive, pushy, scum hunting. Still youre flowing really well in your thoughts, so if youre scum youre playing well like I said. The people I feel like I have least reason to call town are damdred, rels and VA. VA I like because hes explaining his power, so hes probably town, if not, its a non-issue so I dont really care what alignment he is. ----- Damdred and Rels I know nothing about their powers. If they were willing to share then I might change my view, but theyre the most tight lipped about their powers, and I dont like that. Be sure to question them about it as the game goes on.So scum team could literally be damdred/rels Same goes for you DF, you should probably share some of what your power does to really nail your town status
i am in a similar spot. no longer comfortable with lynching ruxxar
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is it viable to save ruxxar with the people in thread right now? preferably onto damdred, rels, df
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On August 05 2017 05:55 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 05:43 Tumblewood wrote:On August 05 2017 05:40 Conversion wrote:
Alright clarification on my power- HF was NOT supposed to be in the QT this cycle.
I'm going to learn role this night most likely. also if TW isn't lying, doesn't Koshi look sus? koshi says he doesn't know how he got that info, but the info was at least partially right, so it may have been another hosting mishap, but until i see what happened on his end i am assuming he is town. it's a highly unlikely fakeclaim The thing that bugs me is that he was very sure that ruxxar was a liar because he saw BTDT but not ruxxar. why would he push something so hard on imperfect information, whether he knows or not? I didn't reveal anything about my role until I was at least sure seems fishy to me
he probably thought it was perfect information
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On August 05 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 01:32 Koshi wrote:On August 05 2017 00:19 ruXxar wrote:On August 05 2017 00:17 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then. Why do you say this Koshi? This was before I ever mentioned superbia. And why could I not have shot rsoul? Do you know something about rsoul that we don't? Probably kinda baiting to see reaction, and knowing it would be the more logical shot. I knew you didn't shoot CC but I didn't know if you were redirected or RB or w.e the fuck. If I asked if you shot Superbia you would say "no I shot CC" and then nothing would happen. By claiming you shot Superbia you would be more inclined to tell the truth if you were lieing because you would fear I know more. I just needed you to admit to lieing. I didn't activily think all this but that is probably why my mind told me to say it like that. Maybe I even townread you still back then and just thought you made a mistake or something. Knowing you scumread both CC and superbia. But then when you admitted to lieing it made you mafia. Koshi gave me this answer. I liked it.
ruxxar did u visit cc or not? i am confused
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On August 05 2017 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:On August 05 2017 01:32 Koshi wrote:On August 05 2017 00:19 ruXxar wrote:On August 05 2017 00:17 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then. Why do you say this Koshi? This was before I ever mentioned superbia. And why could I not have shot rsoul? Do you know something about rsoul that we don't? Probably kinda baiting to see reaction, and knowing it would be the more logical shot. I knew you didn't shoot CC but I didn't know if you were redirected or RB or w.e the fuck. If I asked if you shot Superbia you would say "no I shot CC" and then nothing would happen. By claiming you shot Superbia you would be more inclined to tell the truth if you were lieing because you would fear I know more. I just needed you to admit to lieing. I didn't activily think all this but that is probably why my mind told me to say it like that. Maybe I even townread you still back then and just thought you made a mistake or something. Knowing you scumread both CC and superbia. But then when you admitted to lieing it made you mafia. Koshi gave me this answer. I liked it. ruxxar did u visit cc or not? i am confused
like i get that you did but why say you didn't?
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i have been informed that koshi visited conversion. i do not know why i have been informed of this or why koshi visited conversion, but it happened.
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