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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 17:50 GMT
#2353
On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.

How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ?
Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true.
Other questions:
Why did you visit cake ?
Can you answer HF ?

1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself)
2. koshi isn't a watcher role?
3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.
4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 18:01 GMT
#2359
On August 05 2017 02:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:50 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.

How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ?
Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true.
Other questions:
Why did you visit cake ?
Can you answer HF ?

1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself)
2. koshi isn't a watcher role?
3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.
4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters

1. Well if you can't explain, why do you think he's lying ? Occam razor says he said what info he had. And he didn't try to trick ruxxar => ruxxar lied and then Koshi attacked him.
2. dunno. But he said he didn't know how he got the info.
3. mm OK.
4. OK.

i don't really think he's lying. i was accusatory in my initial post but it doesn't make sense to me that he's totally lying.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:12 GMT
#2388
ummmm i just got a pm. apparently there was a hosting fuckup and i actually saw 5 different people (koshi, btdt, ruxxar, cc, and myself) visit cc. i don't get what happened because i thought i was supposed to see who cc visited. but this is the new info i guess
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:20 GMT
#2389
so uh if anyone is still here i could use some help figuring out what the fuck happened
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:23 GMT
#2391
also, the other part of my role is that i deliver a package (mandatory) every day to someone. but i don't know what's in them. (i suspect that is what ##learn would tell me.) i delivered to koshi d1 so i would like to know what it was.
also, to the person who receives the next one, don't do anything stupid.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:24 GMT
#2392
On August 05 2017 05:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
ummmm i just got a pm. apparently there was a hosting fuckup and i actually saw 5 different people (koshi, btdt, ruxxar, cc, and myself) visit cc. i don't get what happened because i thought i was supposed to see who cc visited. but this is the new info i guess


Это абсолютно против правил, если вы лжете

i hope i didn't accidentally break any rules but that is 100% the truth
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:29 GMT
#2395
On August 05 2017 05:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:50 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.

How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ?
Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true.
Other questions:
Why did you visit cake ?
Can you answer HF ?

1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself)
2. koshi isn't a watcher role?
3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.
4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters


Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
ummmm i just got a pm. apparently there was a hosting fuckup and i actually saw 5 different people (koshi, btdt, ruxxar, cc, and myself) visit cc. i don't get what happened because i thought i was supposed to see who cc visited. but this is the new info i guess


Это не то, как работает трекер

that's what i thought too
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:33 GMT
#2399
state of the union:

town (!!!)
va
btdt
conv

looks like town but it's not certain
hf
koshi
ruxxar

someone's gotta be scum
df
damdred
rels
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:34 GMT
#2401
On August 05 2017 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
Возможно ли, что другой мастер трахал, что TW получил результаты Йоши?

idk. i've been considering that.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:36 GMT
#2403
On August 05 2017 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Разве это не подтверждает Йоши как наблюдателя / трекера, а также означает, что Ruxxar больше не является мафией? Кроме того, что damdred идет FLYING вверх по диаграммам scum для желающих линчевать кого угодно, кроме ruxxar сегодня.

yes this seems logical
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:37 GMT
#2405
On August 05 2017 05:36 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Разве это не подтверждает Йоши как наблюдателя / трекера, а также означает, что Ruxxar больше не является мафией? Кроме того, что damdred идет FLYING вверх по диаграммам scum для желающих линчевать кого угодно, кроме ruxxar сегодня.

yes this seems logical

there is also the possibility that koshi did not receive the right information originally. just something to consider
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:39 GMT
#2407
On August 05 2017 05:38 Damdred wrote:
С tw новой информации не что изменить наше мнение в отношении Вести Земли Обетованной?

i don't know what you mean by news of the promised land
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:43 GMT
#2412
On August 05 2017 05:40 Conversion wrote:
Alright clarification on my power- HF was NOT supposed to be in the QT this cycle.

I'm going to learn role this night most likely. also if TW isn't lying, doesn't Koshi look sus?

koshi says he doesn't know how he got that info, but the info was at least partially right, so it may have been another hosting mishap, but until i see what happened on his end i am assuming he is town. it's a highly unlikely fakeclaim
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:50 GMT
#2415
On August 05 2017 05:45 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 04:48 darthfoley wrote:
On August 05 2017 04:31 ruXxar wrote:
Final list, mostly gut feelings.

Townies:

Koshi.
Conversion.
HF.
BTDT.
Darthfoley.

----

Possible scumsies:

VA.
TW.
Rels.
Damdred.

---

WP scum, you're hiding yourselves well.

Well that's it.
Gonna go play some tekken on my new etokki.
Enjoy the rest of the game folks!


Who do you trust most out of your townies? Were they in order?


Sort of, but due to different reasons.

I read Koshi and Conversion town due to their play. Never lynch.

I read HF town mostly due to russian disease. It's more of a pity town read really. But could be anything.

TW town due to his explanation right now, and basically getting confirmed town by rayn.

BTDT is town due to tone, and straight forward play, but... his meta is like.. ive never seen him play like this before.
He seems constantly agitated, like he is constantly on edge/angry at someone or something in life. If hes scum then hes playing really well and different this game from his previous scum game.

DF youre town due to previously mentioned reasons. Your meta is a little bit different than last we played. A little less aggressive, pushy, scum hunting.
Still youre flowing really well in your thoughts, so if youre scum youre playing well like I said.

The people I feel like I have least reason to call town are damdred, rels and VA.

VA I like because hes explaining his power, so hes probably town, if not, its a non-issue so I dont really care what alignment he is.

-----

Damdred and Rels I know nothing about their powers.
If they were willing to share then I might change my view, but theyre the most tight lipped about their powers, and I dont like that.
Be sure to question them about it as the game goes on.

So scum team could literally be damdred/rels

Same goes for you DF, you should probably share some of what your power does to really nail your town status

i am in a similar spot. no longer comfortable with lynching ruxxar
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:55 GMT
#2420
is it viable to save ruxxar with the people in thread right now? preferably onto damdred, rels, df
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:56 GMT
#2422
On August 05 2017 05:55 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 05:43 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 05 2017 05:40 Conversion wrote:
Alright clarification on my power- HF was NOT supposed to be in the QT this cycle.

I'm going to learn role this night most likely. also if TW isn't lying, doesn't Koshi look sus?

koshi says he doesn't know how he got that info, but the info was at least partially right, so it may have been another hosting mishap, but until i see what happened on his end i am assuming he is town. it's a highly unlikely fakeclaim


The thing that bugs me is that he was very sure that ruxxar was a liar because he saw BTDT but not ruxxar. why would he push something so hard on imperfect information, whether he knows or not? I didn't reveal anything about my role until I was at least sure

seems fishy to me

he probably thought it was perfect information
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:58 GMT
#2424
On August 05 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 01:32 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2017 00:19 ruXxar wrote:
On August 05 2017 00:17 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt

Can you explain literally everything you did tonight?

I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded.


What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though.

You shot Superbia then.


Why do you say this Koshi?
This was before I ever mentioned superbia.


And why could I not have shot rsoul? Do you know something about rsoul that we don't?

Probably kinda baiting to see reaction, and knowing it would be the more logical shot. I knew you didn't shoot CC but I didn't know if you were redirected or RB or w.e the fuck. If I asked if you shot Superbia you would say "no I shot CC" and then nothing would happen. By claiming you shot Superbia you would be more inclined to tell the truth if you were lieing because you would fear I know more. I just needed you to admit to lieing.

I didn't activily think all this but that is probably why my mind told me to say it like that. Maybe I even townread you still back then and just thought you made a mistake or something. Knowing you scumread both CC and superbia. But then when you admitted to lieing it made you mafia.


Koshi gave me this answer.
I liked it.

ruxxar did u visit cc or not? i am confused
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:58 GMT
#2426
On August 05 2017 05:58 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:
On August 05 2017 01:32 Koshi wrote:
On August 05 2017 00:19 ruXxar wrote:
On August 05 2017 00:17 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt

Can you explain literally everything you did tonight?

I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded.


What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though.

You shot Superbia then.


Why do you say this Koshi?
This was before I ever mentioned superbia.


And why could I not have shot rsoul? Do you know something about rsoul that we don't?

Probably kinda baiting to see reaction, and knowing it would be the more logical shot. I knew you didn't shoot CC but I didn't know if you were redirected or RB or w.e the fuck. If I asked if you shot Superbia you would say "no I shot CC" and then nothing would happen. By claiming you shot Superbia you would be more inclined to tell the truth if you were lieing because you would fear I know more. I just needed you to admit to lieing.

I didn't activily think all this but that is probably why my mind told me to say it like that. Maybe I even townread you still back then and just thought you made a mistake or something. Knowing you scumread both CC and superbia. But then when you admitted to lieing it made you mafia.


Koshi gave me this answer.
I liked it.

ruxxar did u visit cc or not? i am confused

like i get that you did but why say you didn't?
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 20:59 GMT
#2427
ah well
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 21:22 GMT
#2435
i have been informed that koshi visited conversion. i do not know why i have been informed of this or why koshi visited conversion, but it happened.
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