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I keep going back to the question of why mafia would nk rsoul.
First rsoul gets the russian disease.
Then she gets nked.
Rsoul was not really pushing anyone to the point of being a threat besides damdred, so why was she silenced and killed?
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The only one she seriously wanted to lynch was damdred.
Damdred responded and managed to win her back.
A possibility however is that damdred is afraid that since rsoul knows him so well, she'd eventually look past his faked emotions and see that he really is scum.
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If we disregard that, and look at after the silencing, why go through with killing her?
In my eyes HF is a more dangerous player to mafia than rsoul is.
If HF and Rsoul are both town and they both have the russian disease, why is rsoul killed instead of HF?
The possibility remains that HF is scum and maybe even the source of the disease.
Could also be he is 3P.
Either way, I now kinda wish I had shot HF beause I think it would clear up a lot regarding the source of the russian disease.
Seeing as he was the first source of it, and he received it on D1 during the day, it's impossible to tell if it was mafia that infected him, or if it's part of his role as mafia/3P to actually spread it.
I can see both sides being true, but it's still bothering me.
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This doesn't make much sense either.
Silencing and killing seems like 2 separate and redundant actions.
If you've done the first, there's no need for the second.
This seems to suggest that perhaps there is a different source for the disease and the killing, or that the killing was not due to mafia at all.
I can not see how killing rsoul was in any way optimal for mafia due to her play and her already russian disease.
This brings me to think that it's her role and powers they were afraid of.
It might be something she crumbed and her interaction with conversion.
The fact that conversion offered something to rsoul could be part of the reason why she's dead.
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ASKDALSKDLKASDKASLD i really want to talk with you HF but the russian is so UGHHHHHHH. You're like the only one that cares right now. fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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On August 04 2017 19:10 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred (2): beentheredonethat, ruXxar
Вы говорите, что в городе есть ваш бесконечный KP, rsoultin kp, а также теперь Ruxxar kp? Почему вы голосуете у фургона?
I'm voting on damdred because he's the most scummy person in my mind right now.
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On August 04 2017 20:30 Holyflare wrote:
Лучший случай прямо сейчас на двух других игроков, которые я сделал.
Damdred быть мафией, потому что он не думает о вас и не является мафией. Если вы город, это похлопывание, которое проклят мафией, потому что он относится к вам как к ошибке, а не к приятелям мафии.
Затем сообщение TW. Это так неестественно. Вероятно, очень вероятная мафия тоже.
Yes the TW message is a huge red flag.
It's like aha! I caught you! ... then nothing.
What's even more suspect is that no one else seems to be picking up on it LOL.
Why does no one care? Blows my mind.
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On August 04 2017 20:32 Holyflare wrote:
То, что делает вас самой мафией, - это просто дико выбрасывать городские чтения вместо того, чтобы искать мотивацию мафии. Я опубликовал два хороших примера, и вы просто проигнорировали, чтобы попытаться заставить вас голосовать за вас.
I'm looking for mafia motivation, and it's really hard.
In this game, more than any I have played, I see town in almost every person.
It's so ambigious and with all the roles and 3P it's really easy to blend in stuff.
Like, I can't even get a read on since I don't understand half of what you're saying.
Looking for mafia motivations when a lot of people have secondary win conditions is like ????
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On August 04 2017 20:30 Holyflare wrote:
Лучший случай прямо сейчас на двух других игроков, которые я сделал.
Damdred быть мафией, потому что он не думает о вас и не является мафией. Если вы город, это похлопывание, которое проклят мафией, потому что он относится к вам как к ошибке, а не к приятелям мафии.
Затем сообщение TW. Это так неестественно. Вероятно, очень вероятная мафия тоже.
Yes, I think some people are treating me like I'm not mafia at all.
Especially damdred didn't even seem to comment on my fake claim at all and just jumped straight at my interaction with VA, who he was previously townreading for caring about game mechanics.
I even told him once, and yet he still wants to lynch VA.
Why is he afraid that VA is going to live when it's a 100% non-issue that will resolve itself automatically?
The only thing he can be afraid of is that the LSD gives some kind of different power.
Maybe he is afraid VA is a mafia that gets a role check ability with LSD.
Either way, there's way bigger problems to worry about than that.
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On August 04 2017 20:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 20:02 Holyflare wrote:On August 04 2017 02:36 Holyflare wrote:On August 04 2017 02:26 Tumblewood wrote:
nothing is lining up. conversion looks super town, and rels is looking townish, but there's gotta be more than one mafia in this game.
all i know is that today i wanna lynch ruxxar, because he's scummy as fuck. but idk after that On August 04 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:On August 03 2017 18:36 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 18:33 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:13 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 18:12 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:
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What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then. You're right. I shot superbia. I used vodka + matches on copcake. You didn't because you didn't visit her. I absolutely did. You DIDN'T BECAUSE I WATCHED CC. I saw CC visit CC and saw btdt visit CC. That means you are untrackable but not know it yourself. Probably need to learn it. ##vote Ruxxar wait a fuckin second. i visited cc too Если бы это было наоборот, это имело бы смысл. Но здесь Тумблвуд намекает, что он догнал и прочитал, а затем потом чудесным образом вытащил коши цитату? Я не покупаю его. Это лучшее, что можно прочитать в игре. Признайте меня сэмпаем.
Yes it's scummy as fuck, but what are you gonna do? Can't do much more than wait for him to show up and explain it.
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On August 04 2017 20:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:On August 03 2017 18:36 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 18:33 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:13 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 18:12 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then. You're right. I shot superbia. I used vodka + matches on copcake. You didn't because you didn't visit her. I absolutely did. You DIDN'T BECAUSE I WATCHED CC. I saw CC visit CC and saw btdt visit CC. That means you are untrackable but not know it yourself. Probably need to learn it. ##vote Ruxxar wait a fuckin second. i visited cc too lul what
What so disturbing about it is like he didn't event finish his thought.
Did mafia in QT tell him to drop it?
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I mean, on the surface it seems like he wanted to present some sort of defense of me and throw scum on koshi???
That makes no sense as scum though, since me dying is good for mafia and no defense of me is going to be believable due to my current situation.
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On August 04 2017 21:11 Rels wrote:
Like ruxxar I'm really sorry if you're town 'cause it would mean you're giving your best and you're probably the dude with the most posts today. But I don't see why town would lie about that. That just makes no sense.
I know it doesn't. I'm not sad to get lynched. Please don't speak ill of me after I'm dead, I know it was really bad 
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On August 04 2017 21:05 Rels wrote:
the only goodf thing in the two cases against Damdred is the bit about how he wants to flip VA. ALl the rest I can see him doing from a perspective of a confused town.
I really don't understand why he wants to flip VA that much though. Even before ruxxar it seems like.
The other thing that have been bothering me is that he became russian. Not to brag, but Koshi or me were better targets if the goal of the russian giver is to stop good town from talking too much. In that contexte IDK why Damdred was targeted.
This is a good point.
There's no reason for mafia to give damdred the russian disease.
There's also no reason to give rsoul the russian disease AND kill her.
I don't think the russian disease and mafia is related.
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On August 04 2017 21:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
Ruxxar is town. I am 99% sure.
Also I am gone now I won't be there until tomorrow.
I am 99% town, but you're not going to give any reasons or try to defend me?
That's very convenient position to be in if you're scum.
Either explain why I'm town or call me scum, you don't get any town cred points for that read at all.
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On August 04 2017 07:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
It's funny that Ruxxar is scum reading Damdred for completely other reasons than I do
On August 04 2017 21:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
Ruxxar is town. I am 99% sure.
Also I am gone now I won't be there until tomorrow.
???
Are these posts saying two opposite things?
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On August 04 2017 22:23 Damdred wrote:
Я не уверен в том, если некоторые, если не все нюансы te, что я хочу сказать теряется в переводе (возможно).
Я не обязательно нужно перевернуть VA сегодня, я думаю hes стоит в настоящее время в силу его странное взаимодействие с его судите читать.
TW также полезно взглянуть на и честно было бы целесообразно Линч сегодня.
Why don't you want to lynch me damdred?
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On August 04 2017 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
Damdred, если вы город, то почему rayn делает еще одну роль в городе, чтобы стрелять в вас? И тогда почему у него есть еще две роли kp вместе с предметами и сделать их городом тоже?
И тогда ты сказал, что ты коп, не так ли? А ва коп? Так что же делать мафии в этой игре? Просто заставить людей говорить по-русски?
Like I said, this game is not balanced by KP at all.
We know for a fact Rsoul had a gun.
I know for a fact that I have a gun.
BTDT may or may not have a gun, but copcake being dead points towards it being true.
It's not a good argument to use in this game.
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On August 04 2017 23:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2017 21:00 Rels wrote:On August 04 2017 04:55 Koshi wrote:
Ok so Damdred seems to know why I watched CC?
Or is he saying mafia made me see what I saw, because it is confirmed that what I saw is true. There might just be things I didn't see. this is confusing I don't understand what Damdred is saying.
What is your opinion on TW saying he visited CC?
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On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then.
Why do you say this Koshi?
This was before I ever mentioned superbia.
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On August 05 2017 00:17 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then. Why do you say this Koshi? This was before I ever mentioned superbia.
And why could I not have shot rsoul? Do you know something about rsoul that we don't?
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Like this is the exact order:
On August 03 2017 17:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
Dear everyone, when you think about the night kills, please keep in mind that CopCake was shot by town, making Superbia and rsoultin potential targets of scum KP.
On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though.
On August 03 2017 18:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 17:58 ruXxar wrote:On August 03 2017 17:54 beentheredonethat wrote:On August 03 2017 17:28 Koshi wrote:
##vote btdt
Can you explain literally everything you did tonight? I wanted to shoot darthfoley because I was paranoid but switched to CopCake. I killed her and now I'm fairly useless because my role said as long as I shoot scum, I get refunded. What a coincidence, since I also shot her. No refunds for me though. You shot Superbia then.
Where do you get the idea that I shot superbia?
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