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On July 31 2017 07:44 Tumblewood wrote: i have a role now. that is all i will say about it until further notice
Do you have an opinion about how we should scum hunt so far this game?
Is Ruxx right that we can throw out the first 24 hours, or do you think Cake might be onto something and scum knew their alignment right off?
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On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote: Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns.
Yea I kinda get this. Not sure about "having confirmed towns" though. Also not sure why that makes Cake's pov scummy.
Like the whole point of mafia is a small group of people having info vs a large group who are in the dark. Is there really THAT much difference between a normal "Vanilla Town" PM and a "You don't know" PM?
Besides the extra bit of confusion, ofc.
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On July 31 2017 08:07 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 08:02 Tictock wrote:On July 31 2017 07:44 Tumblewood wrote: i have a role now. that is all i will say about it until further notice Do you have an opinion about how we should scum hunt so far this game? Is Ruxx right that we can throw out the first 24 hours, or do you think Cake might be onto something and scum knew their alignment right off? I am not tumble but I feel like taking a crack at this. 1) Honestly we shoudl forget about the role shenanigans that is going on and we should just try to play normally, there is a lot of times that theme'd games just devolve into a mechanics guessing game and town loses because of it.2) Until we got our pm i think we can throw out, or ignore it. Unless a real argument could be made when as far as we know 100% of town didn't know what was going on and everything was trolling to start with.
Yes this is a fair point. Though this has already been the majority of the game (talking about the lack of alignment knowledge).
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I think we can safely assume everyone has been given an alignment/role at this point in the game.
Unfortunately I don't feel like I have any reads yet, so I suppose I'll go do something else until more people have a chance to post now that alignments should be known.
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On July 31 2017 05:43 ruXxar wrote: Comrades, I have received news that I have been appropriated as a legal citizen of the great arstotzka. This is a most enjoyus day of all, that I have waited for all my life.
Glory to Arstotzka.
On July 31 2017 09:07 ruXxar wrote: As mentioned earlier I am very glad to announce that I have been granted the honor of becoming a native citizen of arstotzka.
They have provided me with a nice little house with everything I need. Enough heating to keep me warm and enough food to not go hungry.
They seem to however have forgotten to include a box of matches to light up the gas stove. If nobody helps out, I'll have to eat my food raw.
I can't wait to tell my wife the great news.
Glory to Arstotzka
The 3 hour gap between you being granted citizenship and this request strikes me as a bit odd.
However in the interest of good relations between nations, I will lend aid.
##Give Item to Player: Box of Matches to Ruxxar
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On July 31 2017 13:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote: so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started Didn't read the entire thread while trying to come off as he did. Gut says ctrl-F on finding his name on a scum list. Fine lynch. Aaaaand that's all I've got time for this morning. Though, unrelated, TT is that how to give items?
No idea, it wasn't specified to me how to give items so I went with what made sense to me.
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On July 31 2017 14:22 rsoultin wrote:Yeeeah Cake was scum in Slam's game. Really not sure I've seen her town game at all lol >< pfffffft. I certainly don't remember if I have. Also not 100% sure why this feels towny to me, but it kind of does? Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 09:18 Tumblewood wrote: i'm hesitant to do things just because i can do things I don't know, it just doesn't feel like something scum would think to post, I guess? Weak but whatevs. Rest of the filter I'm waffly on though, so I guess disregard for now. Okaaaay will stop spamming now...kind of sad no one is around to talk to :/ Only have a few minutes left.
I kinda like this read actually.
It would be weird for scum to tell us they can do something but refuse to do it at the same time. More likely they just say nothing.
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On July 31 2017 14:47 CopCake wrote: I just went to check, you are right he said that before Superbia said he was PR but I still dont understand his "?"
He was confused because Super just quoted his earlier post to indicate he had now received a real role.
Unfortunately you all got this a little mixed up and so most of the discussion for this page is kinda moot.
Rsoul does have a point though that Cake never did give much indication that she got an updated role.
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On July 31 2017 14:53 CopCake wrote:Oh I find my reasons to scumread ruxxar to be right, just a different point if view. Also remember the newspaper said the first 24 hrs were not in vain, that makes me think my theory of mafia knowing who they were since the start is right  I can also play the "I have played with you before" card and say that town!rsoultin would try to understand cake.
Why do you inherently trust that paper? Could be full of propaganda.
In response to Rsoul asking for thoughts on Convo. Not sure yet, I think his posts were from before real roles went out. His summary of the game was a touch scewed but not sure that's scummy.
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On July 31 2017 17:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 07:37 Tictock wrote: I return to Arstotzka in the hopes of establishing good relations between the newly established nation of Deserving People Requesting Kinship (DPRK for short) and Arstotzka. As the Elected Official of DPRK it is my duty to extend our hand of friendship to all Arstotzkians and it is my hope that we have a long and productive relationship.
However, while my objective is one of peace, I must warn that DPRK is prepared to defend itself and though we are only recently established we demand to be taken seriously. Do not threaten or disrespect the strong people of DPRK as we are prepared to respond with the strongest means available.
I'm requesting entry into Arstotzka to officially begin peaceful talks between our two great nations.
##Next!
Glory to Arstotzka!
Long live DPRK!
Yes we have Blackjack and Hookers I am assuming this is RPing till I hear otherwise. Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 08:07 Damdred wrote:On July 31 2017 08:02 Tictock wrote:On July 31 2017 07:44 Tumblewood wrote: i have a role now. that is all i will say about it until further notice Do you have an opinion about how we should scum hunt so far this game? Is Ruxx right that we can throw out the first 24 hours, or do you think Cake might be onto something and scum knew their alignment right off? I am not tumble but I feel like taking a crack at this. 1) Honestly we shoudl forget about the role shenanigans that is going on and we should just try to play normally, there is a lot of times that theme'd games just devolve into a mechanics guessing game and town loses because of it. 2) Until we got our pm i think we can throw out, or ignore it. Unless a real argument could be made when as far as we know 100% of town didn't know what was going on and everything was trolling to start with. Not a fan of this post. Says nothing and I don't agree with point 2.
You are correct.
Prob too early but these 2 posts from Koshi give me weak Town vibes.
That is as far as I am able to get on this break. I will continue to catchup on reading as work allows.
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On July 31 2017 18:22 Superbia wrote:I like fluff HF, but at some point today I'm going to expect you to switch from trolly to serious mode. 
I have neither the ability nor the patience to figure out what is going on in his posts. Sounds like he is just posting news articles though.
So thus far 90% of his filter is RP not really relevant to the game.
I assume this is related to his role, but at this rate he is just an unreadable slot that will have to be felt with. I'm rather not have to waste a lynch on a coinflips though.
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Lack of time is not going well for me. I'm about 10 pages behind ATM.
I have weak Town reads on Rsoul and Koshi ATM and a proxy townread on Tumble. That's about it
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On July 31 2017 19:13 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 18:59 Koshi wrote:On July 31 2017 18:58 beentheredonethat wrote: I am ignoring Holyflare at this point and I am fine with removing him from the game. It's a themed game so lighten up. Unless you see something I don't see that makes him mafia? Point still is to catch scum, he's actively avoiding that.
Humm first you say you are ignoring him but are fine removing him, now it sounds like you think what HF is doing is a scum strategy.
Which is it?
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On July 31 2017 21:52 Conversion wrote: hey you all wanted me to be active so give me a short list of who else is scum instead of piggybacking one mistake
how about you actually help town progress by actively scumhunting and questioning obvious inactives?
You are getting overly defensive and deflecting here...
What would you ask the "inactives"? How is it a good use of our time to focus on people who aren't even here?
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On July 31 2017 22:08 VayneAuthority wrote: is there any reason to change my vote? Tictock has like a page of filter about HF's roleplay since then and he gave a box of matches to ruxxar who is not that townie. Box of matches is bad.
Does any of that make me scum?
I doubt this is an accurate summary of my filter but I can't be bothered to check.
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Well apparently I didn't actually give ruxx the matches since what I typed in game was not the correct way to pass an item. I'll prob still give them to ruxx because they have no apparent use for myself and it might make something happen. I pointed out myself that this might be a bad idea kus Ruxx took 3 hours to make the request for them which to me suggests he needed to think about how/if to ask for them.
I am a man of my word though, and bad idea or not I said I would give Ruxx the matches, so I will.
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VA is hypocrit. He scum reads me for giving away an item to ruxx yet has been asking for things himself.
I also don't get this connection he is drawing between Rux and myself. He suggests that we are somehow coordinating this item thing via a QT or something but then says one of us should be flipped to figure it out.
I'd also like to know how he knows anything about these matches when I myself have no clue what they could be used for.
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I don't like Damdred's read on me. Calling me lackluster is a copout read imo. Not sure what he is expecting of me when I've been clear about my time constraints and it's also been ages since I have played. He should also be fairly aware that I've been mislynched as Town before for being "lackluster"
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##Vote: VayneAuthority
VA and Damdred are who stand out to me ATM, but I feel better about a VA lynch for now.
Besides OMGUS the only thing I have against Damdred is he isn't standing out as Town to me like he often does. Neither of those are strong enough for a vote imo.
I could go either way with Ruxx ATM. Would be interested to hear why Koshi has him as lock Town.
Conversion is another one I'm unsure about. I really disliked his reactions to being pressured earlier and his opening did feel a bit off. Scummy side of null is where I'd put him if I had an actual list right now.
BtDt has been pretty active and engaged but a few of his reads feel off to me. I think the main thing hat stuck out to me was the bit on HF. I'd be more cautious about Town reading him than most have been thus far.
I think Rsoul, Cake, and Koshi are my easy Town reads for now. Cake and Rsoul for effort and pushing their own thoughts, Koshi more for tone.
Tumble seems Town, he can have a pass for now.
Everyone else (DF, and whoever else I'm forgetting right this second) I just don't have enough on to make a read on.
I also eagerly await anything from Rels with an alignment.
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On August 01 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2017 13:56 rsoultin wrote:On August 01 2017 13:53 Tictock wrote: I don't like Damdred's read on me. Calling me lackluster is a copout read imo. Not sure what he is expecting of me when I've been clear about my time constraints and it's also been ages since I have played. He should also be fairly aware that I've been mislynched as Town before for being "lackluster" -squints at- Have you? Aren't you the guy I scummed with in that newbie game? Tinfoil hat man? When it was me, you and my brother having fun and wrecking face? Or do I have the wrong player? God my memory's awful after so long away lol >< ROFL >< It was tubesock. Now I'm rhyming people and getting them confused that way ;o;
Me you and GB rolled scum one game and did fairly well. Though it was you who carried us to the win.
I'm not half bad as scum, but my play as both alignments can vary pretty wildly.
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