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On July 31 2017 04:19 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 02:20 CopCake wrote:
I do think that mafia knows who they are and are in quicktopic deciding what to do. Now look at the game with that perspective and from the first 3 pages who look weird. You; because you do think that but you apparently don't care about who exactly claims to not know his alignment and who doesn't do so. In your world, everyone who claims to not have a unclear alignment right now should be lynched with fire and everyone who claimed to have that alignment is confirmed town (especially the guys who were the first to claim) But you don't really care for these people, since you didn't even bother to go back and look who claimed first (= confirmed town in your eyes). So if you think that this is the world we're in, then you should definitely act accordingly. I think you don't act accordingly. I think you're trying to do what a town person would do but since you're scum and you do know that there's a QT with scum members in, you're tryharding to emulate a town person. ##vote CopCape
This is dumb. I ofc checked EACH post which is why even Tina said I am nitpicking, nice try scum.
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Ok I am trying to understand this.
So Tina thinks I am "mafia" because I have a "guide" or seem like I know what I am doing.
This beentheredonethat jumps in the bus and agrees because "Yeah I agree wood how do you know there is quick topic"
So for me, in my point of view
1.- If you don't know what you are you are vanilla
2.- I assume there is a quick topic because all games mafia have one, which is a super bad argument from beentheredonethat
I don't know my role and there is only ONE person in this thread that has been open about his role and is the only one that is town 100% and if you don't figure out who that was then you didn't get the same role pm as the one who don't have one.
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I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this.
You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his.
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On July 31 2017 05:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 05:06 CopCake wrote:
I am not trying to change your mind, I am trying to understand your point of view because it doesn't make sense. I already explained I am playing this as a vanilla town and that I assume there is a mafia quick topic because mafia ALWAYS get to chat with their team unless lone wolf. Those two things are easy to assume and it is how i think we should be playing this.
You are asking me to back myself with reasons when your reasons (again in my point of view) are poor and beentheredonethat are even worse since they are yours, not his. No, I'm asking you to provide reasons if you think we're mafia. You called him scum. You haven't said anything about me directly indicating what you think I am. But sure, I'll explain my reasoning. Maybe others don't understand it, either. I'm not sure that mafiosos know their alignment yet, and I do find it weird that you're as sure as you portray yourself to be. In my mind you should be like me, not sure of anything. That alone isn't enough to make you scum, of course. You're not me. People can be ridiculously attached to their unfounded assumptions. But I also find your nitpicky 'scum-hunting' to be grating. What makes Holyflare's post scummy and not a joke? (I'm still not sure if it's part of the game or not, and I got named 'passport official' lol). What makes ruxxar's post scummy when you claim to have the same role pm, where alignments and roles are unknown? Of course to him it's possible that he could be scum. Maybe town Cake thinks that way and I'm wrong, but I don't think so. In short, you're certainly the most interesting poster in the thread right now. So assuming anyone knows something about anything (which I will allow makes more sense than 24 hours of everyone knowing jack shit, though I wouldn't put the latter past Joni), my money's on you, babe. (Yeeeeaaahh actually going to sleep for real now lol ><)
I don't think you are mafia because you are acting in a very "rsoultin" verse way btw and I see people approaching you to win your side instead of the opposite and make their own points (Ruxxar, beentheredonethat).
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On July 31 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:
so far lots of yelling about lynch vs no lynch, for some reason HF became the protagonist of papers please, and one person thinks I'm mafia bc I'm a dumbass and didn't check for when this game started
Where?
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Oh I skipped that part
Hi Scummate
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On July 31 2017 06:37 Conversion wrote:
I'm not scum-- how dare you insinuate that I am scum. I will smite you down with my fiery, passive internet mafia posting skillz if you call me that again.
Don't get triggered with a joke. Rsoultin thinks I am scum (according to her she has the best arguments against me) so that's why I said that.
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On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 07:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:35 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 01:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
This whole game is hard to play under the assumption that everyone's alignments are unknown. So I will assume right now that not everyone's alignment is unknown.
Soooo who knows his alignment yet? You seem very concerned with this question. Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern. Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h. In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. Yup. This is objectively the best idea.
I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him.
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On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 06:46 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 06:36 ruXxar wrote:
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Why shouldnt he be? Its a perfectly valid concern. Not really. It'll be resolved when it's resolved. I trust our Great Leaders of Arstotzka and I will not question them. Its a pretty important part of the game that has a big impact on how you play. It's also very unusual, so it being a topic of interest shouldn't be a surprise. What is interesting is whether or not mafia got to know their alignment from the start. People not knowing their alignment means that you cannot evaluate their play as mafia no matter how scummy they look. I just don't see the point of the question. We were not given a role at the start of the game. Why would anyone in the minority who may have gotten a defined role would ever admit to it and single themselves out. Seems like a "I'm helping the town" question that's relatively useless especially at this point in the game The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid. Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h. In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. Yup. This is objectively the best idea. I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him. Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h. I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that.
No, no, no.
Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start.
If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia.
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On July 31 2017 07:32 Superbia wrote:
Gimme some material to work with for tomo plz :3
Post #244 and #245
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On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:15 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:On July 31 2017 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
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The question may be pointless in itself, but the concern is valid.
Do you think it's scummy? Yea I think it's scummy. One for context, and two because I want btdt to call me names and rage I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h. In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. Yup. This is objectively the best idea. I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him. Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h. I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that. No, no, no. Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start. If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia. Why are you so convinced of this. That is quite scummy. What is scummy about it? It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless. Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out. Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start). Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns.
This is so dumb, Mafia can pretend to do not know a thing, you know?
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On July 31 2017 08:25 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 08:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:54 Tictock wrote:On July 31 2017 07:30 ruXxar wrote:On July 31 2017 07:27 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:23 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:21 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 07:18 Superbia wrote:On July 31 2017 07:15 ruXxar wrote:
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I've decided to not judge anyone for their play within the first 24h.
In that context, I don't really care what anyone has said. Yup. This is objectively the best idea. I was about to ask you what you think of Ruxxar but it seems you agree with him. Ruxxar town conv mafia post24h. I thought you/rels were p townie first 24h but who cares bout that. No, no, no. Look, I am looking at this game with the perspective that mafia knew who they were since the start. If that perspective is the right one, then Ruxxar is mafia. Why are you so convinced of this. That is quite scummy. What is scummy about it? It's a fairly reasonable pov, given that a game of mafia where nobody knows their alignment is pretty pointless. Like you seem to be insiuating that Cake is scum for stating that scum knew their alignment right off. But if cake is scum and knew it early on, then she is really just calling herself out. Personally I find both possibilities quite likely, and while I'm more inclined to agree with you that the first 24 hours are pretty moot I don't see a problem with at least considering the World that Cake is living in (where scum where aware from the start). Because the game would be mad town favored if everyone who didn't get an alignment from the start were town... we'd already have multiple confirmed towns. This is so dumb, Mafia can pretend to do not know a thing, you know? I expect a mafia to type "I am town" not "I don't know my alignment" if they got a mafia role PM. It's a very unique thing to write, and they wouldn't catch on until a couple people wrote it already. Your argument doesn't make any sense.
Excuse me I don't understand your point.
What if the host told mafia "No one knows your pm but you" Ofc Mafia would write "I don't know my role" if not then Town would have a HUGE advantage ^^ and that would make Holy Flair mafia in your world if that was the case.
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Ok, I'm going to try to live in a world in which no one knew their alignment.
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On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.)
Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update?
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On July 31 2017 14:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:24 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.) Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update? Lol, yup. You telling me I missed something?
Just answer me You are saying I didnt react to roles updated?
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On July 31 2017 14:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2017 14:28 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:26 rsoultin wrote:On July 31 2017 14:24 CopCake wrote:On July 31 2017 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Ya know what, scrap this lol ><
hf/ruxxar/va/super all react to updated pms
cake/df/conv/btdt also in thread at the time don't <- conv may not matter if he's being truthful about 'not knowing' when the game started
Could be coincidental but then again...you guys can ignore the parts of my reads that come from the first 24 hours if you want, but all the probabilities at this point indicate that scum may very well have already known their alignment, however much that puts them at a disadvantage. I'm not discounting the first 24 hours -shrugs-
Though I still think I'd rather lynch Conversion right now...
Damdred, what is this secret read you're sitting on, btw?
(Yeeeeeah was gonna go to work early since Lex left early but I'm not actually sure the doors would be open at 7...that would be an unfortunate waste of time. Will be around to talk for about half an hour after all.) Before I answer you about what I do think about town rsoutling please tell me one thing... You are saying HERE in the bolded part that I didnt react to roles update? Lol, yup. You telling me I missed something? Just answer me You are saying I didnt react to roles updated? Yup means yes.
You are lying, I reacted to them, even asked superbia to check ^^ the posts 425 and the next one I think when Superbia quotes himself with the hard claiming a power role and Ruxar wrote "?" Because he probably didnt get a role pm which means that as mafia ^^ he already knew his status.
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But for whatever reason Idk why you have Ruxxar as someone that reacted to role pms when he didnt, like he was confused when Superbia got his pm and didnt know what he was talking about.
If Ruxxar ls scum you are scum now. You are trying to save him in my eyes and looking for excuses to make me look scummy when I have given reasons in the thread Why I suspected Ruxxar, even said I prefered a ruxxar lynch than a HF one, not just the "now" and "if" comments.
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