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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 17:31 GMT
#2341
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.
good times for all
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 04 2017 17:31 GMT
#2342
On August 05 2017 00:23 beentheredonethat wrote:
If the following happens:
1. ruxxar flips town
2. HF/Koshi start pushing me
3. I get lynched over Damdred

Then direct all KP you have to Holyflare and Koshi if they keep staying alive.


Don't worry about this
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 04 2017 17:32 GMT
#2343
Он «протаранил голубую таблетку на мое горло», это означает, что вчера вечером меня поменяли местами / автобусом, потенциально связанным с btdt.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 17:38 GMT
#2344
On August 05 2017 02:29 Conversion wrote:
and if anyone wants to know why I picked HF over rsoultin for my "choice" power:

I already have a very strong town read on rsoultin for her play on D1, but didn't for HF since he had to speak Russian soon after I became focused on the game.

also I didn't know whether to try giving the choice to them, or someone that wasn't speaking until rsoultin posted this (translated) message:

Show nested quote +

The report says that I forgot how to speak English, and I must speak Russian in a game topic until further notice.

It also says that I can speak English in QT outside the game stream, if I have it.

This suggests that there are 3p or QT, which are not bad guys QT, or maybe just give bad guys the opportunity to speak Russian.

I do not know why this would be useful for 3p. (And my ego likes being targeted at bad guys.)

Was I the only one who translated the appeal as an offer to shoot me? This is not a cure.


so I wanted to figure out HF without going through some language BS, and gave him the choice. During N1 I used the other part of my role (once/cycle power) on BTDT. HF was telling me he never got a choice (which threw me off), and BTDT entered with an alias, and said he wasn't HF. So halfway past D2 I used my the power I used on BTDT (once BTDT cleared himself in the QT) on HF, and here we are now


Thanks, It makes sense now, although it's quite a complicated mechanics.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 17:40 GMT
#2345
So the QT is basically NAI.
Back to the drawing board...
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 17:41 GMT
#2346
Oh and I think you are even more town now conversion.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 04 2017 17:42 GMT
#2347
addendum to the reason why I was so confused was because I thought red pill = real world, which is why I thought the choice = accessibility to the real world.

as HF said, I "rammed" blue pills down their throats, which actually means blue pill = real world.

and basically I wasted all of D2 figuring out wtf was going on with my role
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 04 2017 17:42 GMT
#2348
On August 05 2017 02:29 Conversion wrote:
and if anyone wants to know why I picked HF over rsoultin for my "choice" power:

I already have a very strong town read on rsoultin for her play on D1, but didn't for HF since he had to speak Russian soon after I became focused on the game.

also I didn't know whether to try giving the choice to them, or someone that wasn't speaking until rsoultin posted this (translated) message:

Show nested quote +

The report says that I forgot how to speak English, and I must speak Russian in a game topic until further notice.

It also says that I can speak English in QT outside the game stream, if I have it.

This suggests that there are 3p or QT, which are not bad guys QT, or maybe just give bad guys the opportunity to speak Russian.

I do not know why this would be useful for 3p. (And my ego likes being targeted at bad guys.)

Was I the only one who translated the appeal as an offer to shoot me? This is not a cure.


so I wanted to figure out HF without going through some language BS, and gave him the choice. During N1 I used the other part of my role (once/cycle power) on BTDT. HF was telling me he never got a choice (which threw me off), and BTDT entered with an alias, and said he wasn't HF. So halfway past D2 I used my the power I used on BTDT (once BTDT cleared himself in the QT) on HF, and here we are now

since you specifically invited BTDT to your QT, why were you confused when the dude in your QT said he wasn't HF ?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 04 2017 17:42 GMT
#2349
On August 05 2017 02:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:29 Conversion wrote:
and if anyone wants to know why I picked HF over rsoultin for my "choice" power:

I already have a very strong town read on rsoultin for her play on D1, but didn't for HF since he had to speak Russian soon after I became focused on the game.

also I didn't know whether to try giving the choice to them, or someone that wasn't speaking until rsoultin posted this (translated) message:


The report says that I forgot how to speak English, and I must speak Russian in a game topic until further notice.

It also says that I can speak English in QT outside the game stream, if I have it.

This suggests that there are 3p or QT, which are not bad guys QT, or maybe just give bad guys the opportunity to speak Russian.

I do not know why this would be useful for 3p. (And my ego likes being targeted at bad guys.)

Was I the only one who translated the appeal as an offer to shoot me? This is not a cure.


so I wanted to figure out HF without going through some language BS, and gave him the choice. During N1 I used the other part of my role (once/cycle power) on BTDT. HF was telling me he never got a choice (which threw me off), and BTDT entered with an alias, and said he wasn't HF. So halfway past D2 I used my the power I used on BTDT (once BTDT cleared himself in the QT) on HF, and here we are now

since you specifically invited BTDT to your QT, why were you confused when the dude in your QT said he wasn't HF ?


read above
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 04 2017 17:45 GMT
#2350
On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.

How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ?
Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true.
Other questions:
Why did you visit cake ?
Can you answer HF ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 04 2017 17:46 GMT
#2351
On August 05 2017 02:42 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:42 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:29 Conversion wrote:
and if anyone wants to know why I picked HF over rsoultin for my "choice" power:

I already have a very strong town read on rsoultin for her play on D1, but didn't for HF since he had to speak Russian soon after I became focused on the game.

also I didn't know whether to try giving the choice to them, or someone that wasn't speaking until rsoultin posted this (translated) message:


The report says that I forgot how to speak English, and I must speak Russian in a game topic until further notice.

It also says that I can speak English in QT outside the game stream, if I have it.

This suggests that there are 3p or QT, which are not bad guys QT, or maybe just give bad guys the opportunity to speak Russian.

I do not know why this would be useful for 3p. (And my ego likes being targeted at bad guys.)

Was I the only one who translated the appeal as an offer to shoot me? This is not a cure.


so I wanted to figure out HF without going through some language BS, and gave him the choice. During N1 I used the other part of my role (once/cycle power) on BTDT. HF was telling me he never got a choice (which threw me off), and BTDT entered with an alias, and said he wasn't HF. So halfway past D2 I used my the power I used on BTDT (once BTDT cleared himself in the QT) on HF, and here we are now

since you specifically invited BTDT to your QT, why were you confused when the dude in your QT said he wasn't HF ?


read above

I did and maybe I missed it but I don't understand. You invite BTDT to your QT: a dude enters and says he's not HF; why did that throw you of ? You should have assumed it was BTDT ?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 04 2017 17:48 GMT
#2352
On August 05 2017 02:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:42 Conversion wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:42 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:29 Conversion wrote:
and if anyone wants to know why I picked HF over rsoultin for my "choice" power:

I already have a very strong town read on rsoultin for her play on D1, but didn't for HF since he had to speak Russian soon after I became focused on the game.

also I didn't know whether to try giving the choice to them, or someone that wasn't speaking until rsoultin posted this (translated) message:


The report says that I forgot how to speak English, and I must speak Russian in a game topic until further notice.

It also says that I can speak English in QT outside the game stream, if I have it.

This suggests that there are 3p or QT, which are not bad guys QT, or maybe just give bad guys the opportunity to speak Russian.

I do not know why this would be useful for 3p. (And my ego likes being targeted at bad guys.)

Was I the only one who translated the appeal as an offer to shoot me? This is not a cure.


so I wanted to figure out HF without going through some language BS, and gave him the choice. During N1 I used the other part of my role (once/cycle power) on BTDT. HF was telling me he never got a choice (which threw me off), and BTDT entered with an alias, and said he wasn't HF. So halfway past D2 I used my the power I used on BTDT (once BTDT cleared himself in the QT) on HF, and here we are now

since you specifically invited BTDT to your QT, why were you confused when the dude in your QT said he wasn't HF ?


read above

I did and maybe I missed it but I don't understand. You invite BTDT to your QT: a dude enters and says he's not HF; why did that throw you of ? You should have assumed it was BTDT ?


until BTDT cleared himself up, I thought the blue pill did nothing and I thought HF was fucking around with me in my QT by saying he wasn't HF. Until BTDT revealed himself, I had no idea who was in my QT or if there was some mechanic that allowed people into my QT without my power, because of the assumption I made that blue pill = does nothing
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 17:50 GMT
#2353
On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.

How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ?
Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true.
Other questions:
Why did you visit cake ?
Can you answer HF ?

1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself)
2. koshi isn't a watcher role?
3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.
4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 04 2017 17:50 GMT
#2354
ok so you fed BTDT a blue pill without knowing what it did and the effect was that he entered your QT
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 17:51 GMT
#2355
On August 05 2017 02:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:42 Conversion wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:42 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:29 Conversion wrote:
and if anyone wants to know why I picked HF over rsoultin for my "choice" power:

I already have a very strong town read on rsoultin for her play on D1, but didn't for HF since he had to speak Russian soon after I became focused on the game.

also I didn't know whether to try giving the choice to them, or someone that wasn't speaking until rsoultin posted this (translated) message:


The report says that I forgot how to speak English, and I must speak Russian in a game topic until further notice.

It also says that I can speak English in QT outside the game stream, if I have it.

This suggests that there are 3p or QT, which are not bad guys QT, or maybe just give bad guys the opportunity to speak Russian.

I do not know why this would be useful for 3p. (And my ego likes being targeted at bad guys.)

Was I the only one who translated the appeal as an offer to shoot me? This is not a cure.


so I wanted to figure out HF without going through some language BS, and gave him the choice. During N1 I used the other part of my role (once/cycle power) on BTDT. HF was telling me he never got a choice (which threw me off), and BTDT entered with an alias, and said he wasn't HF. So halfway past D2 I used my the power I used on BTDT (once BTDT cleared himself in the QT) on HF, and here we are now

since you specifically invited BTDT to your QT, why were you confused when the dude in your QT said he wasn't HF ?


read above

I did and maybe I missed it but I don't understand. You invite BTDT to your QT: a dude enters and says he's not HF; why did that throw you of ? You should have assumed it was BTDT ?


She mixed up what the blue and red pill does.

One pill takes you into the QT.
The other takes you out of the QT.

She gave the opposite pill to BTDT and HF.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
August 04 2017 17:52 GMT
#2356
On August 05 2017 02:50 Rels wrote:
ok so you fed BTDT a blue pill without knowing what it did and the effect was that he entered your QT


yep. once BTDT confirmed, I did the same to HF and both entered.

Still no idea what the redpill does since HF never got a choice from me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 04 2017 17:57 GMT
#2357
On August 05 2017 02:50 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.

How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ?
Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true.
Other questions:
Why did you visit cake ?
Can you answer HF ?

1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself)
2. koshi isn't a watcher role?
3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.
4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters

1. Well if you can't explain, why do you think he's lying ? Occam razor says he said what info he had. And he didn't try to trick ruxxar => ruxxar lied and then Koshi attacked him.
2. dunno. But he said he didn't know how he got the info.
3. mm OK.
4. OK.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 04 2017 17:57 GMT
#2358
On August 05 2017 01:32 ruXxar wrote:
What if the mafia team is HF, BTDT and Conversion.

I remember last game BTDT played as scum and he made up a crazy theory to explain the night kills where the scum team had a strong arm 1 shot vigi.

Turns out he was actually telling the truth even though no one believed him.

It's possible BTDT is scum and shot copcake because he's mafia and copcake wanted to lynch him.


Copcake was a relatively easy lynch for mafia to orchestrate though. It doesn't make sense for scum to shoot to Copcake unless it's just WIFOM or something idk
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 04 2017 18:01 GMT
#2359
On August 05 2017 02:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 02:50 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:45 Rels wrote:
On August 05 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
ok. i have reread all the relevant parts. here are the possibilities:
1. koshi is scum with a different role and tried to get ruxxar lynched. does not explain why he didn't just say btdt visited cc.
2. koshi is scum with a lookout role. does not explain why he didn't see me.
3. koshi is town. does not explain why he didn't see me.

i have not ##learned about my role, but i have no reason to believe i am untrackable (i actually have a strong hunch as to what hidden information i'm missing). i don't know if koshi has with his.

How do you explain he knew BTDT visited copcake if he's faking something ?
Koshi also said he doesn't know how he got the info => so something weird happened for sure. But the info he got was true.
Other questions:
Why did you visit cake ?
Can you answer HF ?

1. i can't explain how he knew the other two, which is the tricky part. (mostly how he knew cc visited herself)
2. koshi isn't a watcher role?
3. i am a tracker. i tracked cc because i thought she might be mafia, and i saw her visit herself.
4. not atm because i'm on mobile. in about half an hour i'll be at my computer and will translate his and damdred's filters

1. Well if you can't explain, why do you think he's lying ? Occam razor says he said what info he had. And he didn't try to trick ruxxar => ruxxar lied and then Koshi attacked him.
2. dunno. But he said he didn't know how he got the info.
3. mm OK.
4. OK.

i don't really think he's lying. i was accusatory in my initial post but it doesn't make sense to me that he's totally lying.
good times for all
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 04 2017 18:04 GMT
#2360
On August 05 2017 02:57 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2017 01:32 ruXxar wrote:
What if the mafia team is HF, BTDT and Conversion.

I remember last game BTDT played as scum and he made up a crazy theory to explain the night kills where the scum team had a strong arm 1 shot vigi.

Turns out he was actually telling the truth even though no one believed him.

It's possible BTDT is scum and shot copcake because he's mafia and copcake wanted to lynch him.


Copcake was a relatively easy lynch for mafia to orchestrate though. It doesn't make sense for scum to shoot to Copcake unless it's just WIFOM or something idk


Does it make more sense to shoot rsoul, with the russian disease? I dont think so.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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